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Conservative group sues over bin Laden death photos

Honestly, I support President Obama in witholding the images of Osama bin Laden. To reiterate something a teacher of mine said that I absolutely agree with, I see this act as a very unfortunate happening and a sign of American weakness. We portray ourselves as some great world power, and yet we spend over a decade looking for one man, and when we find him, we merely kill him.

I realize that what Osama bin Laden did was cruel, and that his death is very symbolic. Nonetheless, I don't think this is something for anyone to be proud of. We shouldn't be having parties about the death Osama bin Laden any more than we did for the victims of 9/11. We should be reflecting on what we are as a nation, and take a moment to realize that there really are no positives to this.

The victims of 9/11 are dead. The man responsible for those deaths is dead. Now, the Taliban is retaliating and more innocent lives will likely be taken. Is this a good image to you? Because I certainly don't see anything positive in this.
 
ric27 said:
I'd like to know is... (with all the multiple WH/CIA versions ) there seems to be a good indication that UBL should have been brought in alive. Maybe battered (leg wound) but none the less alive
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Well ric, no matter how many times you click your magic heels and wish you were in Kansas, he's dead.
 
Tashah said:
Well ric, no matter how many times you click your magic heels and wish you were in Kansas, he's dead.
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Then, I guess, we will never know.....the rest of the story
 
Tashah said:
Not even the wife who was with him on that fatal night in Abbattabad disputes his death.

What is there to "manage" here? OBL is dead.
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OBL might be dead, but there are still some who want to create another phoney controversy.
 
theplaydrive said:
whatever helps you sleep at night
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I sleep well, I am not a parasite who demands others pay for what I want. I also don't think playing americans against americans to win elections is good for the country
 
ric27 said:
Then, I guess, we will never know.....the rest of the story
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Actually, we do. bin Laden is dead........... You know, you just reminded me of something:

 
randel said:
what is the point in showing the picture? what does it accomplish? al qaeda admits he is dead, what is there to prove?
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Because for a lot of folks it would bring closure and would satisfy the curiosity of the general public folks. It is not about proving anything it is about there are folks that wish to see these pics and with freedom of the press we should be allowed. I know he is dead but this does not quench my desire to view the pics. Color me morbid:)
 
danarhea said:
Actually, we do. bin Laden is dead........... You know, you just reminded me of something:
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You apparently don't want to get to the bottom of this. Its impossible to evade the radar for so ****ing long without the help of someone inside. Killing UBL, you eliminate any possible connection with any past government official

Someone inside was helping that scumbag
 
Sorry...not buying it...this group calling itself non-partisan is as dishonest as all the leftist sites out there that attack Beck and Fox news. They are the corrupt twin of Media Matters...just as putrid and just as corrupt. they arent seeking this info because its anyones right...they are trying to use it to launch an attack against Obama. These people ought to be flushed like the other turds.
 
Another conservative making a stink just because it's democrats in power. Do you think this group would be saying the same thing if it were Bush withholding the photos?

Playing devil's advocate though, we broadcast the footage of Saddam's relative' dead bodies for the world to see, and that was during wartime when it could have inflamed the enemy.

The choice to not do so now seems arbitrary, even though I understand the reasoning.
 
theplaydrive said:
Your question assumes that the reason for not releasing the photos has something to do with hiding. It doesn't.

That said, they will probably be "leaked" eventually.
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So...let them be leaked. I mean, if that's truly Judicial Watch's position, why put up such a fuss about releasing the photos? Just let them find their way out into the public domain and be done with it.

Now, initially I was in favor of releasing the photos of Bin Laden's death only as a way to dispel rumors that his dealth was somehow faked. But since OBL's 4th wife, Al Quada and the Pakistan government all came out and said the man is in fact dead, I really don't see the need to provide visual proof. The testimony of the one person who was at the scene who witnessed his dealth - wife #4 - is good enough for me. But having Al Quada and the Pakistan government both substantiate her testimony seals it for me.
 
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Objective Voice said:
So...let them be leaked. I mean, if that's truly Judicial Watch's position, why put up such a fuss about releasing the photos? Just let them find their way out into the public domain and be done with it.

Now, initially I was in favor of releasing the photos of Bin Laden's death only as a way to dispel rumors that his dealth was somehow faked. But since OBL's 4th wife, Al Quada and the Pakistan government all came out and said the man is in fact dead, I really don't see the need to provide visual proof. The testimony of the one person who was at the scene who witnessed his dealth - wife #4 - is good enough for me. But having Al Quada and the Pakistan government both substantiate her testimony seals it for me.
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I think people just need something to bitch about, but letting Republican groups call for the release of pictures seems like a good strategy to me. If they somehow force the government to release them and then something bad happens, it's all on the Republicans and Obama looks like the rational one. It's a win-win for the Obama administration.
 
theplaydrive said:
I think people just need something to bitch about, but letting Republican groups call for the release of pictures seems like a good strategy to me. If they somehow force the government to release them and then something bad happens, it's all on the Republicans and Obama looks like the rational one. It's a win-win for the Obama administration.
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Obama wins if people die at the hands of terrorists??
 
ric27 said:
Why not? Whats to hide?

Everything was done by the book, right?
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That's the point. We don't want potential enemy's seeing Seal Team deployment techniques. So, the video is absolutely a national security issue.

As far as the death photo - we are better than them. We don't need to post our kill trophies all over the internet.

These are barbarians we are fighting, zealots, and mentally unstable individuals. If cops take down a black gang-banger who has some following in neighborhoods, they don't go posting his death photo on the news. That's what makes us better.
 
Temporal said:
Another conservative making a stink just because it's democrats in power. Do you think this group would be saying the same thing if it were Bush withholding the photos?

Playing devil's advocate though, we broadcast the footage of Saddam's relative' dead bodies for the world to see, and that was during wartime when it could have inflamed the enemy.

The choice to not do so now seems arbitrary, even though I understand the reasoning.
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No if Bush had been in power when Osama Bin Rotting was terminated with extreme prejudice it would be a lot more libs whining that the scumbag didn't get a fair trial- like some libs and some ODS sufferers on the right are saying. I expect the left would have been howling about international law a bit more since that tends to be the refuge of the left rather than American-Primacy rightwingers like me.

of course most of us Republicans are glad that the cockroach got squashed and commend BHO for giving the order (most likely to a conservative leaning operative) to boot the boot down on the bug
 
TheGreatSandeno said:
These people will also be the first ones to cry "woe is me" when innocent American civilians die because of a terrorist attack.
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Probably the same people who block media photos of US troops being killed during US interventions. Neither provides the spin they're after.
 
I can actually say i agree with the conservatives suing over this.
We are the public we have a right to see this....
 
These are the same people that slow down traffic and 'rubber-neck' when the accident is on the other side of the freeway. I always hope they get to see a severed head on the pavement. I think that that would finally make them happy.
 
hazlnut said:
That's the point. We don't want potential enemy's seeing Seal Team deployment techniques. So, the video is absolutely a national security issue.

As far as the death photo - we are better than them. We don't need to post our kill trophies all over the internet.

These are barbarians we are fighting, zealots, and mentally unstable individuals. If cops take down a black gang-banger who has some following in neighborhoods, they don't go posting his death photo on the news. That's what makes us better.
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There aren't too many secrets about the individual movement techniques that the team used.
 
apdst said:
--snip-- Obama would have let him have his Miranda Rights and allowed him to lawyer up on the taxpayers's dime and it would have been a complete circus.
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Remind me who was the person that approved this mission and how it ended up? Was the main purpose to capture or kill?

If you can answer that honestly, you'll see why your statement reveals only your dislike.
 
If OBL didn't move, attorneys and interrogators were waiting.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Remind me who was the person that approved this mission and how it ended up? Was the main purpose to capture or kill?

If you can answer that honestly, you'll see why your statement reveals only your dislike.
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None of use know exactly what orders the assault team were given by the president.

That being said, Obama had a team of lawyers awaiting UBL, in the event of his capture. If he didn't intend to allow him to lawyer up, why have a team of lawyers awaiting UBL, on the boat when the team RTB'ed?

U.S. Had Lawyers Ready for Bin Laden

If you can answer honestly, you'll see why you're nothing but another Obama desciple.
 
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