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AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

Yes, these new regulations will force a transition. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

No they will raise rates. It is like a tax and it will hurt the middle class the poor and the unemployed the worst. Thank you Obama for doing this in such good economic times
 
Even if global warming/climate theory change proves to be wrong, the human health cost are real.

You mean when people go hungry because they have to pay higher electric and have to get by on less food
 
Have you looked into how much space a coal plant requires?

Read my links and the acres enough turbines would take to replace a coal plant would be much more. The truth is wind turbines will never replace power plants because they are unreliable and to inefficient
 
Even if global warming/climate theory change proves to be wrong, the human health cost are real.

what was it Thomas Friedman said after the climategate scandals?

"Even if the theory is wrong, it's still important because it lets' us do what needs to be done."


want to reduce human costs in mining? let them start carving off the tops of mountain tops instead of digging down so far.
 
No. If global warming did not exist coal would still be bad. It's responsible for increases in mercury, particulates, uranium, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, and more, all really bad for us and the ecosystem.

Coal sucks.

Thank you for your honesty, “coal sucks”. This is precisely why I think warmers want to talk about warming instead of real pollution, once you decide global warming is manmade you are able to avoid real issues, real pollution that has real solutions. You can burn fossil fuels cleanly and minimize if not eliminate real pollution but if your mindset is “coal sucks” and you want it stopped period then you go to global warming propaganda. That’s the only argument you can make that would have the result of not burning fossil fuels at all as opposed to burning them clean and efficient.
 
Thank you for your honesty, “coal sucks”. This is precisely why I think warmers want to talk about warming instead of real pollution, once you decide global warming is manmade you are able to avoid real issues, real pollution that has real solutions. You can burn fossil fuels cleanly and minimize if not eliminate real pollution but if your mindset is “coal sucks” and you want it stopped period then you go to global warming propaganda. That’s the only argument you can make that would have the result of not burning fossil fuels at all as opposed to burning them clean and efficient.

Somebody didn't read the article in the op.
 
Who elected the Department of Defense?

Regarding the closing - we had an opportunity to implement a market-based approach to emissions control. This type of system was first implemented by President Reagan and it outperformed the expected costs of the "command and control" proposal from the Democrats significantly. The same type of system came up under the Obama administration, and the Republicans (and some Democrats) voted against it.

GOP shot down the market-based solution, so the EPA gave us the command and control approach because they are legally required to tackle this.

Does DoD make policy?
 
Read my links and the acres enough turbines would take to replace a coal plant would be much more. The truth is wind turbines will never replace power plants because they are unreliable and to inefficient

Simply not true.


You mean when people go hungry because they have to pay higher electric and have to get by on less food

No, I mean when you have a residential area near or down wind from a power plant people are more likely to develop lung problems and other health problems.

what was it Thomas Friedman said after the climategate scandals?

"Even if the theory is wrong, it's still important because it lets' us do what needs to be done."


want to reduce human costs in mining? let them start carving off the tops of mountain tops instead of digging down so far.

That has other problems such as poisoning water supplies. And its states that don't allow for that type of mining.
 
Simply not true.




No, I mean when you have a residential area near or down wind from a power plant people are more likely to develop lung problems and other health problems.



That has other problems such as poisoning water supplies. And its states that don't allow for that type of mining.

I give proof and you deny it without showing why it is wrong. Great credibility there
 
I give proof and you deny it without showing why it is wrong. Great credibility there

You said that wind will never replace coal. Wind has gotten better and better, theres no reason to think that batteries and wind will one day surpass coal.
 
I still think we can stop this by writing Congress people and Senators and tell them to use some on the Foreign Aid give away $25 Billion to retrofit these plants.

It's much better than any BS waste of stimulus cash we don't have. This will save jobs, local economies and keep us all from power shortages for a little while.
 
I still think we can stop this by writing Congress people and Senators and tell them to use some on the Foreign Aid give away $25 Billion to retrofit these plants.

It's much better than any BS waste of stimulus cash we don't have. This will save jobs, local economies and keep us all from power shortages for a little while.

Good idea.

You said that wind will never replace coal. Wind has gotten better and better, theres no reason to think that batteries and wind will one day surpass coal.

I meant to say that one day wind will surpass coal.
 
You said that wind will never replace coal. Wind has gotten better and better, theres no reason to think that batteries and wind will one day surpass coal.

Yes it is up to what about 3% now
 
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