I don't agree with the Turtle on a number of issues, but I read people very well. In my dealings with him, I have found him to be an honest guy. I don't believe he is lying. And what he says is further backed up by my own real life experience:
From 1974-1975, I worked at Lear-Siegler in Grand Rapids, Michigan, troubleshooting and repairing AYN-1 and DC-130 navigational computers. The union there was the UAW, and I was a member. Union membership was required and automatic. My time at Lear-Siegler was probably the worst experience of my life, so for me, personally, I am anti-union. However, I am very much pro-union for those who want to be in a union. This is capitalism at work, workers exploiting the sweat off their brow, just as companies also exploit it. Samuel Adams, in his writings, gave the right to exploit resources to everybody, not just a select few. And for the government to attempt to stop one group of people from exploiting their own resources (the sweat from their brow) smacks of tactics used by the old Communist Bloc nations. In Poland, it was the unions who threw the Communists out of office. And don't forget that, under Communism, unions were busted down and made illegal, until the unions rose up and did their part to help defeat the Communists. But for me, personally, I don't want to be part of a union.
And what I have seen in the UAW, while I was in it, is much the same as TD was talking about. I would suggest that, instead of attacking the Turtle with inane phrases, you come up with a thought-out counter argument for what he posted. But I don't think you can, because I don't think that kind of counter arguments actually exists.
That cuts both ways.
