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Casey Anthony Trial's Surprise

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Defense Claims Caylee Died of Accidental Drowning


Casey Anthony's murder trial began Tuesday with a stunning claim by the defense: that her 2-year-old daughter Caylee died of an accidental drowning, not murder, and her mother lied about it.

"She was never missing. She drowned in the family swimming pool," Casey's defense attorney Jose Baez told the jury in opening statements in an Orlando courtroom.

It was the first time Casey's side had presented in detail her version of events in the sensational case that started out as a gripping missing child investigation before turning to allegations of murder by the child's own mother.

Caylee had been reported missing in July 2008 and was found dead five months later, her remains lying in a wooded area less than a half mile from her Orlando home. By then, Casey, who hadn't reported Caylee's disappearance for a month, had already been arrested.

Casey's attorney acknowledged that the mother didn't tell the truth about the girl's disappearance, making up the story about a nanny who had been the last person with Caylee, but claims there was a reason.

Casey, her lawyer said, had been sexually abused by her father, accounting for her unusual behavior.

"You will hear stories about a family that is incredibly dysfunctional, you will hear about ugly things, secret things, things that people don't speak about," Baez said.

This makes me sick. I believe her defense attornies said to her: "We don't want you to tell us what happened if you don't want to Casey. But you've got to have an explanation for what happened here if we're to mount a defense. Now! What could have happened??" Or maybe they concocted it for her and asked her with a meaningful look, "Is that what happened Casey??"

Fox just said that the father was in on it and helped her with the cover-up...that her body was found by that meter man weeks before he turned it in and he was holding on to it hoping for a reward.

The animals at the zoo are on parade. It makes me positively sick.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20497142,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
 
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....none of it adds up, though.
 
Defense Claims Caylee Died of Accidental Drowning




This makes me sick. I believe her defense attornies said to her: "We don't want you to tell us what happened if you don't want to Casey. But you've got to have an explanation for what happened here if we're to mount a defense. Now! What could have happened??" Or maybe they concocted it for her and asked her with a meaningful look, "Is that what happened Casey??"

Fox just said that the father was in on it and helped her with the cover-up...that her body was found by that meter man weeks before he turned it in and he was holding on to it hoping for a reward.

The animals at the zoo are on parade. It makes me positively sick.

Casey Anthony Trial Opens with Shocking Claims : People.com

i'm disgusted by that entire family. so, her daughter accidentally drowned, and she went out and partied for a month? right......i'm sure everyone will believe her.
 
I do believe there was sex abuse by the bro. Unsure of dad. Dad was getting nooky from stranger pretending he was working. But if casey didnt like it she would have got out of there with the female daughter. Caylee didnt have boobs yet so there is no way she can claim daddy and bro were doing Caylee
 
Defence teams are clever they might just claim: "She didn't know she was partying because she climbed in a booze bottle and got into drugs to deal with the pain, and the next weeks were just a blur."
 
Evidence:

Hair of a deceased person was found in Casey's trunk, that looked similar to Cayle's hair.

Why was Caseys car impounded?



"ORLANDO, Fla (Reuters) - The manager of the Florida impound lot where Casey Anthony's car was towed two weeks after she allegedly killed her daughter testified on Friday that he detected the "very, very unique, distinctive smell" of human decomposition emanating from the vehicle."

http://centralmoinfo.com/Tow-lot-manager-says-smelled-human-decay-in-Casey-/8403947?newsId=80653




"....evidence heard yesterday was that of Simon Birch who was acting manager of the impound lot Casey Anthony’s Pontiac Sunfire was taken to when it was towed from the Amscot parking lot on June 30th, 2008. "

"George also spoke of the “basketball-sized” stain he saw on July 15th, 2008 on the trunk liner just above the spare tire compartment. George confirmed it had not been there before."


" Catherine Sanchez who was manager of the Amscot at the time Casey left the Pontiac in that parking lot. Ms. Sanchez is the person who eventually had the Pontiac towed for impoundment after it had sat in the parking lot for 3 days. The most interesting points in this testimony was that Casey’s car was backed into the parking space, in a straight manner, right next to a large dumpster that not only received nonperishable waste from the businesses in that mall, but also received putrescible food waste from at least two different restaurants or fast food chains in that mall."

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http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/05/28/caylee-anthony-case-trial-day-5-052811/


Who was Caylee's biological father?


http://www.wesh.com/r/27193611/detail.html














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It's weird how everybody describes Casey as a wonderful, loving mother....and then this weird month of bad behavior comes up immediately after her child dies. Something isn't right....are all of the witnesses wrong? Or did something else happen? I feel like everybody in the family is lying.
 
It's weird how everybody describes Casey as a wonderful, loving mother....and then this weird month of bad behavior comes up immediately after her child dies. Something isn't right....are all of the witnesses wrong? Or did something else happen? I feel like everybody in the family is lying.

Some pathological liars are very charming. Many liars make an effort to give the appearance of good character, themselves, to throw people away from suscpicions that lies are being fabricated.

One problem with telling lies habitually, is that it is easy to forget that the truth may come out, and then even look worse, than if the truth had been told in the first place.




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Some pathological liars are very charming. Many liars make an effort to give the appearance of good character, themselves, to throw people away from suscpicions that lies are being fabricated.

One problem with telling lies habitually, is that it is easy to forget that the truth may come out, and then even look worse, than if the truth had been told in the first place.




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Is there some sort of connection between being a pathological liar and having experienced some sort of traumatizing event? Would such an even also lend to sociopathic tendencies?
 
If Caylee did drown it makes absolutely no sense that caseys father an x Police Detective would even consider a coverup, he knows well all you have to do is call 911 and tell the truth. I dont believe she just drowned. Now I may be more open to casey drowned her or suffocated her and the father tried to cover it up considering he lost a granddaughter and stood to lose a daughter...but I dont think that happened either.
As far as the incest, thats a horrible claim to put on someone without proof. Ill reserve my opinion on that until its demonstrated they did that....the tapes prison visits give no indication that incest ever happened.
 
Is there some sort of connection between being a pathological liar and having experienced some sort of traumatizing event? Would such an even also lend to sociopathic tendencies?

"Abstract
Throughout history, societies have circumscribed certain forms of intimacy in the family setting. Transgression has been punished by force of ecclesiastical rules and government statutes. However, no single definition of incest is widely accepted, as the degree of kinship in which marriage is allowed and the age of consent vary. Fueled in part by the current emphasis on child abuse prevention, the reporting of incest is increasing. The perpetrator in the majority of reported cases is a male adult, and most often the victim is a young girl. Other dyads do occur and are probably under-estimated in frequency. Disturbed family relationships generate a shift in individual responsibilities and expectations that can lead to incest. A lack of spousal sexual activity is a common preceding factor. The sequelae of this breach of family integrity are significant. Frequently, the family itself is destroyed; the destruction often begins before incest occurs. The victim faces a future characterized by emotional turmoil, diminished self-esteem, impaired interpersonal relationships, and impulsive acting-out behavior. Family and individual therapy, participation in support groups, and referral for chemical dependency treatment are essential if future problems in the lives of everyone involved are to be avoided."


Incest. Its causes and repercussions. [Postgrad Med. 1989] - PubMed result


"The problem is that the provider also abuses her. These incompatible approaches cause severe neuropsychological harm to the victim. The most typical incestuous traits usually develop between a child and her parent."


Incestuous Families










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Defense Claims Caylee Died of Accidental Drowning




This makes me sick. I believe her defense attorneys said to her: "We don't want you to tell us what happened if you don't want to Casey. But you've got to have an explanation for what happened here if we're to mount a defense. Now! What could have happened??" Or maybe they concocted it for her and asked her with a meaningful look, "Is that what happened Casey??"

Fox just said that the father was in on it and helped her with the cover-up...that her body was found by that meter man weeks before he turned it in and he was holding on to it hoping for a reward.

The animals at the zoo are on parade. It makes me positively sick.

Casey Anthony Trial Opens with Shocking Claims : People.com

This is why I think that if the new testament was written today then Mathew would have been a lawyer instead of a tax collector(tax collectors were considered morally corrupt scumbags back then) and the pharmacies would have been commenting on Jesus hanging out with lawyers.
 
It's weird how everybody describes Casey as a wonderful, loving mother....and then this weird month of bad behavior comes up immediately after her child dies. Something isn't right....are all of the witnesses wrong? Or did something else happen? I feel like everybody in the family is lying.

"KENNEY BADEN: It was ruined and spoiled in a lot of ways. For instance…the most important piece of evidence that the state thought they had, which is this demonizing duct tape, was contaminated by the FBI.

A lab technician's DNA was found on the duct tape. Along with DNA belonging to an unidentified person…

KENNEY BADEN: Another party that did not belong to the FBI, did not belong to law enforcement, did not belong to Casey or any of her family members that is on that duct tape.

MACALUSO: A stranger. It was a stranger involved."


New Revelations in Caylee Anthony Murder - 48 Hours - CBS News


Jan 2009

"George was taken to Halifax around 2:30am. Daytona Beach officers Baker-acted (Baker Act details) him after he said he wanted to end his life. He was first admitted to the emergency department and was there for several hours.

“As far as I know, he cooperated with the doctors and, like I said, he’s stable as far as I know. They have the situation under control,” said Salina Wang, Halifax Medical Center."


http://broadcast.iflove.com/george-anthony-custody-hospitalized-evaluation-suicide-threat/





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"Defense attorney Dorothy Clay Sims said Caylee went swimming in the pool of one of Casey's ex-boyfriends, Tony Lazarro, on June 2, 2008 and that Casey placed her bathing suit in the trunk of her Pontiac Sunfire.


A defense witness Sims is questioning, Dr. Barry Logan, said chlorine from a pool on a bathing suit might contribute to high chloroform levels. "


"The little girl's body was found in December 2008 in a lot a short walk from the Anthony family home in east Orange County.


This afternoon, state witness and forensic botanist David Hall is testifying about plant root growth at Caylee's recovery scene.


He based his conclusions based on images in digital photos. And those conclusions gave some dating to the amount of time the remains were at the site.


Hall gas said based on the vegetation growth the remains would likely have been there for a period of months."




Casey Anthony attorney suggests chloroform in trunk came from Caylee's bathing suit



"The detection of chloroform in the trunk of the car driven by Casey Anthony, along with evidence that she researched the chemical on the Internet, does not bode well for the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony, in the opinion of investigative criminal profiler Pat Brown."

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26558...d-caylees-mom-chloroform-her-evidence-mounts/







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There is no proof this girl was killed by her mom.

Remember, innocent until proven guilty. I think the little girl drowned and the mom went into some psycological rage and paniced and tried to hide the body, etc. There is of course no doubt the little girl is dead, but there is no proof that she was killed by this woman. Hiding your own child's dead body is not murder, especially if you find the child dead somewhere.

This girl has people ready to hang her, without any substantive proof that she killed this child. Now, the best I could call it would be negligent homicide from failing to protect her at the pool, but having a dead child in your car doesn't mean you did it. All this evidence of a decomposing body in the car, so what? I don't doubt for a minute a mother puts her dead child in the trunk of her car. That STILL doesn't mean the mother did anything wrong other than failing to watch her near a pool.

Murder? Nope, negligent homicide, maybe. The duct tape and all that, could have simply been to hold the childs arms and legs together to make her easier to carry once deceased. It STILL doesn't mean this woman killed this girl. It's awful to think about, but murder is a hell of a charge for someone who might only be guilty of nothing more than disclosing the death of her daughter drowning in a pool.
 
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She may be presumed innocent until proven guilty, but her conduct is simply disgusting. Partying and telling mismatching stories while accusing her father of sexual abuse? I do think she is guilty and will be found guilty. Her actions are simply atrocious. And none of what she says really adds up.
 
Casey was upset with her mom for not being avaialble to babysit for Caylee.

" On Tuesday, a pal of the party mom testified Anthony was bitter because her mom wasn't ready to drop everything and babysit. Amy Huizenga told a Florida court that her onetime friend had a strained relationship with her parents."



"The party mom [Casey Anthony] was also pissed that she had to cancel her plans "fairly frequently" because there was no one to babysit her little girl. As the spring of 2008 wore on, Anthony was becoming ever more bitter and by late June, Caylee was had disappeared from the scene."

CRIME SCENE USA: MOM SLAMMED CASEY ANTHONY AS 'UNFIT MOTHER'


"George Anthony said. “I still believe … there’s more to this story, there’s more people involved.”

Sanders asked the couple how they think the story will end.

Cindy Anthony said that she and George will have more time to devote to their foundation once Casey’s murder trial is over next year."


Casey Anthony: Mom Cindy tells NBC that she believes Casey will come home to work on foundation – The TV Guy – Orlando Sentinel







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There is no proof this girl was killed by her mom.

Remember, innocent until proven guilty. I think the little girl drowned and the mom went into some psycological rage and paniced and tried to hide the body, etc. There is of course no doubt the little girl is dead, but there is no proof that she was killed by this woman. Hiding your own child's dead body is not murder, especially if you find the child dead somewhere.

This girl has people ready to hang her, without any substantive proof that she killed this child. Now, the best I could call it would be negligent homicide from failing to protect her at the pool, but having a dead child in your car doesn't mean you did it. All this evidence of a decomposing body in the car, so what? I don't doubt for a minute a mother puts her dead child in the trunk of her car. That STILL doesn't mean the mother did anything wrong other than failing to watch her near a pool.

Murder? Nope, negligent homicide, maybe. The duct tape and all that, could have simply been to hold the childs arms and legs together to make her easier to carry once deceased. It STILL doesn't mean this woman killed this girl. It's awful to think about, but murder is a hell of a charge for someone who might only be guilty of nothing more than disclosing the death of her daughter drowning in a pool.

I think its okay to have an opinion on this psycopath. After her daughter 'disappeared,' Casey Anthony's behavior didn't change. So far her friends have said she was happy and upbeat and doing the 'hot body' bar contest thing after her daughter was gone. Not normal. During her police interview, to a statement almost every word she uttered was a lie. Weird, pathological liar. Nothing she or her defense team says in court can be assumed an honest statement.

Casey Anthony worked at Universal Studios, she had an office there, she had been searching on her own for her missing toddler daughter, she had a boyfriend who was alive (or dead), her father abused her... Always more lies to cover up the existing lies. I think (and hope) we will see the roasting of a pig during this trial, a woman who has a vacant area behind her eyes where most people have a conscience.
 
There is no proof this girl was killed by her mom.

Remember, innocent until proven guilty. I think the little girl drowned and the mom went into some psycological rage and paniced and tried to hide the body, etc. There is of course no doubt the little girl is dead, but there is no proof that she was killed by this woman. Hiding your own child's dead body is not murder, especially if you find the child dead somewhere.

This girl has people ready to hang her, without any substantive proof that she killed this child. Now, the best I could call it would be negligent homicide from failing to protect her at the pool, but having a dead child in your car doesn't mean you did it. All this evidence of a decomposing body in the car, so what? I don't doubt for a minute a mother puts her dead child in the trunk of her car. That STILL doesn't mean the mother did anything wrong other than failing to watch her near a pool.

Murder? Nope, negligent homicide, maybe. The duct tape and all that, could have simply been to hold the childs arms and legs together to make her easier to carry once deceased. It STILL doesn't mean this woman killed this girl. It's awful to think about, but murder is a hell of a charge for someone who might only be guilty of nothing more than disclosing the death of her daughter drowning in a pool.

How do you explain the duct tape over the childs mouth if she so called drown? I have no doubt at all that Casey killed that little girl:( I do think the whole family is off and suspect that Casey's dad did sexually abuse her in her childhood. That could explain why she is such a messed up person. And Cindy? I suspect she ignored and looked over a lot.
 
"Abstract
Throughout history, societies have circumscribed certain forms of intimacy in the family setting. Transgression has been punished by force of ecclesiastical rules and government statutes. However, no single definition of incest is widely accepted, as the degree of kinship in which marriage is allowed and the age of consent vary. Fueled in part by the current emphasis on child abuse prevention, the reporting of incest is increasing. The perpetrator in the majority of reported cases is a male adult, and most often the victim is a young girl. Other dyads do occur and are probably under-estimated in frequency. Disturbed family relationships generate a shift in individual responsibilities and expectations that can lead to incest. A lack of spousal sexual activity is a common preceding factor. The sequelae of this breach of family integrity are significant. Frequently, the family itself is destroyed; the destruction often begins before incest occurs. The victim faces a future characterized by emotional turmoil, diminished self-esteem, impaired interpersonal relationships, and impulsive acting-out behavior. Family and individual therapy, participation in support groups, and referral for chemical dependency treatment are essential if future problems in the lives of everyone involved are to be avoided."


Incest. Its causes and repercussions. [Postgrad Med. 1989] - PubMed result


"The problem is that the provider also abuses her. These incompatible approaches cause severe neuropsychological harm to the victim. The most typical incestuous traits usually develop between a child and her parent."


Incestuous Families










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"Dak's research, based on the visible and other indicators of incest, positively documents that virtually every family sexually abuses its young children."

I certainly hope that no one actually takes this tripe seriously.
 
"Dak's research, based on the visible and other indicators of incest, positively documents that virtually every family sexually abuses its young children."

I certainly hope that no one actually takes this tripe seriously.


The extent of abuse in US families is difficult to ascertain, because it is generally honorable to keep family secrets.

The extent and nature of abuse to Casey Anthony may be difficult to understand, since at least Casey has been established as creative with the truth.

Should Casey be spared the death penalty if she claims she was abused, to some extent, and that she has upset feelings as a result of the abuse, that clouded her judgement as a mother?




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The extent of abuse in US families is difficult to ascertain, because it is generally honorable to keep family secrets.

The extent and nature of abuse to Casey Anthony may be difficult to understand, since at least Casey has been established as creative with the truth.

Should Casey be spared the death penalty if she claims she was abused, to some extent, and that she has upset feelings as a result of the abuse, that clouded her judgement as a mother?



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No! This bitch should die:(
 
No! This bitch should die:(

Would Casey and her family have made any decisions differently, if they could have seen the future? Would Cindy and George have offered different solutions to the dilemmas in Casey's life? What promises did George and Cindy make, or imply, over the years, at key moments, but found inconvenient, when the time came to keep the promises?

Is it rare for a single teenage mother to feel that her parents have made promises during early pregnancy, but the parents have turned out not to be nearly as available, as the parents had seemed to promise?



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But her mom admitted the ladder was up by the pool. If Casey was doing daddy, then they were both occupied that morning. Daddy walked out, saw a babyfloat and screamed at Casey blaming her for what she done. You cant tell me this seasoned detective didnt see her dead in the trunk. He said casey sped off and wouldnt let him near the trunk. The kid was missing and this seasoned detective had no clue? Get real. What about Caseys boyfriend that had chloraform (?) on his computer joking thats how you date a woman? Maybe they both killed her? That canned air is kinda funny. Prosecution isnt doing very well. Thats why so many dead and missing kids in Fla. Incompetent. plus, daddy was supposed to be looking for Caylee BUT instead he was at some hodogs house dicking her and she gave him cash to go home with. He said he had a job...
 
This trial is a toughy, for me. I remember the Menendez brothers trial seemed really cut and dry, and the O.J. Simpson trial...but this one is worrisome. Something just doesn't feel right. Maybe something will come out soon that will put it all together.
 
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