Boo Radley
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where the scum in the VPC fail is how they frame the issue
they assume that the only beneficial use of a gun is "shooting" a criminal" and they compare accidental shootings with shooting criminals. they also count a battered wife shooting an assaulting spouse as "someone close to you" but the fact remains. the vast majority of useful instances of a gun saving some one does NOT INVOLVE shooting the criminal
If someone breaks into my house and I detain him at gun point or even scare him off the gun has protected me but the VPC asswipes don't count that. In the VAST MAJORITY OF CASES, a deterrence is not reported by the police as a "gun incident
the fact is almost every retired cop, DA and Judge owns a gun ought to tell you something
One, that isn't the issue in question. In question was who statisitically is more likely to be shot. More often, in actual shootings, we shoot ourselves.
Second, we have no real way to know about prevented crimes. A number, how big or small is debatable, are prevent by people without guns. But any study that can be seen as facutal would require more than just asking gun owners. I'm quite sure my dogs discourage crime, but any thing I say would be subject to question and not something that can be seen as statistical proof.