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Wisconsin Governor Walker's Chief Judicial Ally Accused of Physically Attacking Juris

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apdst said:
What did they get away with, exactly?
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Well, let's see... Cheney got drunk and shot some guy in the face on a canned hunt.
Cheney's office outed an entire CIA operation as revenge against "bad press".
Cheney was receiving paychecks from Haliburton while he was the Veep. Haliburton got the lion's share of no-bid contracts when Bush & Cheney decided to invade Iraq.
Etc.
 
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Cole said:
Not really seeing any "wagons closing". If Prosser assaulted Judge Bradly he should be held accountable. And from Bradly's reputation, one would expect she would not shy away from filing charges if appropriate.

What seems more to be the case here is that the Left is so obsessed with any opportunity to proclaim guilt on Prosser that waiting for facts isn't necessary. Monday there will be an official statement released. Doesn't seem too unreasonable to me to wait for all the facts to surface. How 'bout you.....??

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There will always be conjecture in situations like this. Prosser has a history of flying off the handle so, from an outsider's viewpoint, such an attack would fit with his mistempered personality.
 
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toddwv said:
Well, let's see... Cheney got drunk and shot some guy in the face on a canned hunt.
Cheney's office outed an entire CIA operation as revenge against "bad press".
Cheney was receiving paychecks from Haliburton while he was the Veep. Haliburton got the lion's share of no-bid contracts when Bush & Cheney decided to invade Iraq.
Etc.
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I didn't know that Prosser was Dick Cheney in disguise. That explains everything. :mrgreen:
 
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toddwv said:
Well, let's see...Cheney's office outed an entire CIA operation as revenge against "bad press".
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Let's just start with this one. Do you mean V. Plame? If so why the lie? Everyone knows now that it was the liberal press' darling, Colin Powell's State Department's R. Armitage who told the secret.

In their book Hubris Isikoff and Corn reveal — as both Armitage and syndicated columnist Robert Novak acknowledged publicly later — that Armitage was Novak's "initial" and "primary source" for Novak's July 2003 column that revealed Plame's identity as a CIA operative and that after Novak revealed his "primary source" (Novak's phrase) was a "senior administration official" who was "not a partisan gunslinger," Armitage phoned Colin Powell that morning and was "in deep distress." Reportedly, Armitage told Powell: "I'm sure [Novak is] talking about me."
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Plame affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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apdst said:
Well, you already have Prosser convicted, after reading one article on the internet. Is this the Libbos version of due process?
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It seems my observation went miles over your head.

The wagons close circle to protect one of their own. The war on the working class needs warriors and if they pillage and rape occasionally, that is the price of war.

My comment was in regards to folks right here from the far right closing ranks and finding any excuse, reason or fiction to excuse Prosser. And now you prove my point in spades. Thank you.

And as far as your own post that there were no witnesses - you need to polish up on your reading skills. Go back and read the NY Times article again. There were plenty of witnesses.
 
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toddwv said:
There were witnesses. In fact, Prosser appears to have flown off the deep end...again... in front oft he entire judiciary since the incident took place during a meeting.
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Then, why were no charges filed?
 
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toddwv said:
Well, let's see... Cheney got drunk and shot some guy in the face on a canned hunt.
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It was an accident, not a crime.

Cheney's office outed an entire CIA operation as revenge against "bad press".
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That's been debunked for years. Why are you still telling that lie. It was Richard Armitage that outted Valerie Plame to Bob Novack.

Cheney was receiving paychecks from Haliburton while he was the Veep.
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It's called, "retirement".

Haliburton got the lion's share of no-bid contracts when Bush & Cheney decided to invade Iraq.
Etc.
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What other oilfield service company, in the world, had the resources to handle the Iraq job. Believe it, or not, it was going to take more than a 32 piece Craftsman socket set.
 
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haymarket said:
It seems my observation went miles over your head.

The wagons close circle to protect one of their own. The war on the working class needs warriors and if they pillage and rape occasionally, that is the price of war.

My comment was in regards to folks right here from the far right closing ranks and finding any excuse, reason or fiction to excuse Prosser. And now you prove my point in spades. Thank you.

And as far as your own post that there were no witnesses - you need to polish up on your reading skills. Go back and read the NY Times article again. There were plenty of witnesses.
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No one's making excuses. All we're saying, is that if Prosser is guilty of a crime, why were no charges filed?
 
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Misterveritis said:
Let's just start with this one. Do you mean V. Plame? If so why the lie? Everyone knows now that it was the liberal press' darling, Colin Powell's State Department's R. Armitage who told the secret.


Plame affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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And so what is that supposed to prove or disprove? So Armitage wasn't a part of the Cheney...err, I mean the Bush Administration? He wasn't in the Bush inner circle? He isn't of the same ilk as Cheney and all those other neocons?
 
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apdst said:
It was an accident, not a crime.
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Is that why the SS sequestered the Veepee so that he could "sleep it off" when the State Police came to investigate?

That's been debunked for years. Why are you still telling that lie. It was Richard Armitage that outted Valerie Plame to Bob Novack.
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So Armitage wasn't a part of the Bush Administration?

It's called, "retirement".
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Riiiight. I wasn't aware that retirees make sure that their former companies get big fat and regular paychecks in return.

What other oilfield service company, in the world, had the resources to handle the Iraq job. Believe it, or not, it was going to take more than a 32 piece Craftsman socket set.
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Probably several hundred. Why make most of their contracts no-bid? That's just a gimmee form of politically directed corporate welfare that needs to be outlawed.
 
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apdst said:
No one's making excuses. All we're saying, is that if Prosser is guilty of a crime, why were no charges filed?
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Patience is a virtue.

Does one have to rise to the level of a felony to be disgraced and seem unfit for office in your mind?
 
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toddwv said:
And so what is that supposed to prove or disprove? So Armitage wasn't a part of the Cheney...err, I mean the Bush Administration? He wasn't in the Bush inner circle? He isn't of the same ilk as Cheney and all those other neocons?
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He was the cat that outted Plame, yet he was never once questioned in the investigation.

The point being, Cheney didn't out Plame, nor did Bush, or Cheney order anyone to out Plame.

And, no, Armitage isn't of the same ilk as Cheney and Bush. Armitage hated both Bush and Cheney and openly opposed the invasion of Iraq. So, it was Armitage that outted Plame, to try and burn the Bush administration.
 
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toddwv said:
And so what is that supposed to prove or disprove? So Armitage wasn't a part of the Cheney...err, I mean the Bush Administration? He wasn't in the Bush inner circle? He isn't of the same ilk as Cheney and all those other neocons?
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No. Armitage was not part of Cheney's circle. He worked for Colin Powell. So do you dispute the fact because you are foolish? Or because you are partisan?
 
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haymarket said:
Patience is a virtue.

Does one have to rise to the level of a felony to be disgraced and seem unfit for office in your mind?
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Patience for what? For the spin to take place? Kinda like, "Cheney outted Valerie Plame"?

Oooh, oooh, I know, Joe Wilson saying: "Iraqi ministers visited Niger, but they were working on trade agreements, not trying to buy uranium". Niger has two major exports: Goats and yellow cake uranium.
 
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toddwv said:
Is that why the SS sequestered the Veepee so that he could "sleep it off" when the State Police came to investigate?
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Still, no crime. Sorry!



So Armitage wasn't a part of the Bush Administration?
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That's neither here, nor there. Cheney didn't out Valerie Plame.



Riiiight. I wasn't aware that retirees make sure that their former companies get big fat and regular paychecks in return.

Probably several hundred.
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Ok...name them for us.


Why make most of their contracts no-bid? That's just a gimmee form of politically directed corporate welfare that needs to be outlawed.
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Because it takes months for the government to bid a contract, sometimes years. There wasn't time for that. Just like after Hurricane Katrina, a no-bid contract was awarded to Shaw Global. The CEO of Shaw Global is Jim Berhard. Bernhard is a Democrat big dick in Louisiana. He and Kathy Blanco were very close friends. Was that, too, a political deal? I never heard the Libbos cry about that one.
 
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toddwv said:
And so what is that supposed to prove or disprove? So Armitage wasn't a part of the Cheney...err, I mean the Bush Administration? He wasn't in the Bush inner circle? He isn't of the same ilk as Cheney and all those other neocons?
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Actually no. Armitage was very much outside the Bush inner circle. (hence, why the Democrats and the press downplayed his role...)
 
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haymarket said:
Patience is a virtue.

Does one have to rise to the level of a felony to be disgraced and seem unfit for office in your mind?
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Uuhhh, evidence maybe.....?
 
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haymarket said:
Patience is a virtue.

Does one have to rise to the level of a felony to be disgraced and seem unfit for office in your mind?
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What about Bradley. There are witnesses saying that she started the fracus. Are you screaming for her resignation, as well?

Hit job on Prosser? « Hot Air
 
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apdst said:
Patience for what?
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Actually that would be patience for the investigation to be held and a conclusion delivered. I suspect when one is about to weigh possible criminal charges against a Supreme Court Justice in Wisconsin given the current political environment, one must dot every single i and cross every single t several times.
 
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toddwv said:
Why make most of their contracts no-bid? That's just a gimmee form of politically directed corporate welfare that needs to be outlawed.
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Sole source contracts are used for a variety of reasons. Here is what Wikipedia says:

Legal reasons for sole source contracts include [1]:
only one firm has a product that will meet the projects needs or only one firm can do the work;
the existence of an unusual and compelling urgency;
for purposes of industrial mobilization or expert services;
an international agreement;
sole source is authorized or required by law, e.g., socio-economic programs;
national security and
the public interest.
Use of such authorities requires written justification and approval at specified levels. See 48 CFR Ch. 1, Subpart 6.3.
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I have used them. Sometimes we are continuing work that was originally competitively bid. Sometimes there is only one company that has the expertise to do the work. Sometimes it does not make sense to go through the time and expense of competition for a time sensitive project that the selected company is already performing on.

I have been involved in some medium-sized IDIQ contracts (500M) where we won, along with a few other companies. Given the quality of our work compared to the others we ended up performing most of the work. The others just did not have the engineering and operational depth to come in on time, under budget with the right technology to do the mission.
 
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Cole said:
Uuhhh, evidence maybe.....?
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Ahhh! Liberals don't have time for pescky little things like...evidence. We're all supposed to just take their word for it, because they're superior to the rest of us.
 
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apdst said:
What about Bradley. There are witnesses saying that she started the fracus. Are you screaming for her resignation, as well?

Hit job on Prosser? « Hot Air
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You make her sound like the World Heavyweight Champion picking on a skinny third grader.
 
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haymarket said:
Actually that would be patience for the investigation to be held and a conclusion delivered. I suspect when one is about to weigh possible criminal charges against a Supreme Court Justice in Wisconsin given the current political environment, one must dot every single i and cross every single t several times.
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Ohhhhhhh! So, now we're going to wait for an actual investigation, before we start insisting that anyone is guilty of a crime?
 
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haymarket said:
You make her sound like the World Heavyweight Champion picking on a skinny third grader.
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A crime is a crime. She doesn't get a free pass from the law, because she's a woman.
 
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Cole said:
Actually no. Armitage was very much outside the Bush inner circle. (hence, why the Democrats and the press downplayed his role...)
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Really? Is that why he was member of the "Vulcans"? Sounds kind of strange to admit an outsider to an inner circle group like the Vulcans.
 
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