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AP-GfK poll: Obama approval hits 60 percent

approval ratings are usually nonsense, and the public mind is fickle. Kill a terrorist, your ratings go up by 10 points. Price of gas goes up, you get crucified, even if you don't control gas prices.
 
StillBallin75 said:
approval ratings are usually nonsense, and the public mind is fickle. Kill a terrorist, your ratings go up by 10 points. Price of gas goes up, you get crucified, even if you don't control gas prices.
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Wasn't there a tsunami or something in japan some time ago? I can't seem to remember. :ssst:
 
Councilman said:
I find that Rassmussen does the best, most accurate, least partisan polling.
Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere
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I basically go by Rasmussen and Gallup also...they make their living strictly on polling and cant afford to give the impression they are totally skewed to one side.
UsaToday seems to run some decently accurate polls also, they usually work coupled with another news org.

Having said all that, I dont believe for one second Obama is anywhere near 60%
 
How much overall boost did President Obama get from the capture of Osama Bin Laden? None, according to an exclusive Newsweek / Daily Beast poll encompassing 1,200 American adults, conducted in the two days immediately before the president’s Sunday announcement about the terrorist leader, and then the two days immediately after.

Specifically, Americans like the way he handled the situation, giving him strong results in strength and decision-making (55 percent now term him a strong leader overall, and 63 percent do so in the area of terrorism). Yet he did not get any overall bump in terms of approval rating, or electoral support. His approval rate was unchanged—48 approve, 49 disapprove, both before and after. There was also no statistical change in whether Obama deserves reelection—40/48 before, 39/49 after.

The clear reason: It's the economy, stupid. Even after Bin Laden’s death, only 30 percent think the country is on the right track, and only 27 percent think the economy is on the right track. Respondents disapprove of President Obama's handling of the economy by a margin of 56 percent to 39 percent.
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Obama Approval Numbers After Bin Laden Kill - The Daily Beast
 
The latest numbers from Quinnipiac University show a six-point jump in Obama's approval rating. Fifty-two percent of voters approve of the job Obama is doing, compared to 40 percent who disapprove. That's up from the 46 percent approval Quinnipiac measured for the president prior to bin Laden's death.

But on the economy — the issue Republicans are betting will be his undoing in 2012 — Obama's numbers saw no spike.

Just 38 percent of voters approve of the president's handling of the economy, while 57 percent disapprove. In a Q-poll out last week, 37 percent approved, compared to 57 who disapproved.

In the latest CBS/New York Times poll, Obama's approval jumped 11 points to 57 percent. Still, that poll found his handling of the economy had reached an all-time low, with just 34 percent of Americans approving.

A Washington Post/Pew Research poll released earlier this week gave Obama a nine-point approval jump, but showed no real movement on the economy. Forty-two percent of voters approved of Obama's handling of the economy — up just two points from April.
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Poll: Obama gets slight bump, but not on economy - The Hill's Ballot Box
 
 
Whovian said:
You don't think a 17% skew in the Dems favor is a little out of the ordinary?

How very... liberal of you.

If someone posted a poll skewed in the GOPs favor, you'd be all over them like white on rice, claiming either the poll doesnt matter or the poll was unfairly slanted in the GOP's favor.
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It is also explained in the link Rev provided. Reading is fundamental.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You inferred it, if you can't see it, I can't help you.
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So basically you believe it because you want that I said it. Sorry Rev, but this is more fail.




So wait, is he whining, or are you giving him credit?
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Where my words that complicated you could not follow them. He tried to spin the poll, but was too honest to do a good job of it.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Another thought on this. I wouldn't be suprised to see obama at 60/70/ even 80% over the bin laden issue, but the fact, that this poll skewed to a heavy democrat sample means its crap, and crap that should have been thrown out in order to get a more realistic sample.

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Despite the fact that the source you provided offered a possible explanation for that. Did you not read the whole story you linked, or are you just ignoring the inconvenient parts?
 
If you poll the right people, Charles Manson could get a 60 percent approval rating. LOL
 
Fact: poll sampled a heavily skewed group of people in favor of democrats.


A responsible polling agency, would have thrown it out and tried again. Look at the RCP link, one of those polls is not like the others..... Which one if you had to take 3 would you choose? One is an anomaly....


Believe what you want dude, It's really not something to get snotty over. :shrug:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Another thought on this. I wouldn't be suprised to see obama at 60/70/ even 80% over the bin laden issue, but the fact, that this poll skewed to a heavy democrat sample means its crap, and crap that should have been thrown out in order to get a more realistic sample.

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ReverendHellh0und said:
I am not suprised by this at all. Many of us have been saying this for a while. It seems that we are spinning wheels here with this oil spill. I am particularly disturbed by bubs thread where we could have been a month into building the berms that a ducth company says could be done in 4 months not 9. /facepalm
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ReverendHellh0und said:
More Americans are according to this poll, "Conservative", that is more so than liberal, an even moreso than "moderate".....


Is this in your opinion a backlash to Obama's seemingly failure after failure, or do you think it has more to do with the reflection that this country is indeed. Center-right?

What say you.
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...poll-public-losing-trust-president-obama.html

You can be such a blatant hypocrite sometimes. There are over 200+ posts of yours slamming Obama because of low poll ratings. Now all of the sudden polls are for sheep? Hahah Oh Reverend.
 
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Hatuey said:
You can be such a blatant hypocrite sometimes. There are over 400+ posts of yours slamming Obama because of low poll ratings. Now all of the sudden polls are for sheep? Hahah Oh Reverend.
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polls with a 17 point advantage for one side or the other (as in, polling 17% more Democrats than Republicans, or visa versa) are for sheep.
 
 
Hatuey said:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...poll-public-losing-trust-president-obama.html

You can be such a blatant hypocrite sometimes. There are over 200+ posts of yours slamming Obama because of low poll ratings. Now all of the sudden polls are for sheep? Hahah Oh Reverend.
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Name calling? Really now....


This in a christie thread.
ReverendHellh0und said:
Polls are for sheep. You can get a pol to say whatever you want.
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There is on example. Show me an example where I ever defended a poll, Have I used them in debate sure., but I will always admit they can be used for whatever one wants.

Prove me wrong. :shrug:



BTW: 2009 called, they want thier link back. :lamo
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Fact: poll sampled a heavily skewed group of people in favor of democrats.


A responsible polling agency, would have thrown it out and tried again. Look at the RCP link, one of those polls is not like the others..... Which one if you had to take 3 would you choose? One is an anomaly....


Believe what you want dude, It's really not something to get snotty over. :shrug:
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So to you a responsible polling agency is one that throws out results until they get the ones they want? Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology, and you continue to ignore the comments in your very own source that explain why the results could be what they are.

Combine that with saying polls are for sheep when you have created threads based on polls yourself just makes this all laughable.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Selective searching on my posts makes you look dishonest. I have long maintained polls can be skewed in favor of whatever outcome one wishes. But don't let that stop you from getting snotty with me. :shrug:
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That was not a "selective search". It also proves that polls are only for sheep, except when you use them.
 
StillBallin75 said:
yeah, if your sample size = serial killer worshippers.
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Bottom line, this poll proves without a shadow of a doubt how screwy these things can be. His overall approval rating is no where close to that mark. It's hard to walk outside and find someone who supports him. Very hard.
 
Erod said:
Bottom line, this poll proves without a shadow of a doubt how screwy these things can be. His overall approval rating is no where close to that mark. It's hard to walk outside and find someone who supports him. Very hard.
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That may be true for you, but not all of us live in North Texas.

My beef with approval ratings is that "approve" vs. "disapprove" are such general and inaccurate terms. How bout "I think he is doing a mediocre job"? Where is that option?
 
Redress said:
So to you a responsible polling agency is one that throws out results until they get the ones they want?
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I believe you are smarter than that, but I will explain anyway. If you get an anomoly, such as a higher percentage of one group in your sample, than you or your peer get, perhaps the poll is innaccurate.


Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology, and you continue to ignore the comments in your very own source that explain why the results could be what they are.
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Perhaps it's because I don't discount that possibility, however it's not the only one, but that sure is a good reason for you to hone in on one small portion to attack me personally.


Combine that with saying polls are for sheep when you have created threads based on polls yourself just makes this all laughable.
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Wow, again, show me where I have ever denied that polls could be used for whatever position one holds. Stop lying redress, it's getting rather pathetic.
 
Redress said:
Your only complaint so far is with the results of the poll, not at all with the methodology...
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mine, as I stated above, is the methodology. Polling too heavily on one side or the other will naturally slant the results in favor of that side.
 
Redress said:
That was not a "selective search". It also proves that polls are only for sheep, except when you use them.
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really redress, anything else you want to talk about me on, I mean really this thread is on an obama poll but searching my posts selectivley for a "gotcha" attack is really helping this thread along.
 
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