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So at least you agree they were gun toting radical right wingers.
No. They weren't stupid.
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So at least you agree they were gun toting radical right wingers.
Well if Bush and Cheney did it.....obviously HusSame is going to do it.......but with great liberal rejoice this time.
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For all your "respect" for the Founders you know nothing about them. They had the same arguments then about the power of government that we are today. The Constitution itself is a compromise document. The partisan rhetoric was worse than it is now -- remember how Alexander Hamilton died? He was shot by the sitting Vice-President in a duel! Jefferson's hatred of Hamilton was strong enough that he hired someone with no foreign language skills as a State Department translator so that he could eventually install him as the editor of an anti-Federalist newspaper (So much for unbiased media. Never existed, and never will).
Try learning some history to go with your partisan hackery. It might do you some good.
I'm sorry, I couldn't be buggered to read "propaganda" passed as intelligent discourse. FYI You cannot have socialism and democracy in the same country, the two are not congruent.
If by socialism you mean the SS and Medicare programs supported by our forefathers under both parties for the last 80 years, it has worked very well with democracy in this country. In fact those programs helped create the strongest middle class in our history! :sun
LOL......oh man I havent laughed that hard in awhile. The Forefathers supported SS and Medicare......LOL......thanks.......
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For all your "respect" for the Founders you know nothing about them. They had the same arguments then about the power of government that we are today. The Constitution itself is a compromise document. The partisan rhetoric was worse than it is now -- remember how Alexander Hamilton died? He was shot by the sitting Vice-President in a duel! Jefferson's hatred of Hamilton was strong enough that he hired someone with no foreign language skills as a State Department translator so that he could eventually install him as the editor of an anti-Federalist newspaper (So much for unbiased media. Never existed, and never will).
Try learning some history to go with your partisan hackery. It might do you some good.
If by socialism you mean the SS and Medicare programs supported by our forefathers under both parties for the last 80 years, it has worked very well with democracy in this country. In fact those programs helped create the strongest middle class in our history! :sun
LOL......oh man I havent laughed that hard in awhile. The Forefathers supported SS and Medicare......LOL......thanks.......
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History points to the fact they were gun toting radical right wingers
Even in your denial you go right to Hamilton.......which only gives creedence to the fact.....for that is where Liberal's belief in the forefathers and founders begins and ends.
Intellectually, Federalists, while devoted to liberty held profoundly conservative views atuned to the American character. As Samuel Eliot Morison explained, They believed that liberty is inseparable from union, that men are essentially unequal, that vox populi [voice of the people] is seldom if ever vox Dei [the voice of God], and that sinister outside influences are busy undermining American integrity.
If they were all politically to the right, there would have been no political parties. The fracturing into parties happened while Washington was still President. But they all agreed, which is why political parties happened.
Funny since Hamilton was a Federalist, generally regarded to have been the Conservatives of the time.
Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They were usually the leading businessmen of the day, also. Sounds like pre-Tea Party Republicans actually. And probably post-Tea Party Republicans too. Trust me, once the Tea Partiers are no longer politically useful to Republicans, they'll be cast aside like yesterday's garbage.
Oh yea i forgot if its stuff you dont like or dont agree with we just throw out the word "propaganda" and play if off as all lies, but when its stuff that you like or agree with we play it off as 100% fact and truth...I'm sorry, I couldn't be buggered to read "propaganda" passed as intelligent discourse.
Uhh yes you can.... Socialism and democracy go hand in hand...FYI You cannot have socialism and democracy in the same country, the two are not congruent.
The leading businessmen of today support the Tea Party.......the most successful and intelligent among us.
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But even Hamilton, being the closest to a statist among them.....would by no means support the insane whack job Democrat Party of today.
Nonsense......for 100% agreement was as rare then as it is today.
The leading businessmen of today support the Tea Party.......the most successful and intelligent among us.
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"Now is the time for our political leaders to act," said a letter to President Barack Obama and every member of Congress that was signed by more than 450 business leaders and groups including the powerful U.S. Chamber of Commerce and a number of Fortune 500 companies.
Not true. They support raising the debt ceiling, the Tea Party favors allowing the economy to completely collapse.
He didn't support them back then either. The Democratic Party of today was Jefferson and Madison's party. And Aaron Burr, who killed him.
I'm not the one who said they were all right wingers. That was you.
U.S. Business Leaders Urge Action on Debt Ceiling
Fortune 500 companies. Nobody there knows how to run a business.
For without RW radio....the Founders and Forefathers wouldnt have known what to stand for....and against.
But not his INTENTIONS my willfully ignorant friend...........
Only because The Kenyan Tyrant isnt all the tyrant you wanted him to be..........
Of course you wanted him to snap his fingers and create a public option to nowhere.........of course you wanted him to close Club Gitmo with just a signature.......of course you wanted him to lower the seas with a wave of his hand.......of course you wanted him to raise taxes on the evil rich to 99%......
......well he did too.....but those damn seperate branches of government and The Constitution kept getting in the way.
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