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Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?

You still have not taken the time to look up what the debt ceiling or Marxism is, have you? This helps explain your positions! :sun
 
Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?

Of course we won't. Everyone knows that when your bills exceed your savings, you can still pay them all in full!! :roll:
 
Because peoples' credit rating always goes up after they stop paying their bills :roll:

Truly, truly.

Sometimes, ya gotta wonder at the minds that think otherwise.
 
Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?

Memo to file: suggest to DP that they offer a basic political knowledge test to its prospective new members.
 
Truly, truly.

Sometimes, ya gotta wonder at the minds that think otherwise.

OK if the government should run it's business like I run mine, are they arguing I should stoppaying my bills? And it will get better for me if I do? In fact more people will want to loan me money? Damn, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

:coffeepap
 
I have no doubt. While I don't put much stock in these polls, and Jon Stewart had a lot of fun this evening with the differing polls, I think any random poll would have difficulty having exact numbers of republicnas and democrats.

But let me ask, are you suggesting democrats are not responsible? I would argue that cutting spending and rasiing taxes is the responsible thing to do.

Your news source says a lot about your perceptions.
 
Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?

Yes, of course. Raising the debt ceiling simply gives the government the authority to borrow money to pay bills it has already incurred. If the government can't raise the money to pay the bills it's already incurred, it cannot pay those bills: 1 + 1 =2.
 
Who said he was my news source?

no, you prefer the sydney morning herald

especially for SCOOPS concerning the education establishment

in new york

LOL!

where did you get your SKINNY on detroit?
 
You still have not taken the time to look up what the debt ceiling or Marxism is, have you? This helps explain your positions! :sun
Were you unable to answer my question?

Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?
 
Of course we won't. Everyone knows that when your bills exceed your savings, you can still pay them all in full!! :roll:
When your bills exceed your revenues you start cutting people. Let us begin with the extra-constitutional departments. Education has to go. Close it. Sell the furniture. Sell the buildings. It will bring in revenue and will lower the requirement for monthly outlays.
Next close the EPA. It is totalitarian. It is extra-constitutional. Repeal all of their regulations. Again, let all of the people go and sell the buildings. That will bring in even more revenue and will lower the monthly outlays. Next, close the Food And Drug Administration. Completely.

And as the investments come due pay them. NO big deal. Cut the size of the federal government by about half and the problem is solved.
 
Were you unable to answer my question?

Do you think the US will stop paying its bills if the one term Marxist president Obama does not get more tax money and the opportunity to borrow trillions more?

LOL! If we ever have a Marxist president I'll answer your questions about him or her then. So far, the US has never even had a liberal president, much less a Marxist!

:sun
 
Memo to file: suggest to DP that they offer a basic political knowledge test to its prospective new members.
I think you would need two tests. One for liberals and one for the real Americans...
It is not just a matter of politics. One requires an understanding of history, a bit of science and some problem solving abilities.

It would be interesting to see what you come up with.
 
Yes, of course. Raising the debt ceiling simply gives the government the authority to borrow money to pay bills it has already incurred. If the government can't raise the money to pay the bills it's already incurred, it cannot pay those bills: 1 + 1 =2.
Well no. It gives the government opportunities for more mischief. The government can pay its debts. It will have to reduce the size of the federal government to live within its means. I think about half of the current Czars and their departments could go and it would be a net positive for all Americans, but especially for those who are inclined to be productive.
 
OK if the government should run it's business like I run mine, are they arguing I should stoppaying my bills? And it will get better for me if I do? In fact more people will want to loan me money? Damn, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

:coffeepap

You left out the part of producing less in order to bring in less revenue.

You have a lot to learn about rightwing business mgmt
 
I think you would need two tests. One for liberals and one for the real Americans...
It is not just a matter of politics. One requires an understanding of history, a bit of science and some problem solving abilities.

It would be interesting to see what you come up with.

I think you would need two tests: one for Americans and one for that peculiar group who wants to deligitimize a large section of the country's population by labeling them not-real-Americans.
 
I think you would need two tests. One for liberals and one for the real Americans...
It is not just a matter of politics. One requires an understanding of history, a bit of science and some problem solving abilities.

It would be interesting to see what you come up with.

No, that it simply incorrect. If the debt ceiling is not raised the government will not be able to pay all its bills. The only question is who will get stiffed. Will it be private contractors who have performed work for the government? Will it be military personnel? Will it be foreign creditors? Will it be seniors? It's not a question of if, it's a question of who. A vote not to raise the debt limit is a vote not to pay bills that have already been incurred.
 
Everybody's been talking about Debt Ceiling but there is a very simple way of avoiding debt - US has so many illegal immigrants, who work here illegally thus not paying taxes and spend AMERICAN money in their countries. They get free health care, but we, citizens, still have to pay for them. If our government offered illegal immigrants greencards and work authorizations (it's at least $1000 per person), we would get a lot of money to the budget and by working legally all these immigrants would have to pay taxes etc.
 
Cutting taxs and spending is what got us here....raising taxs and cutting spending is what will get us out...BALANCED APPROACH compromise GET IT DONE
 
Cutting taxs and spending is what got us here....raising taxs and cutting spending is what will get us out...BALANCED APPROACH compromise GET IT DONE

Sounds right to me.
 
Cutting taxs and spending is what got us here

untrue

The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security. That brings to a record $61.6 trillion the total of financial promises not paid for.

Medicare alone took on $1.8 trillion in new liabilities, more than the record deficit prompting heated debate between Congress and the White House over lifting the debt ceiling.

Social Security added $1.4 trillion in obligations, partly reflecting longer life expectancies. Federal and military retirement programs added more to the financial hole, too.

U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

it's demographics

61.6T, growing by 5.3 per---there's not enough revenue conceivable

drops in oceans

if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally restructure our entitlement budgets, then our big 3 federal programs (and state and federal pensions too) will collapse

if you love medicare, if you don't want lbj's baby to die...

leadership, anyone?
 
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