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Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday

Obama has something against him and that is his record of screw ups and I don't think that he can defend his stupidity, inefficiency, and ineptness. WE need a LEADER for change not a sleazy old politician who pretends to be somebody that he is not. If Obama is highly intelligent like some people think I have no idea why he hasn't applied it to his work. Actions mean more than words. That's my honest opinion.

Agreed that Obama is smart enough, and thereby missed his chance to be a good president.
his problem is he is self serving, just watching the little coming down the airplane steps strut he has developed tells you he is enjoying the journey instead of looking for the end game.
By running and certainly winning the office one has to forget the journey, no time to enjoy it, thats not your right to. You gave yourself to serve..
but he cant help himself, the fact that he hasnt fallen completly on his face yet is only due to his intellect. he's that smart.

But he never had any intention of leading this great country anywhere, he had a free pass in his pocket form the beginning, from blaming Bush to having an entire race of people steadfastly following him like he is some sort of messiah that enabled them to tell thier children "see son, you can be anything you want".
he coupled that with the youth of America's never ending quest for "this is not my fathers America, its ours" and rode it to the dance.

now that hes there I'm afraid he has been exposed..
the middle just needs a viable candidate and this phony is one and out.
But with the power of the media its quite possible he will get 8 years.. I'm just not sure this country can afford 5 more of what we have seen so far.
 
Newt Gingrich to launch presidential bid Wednesday - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2010 Election - USATODAY.com

But he didn't wait. He announced today, May 9th, 2011.

Former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich has announced that he will be seeking the Republican nomination for U.S. president in 2012. Gingrich’s plans were made public via Facebook and Twitter Monday, where he also asked supporters to tune into his Fox News interview with Sean Hannity on Wednesday night.

Oh...Newt...Back when he was relevant, I got my first cell phone and Whitney Houston wasn't a crack-whore.
 
Agreed that Obama is smart enough, and thereby missed his chance to be a good president.
his problem is he is self serving, just watching the little coming down the airplane steps strut he has developed tells you he is enjoying the journey instead of looking for the end game.
By running and certainly winning the office one has to forget the journey, no time to enjoy it, thats not your right to. You gave yourself to serve..
but he cant help himself, the fact that he hasnt fallen completly on his face yet is only due to his intellect. he's that smart.

But he never had any intention of leading this great country anywhere, he had a free pass in his pocket form the beginning, from blaming Bush to having an entire race of people steadfastly following him like he is some sort of messiah that enabled them to tell thier children "see son, you can be anything you want".
he coupled that with the youth of America's never ending quest for "this is not my fathers America, its ours" and rode it to the dance.

now that hes there I'm afraid he has been exposed..
the middle just needs a viable candidate and this phony is one and out.
But with the power of the media its quite possible he will get 8 years.. I'm just not sure this country can afford 5 more of what we have seen so far.

I do agree with everything you said and the main stream media will try to beat and disgrace every WHITE opponent and accuse them of prejudice, the only one who can't be accused of will be Cain since he is black, the others are not even moving targets, the main stream media will attack them fiercely, mark my words.
Good 'ol mainstream media.
 
He hasn't cleaned up anything, Helloooooo.... He spent trillions and bankrupted this country, why do you think he lost congress if he had "cleaned up" anything??? and the people is going to speak up again in this coming election and get him out. Anybody can't be any worse than him.

He prevented another Great Depression that we were spiraling towards when he took office. He reduced unemployment, he increased the stock market gains, he increased the GDP, he saved two of the country's largest carmakers and the millions of people that depend on them for jobs, he passed the most significant health care reform in a half century, he has done more to cut CO2 emissions than any president in history, he has invested more in alternative energy, including nuclear power, than any president in history, and he orded the death of Bin Laden, something the last administration couldn't do in 2 full terms! Those are highlights of just some of his accomplishments!

:sun
 
Gingrich is a political genius, with excellent ideas, but that won't save him from the personal baggage he carries with him. Obama would eat him alive. The GOP needs a better player in the game.

Great thing to say, except they have no front players, no one on the bench and a very, very weak farm system. The Repubs best use of money is to punt the presidency, as they have no shot, and spend their money on congress, particularly the Senate.
 
He hasn't cleaned up anything, Helloooooo.... He spent trillions and bankrupted this country, why do you think he lost congress if he had "cleaned up" anything??? and the people is going to speak up again in this coming election and get him out. Anybody can't be any worse than him.

Yes, our education system is failing.
 
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He prevented another Great Depression that we were spiraling towards when he took office. He reduced unemployment, he increased the stock market gains, he increased the GDP, he saved two of the country's largest carmakers and the millions of people that depend on them for jobs, he passed the most significant health care reform in a half century, he has done more to cut CO2 emissions than any president in history, he has invested more in alternative energy, including nuclear power, than any president in history, and he orded the death of Bin Laden, something the last administration couldn't do in 2 full terms! Those are highlights of just some of his accomplishments!

:sun

I feel very kind today and I will give you a break on all the mentioned points that you made except for the point about reducing unemployment. He spent a trillion on that and pledged that with the trillion the job rate would be reduced to 8%. The unemployment rate is 9%. The ObamaCare will cost us money instead of saving and that's why 70% of the people are against it. Obama's ratings were in the low 40's and the Bin Laden killing saved him (for now) even though it took him 16 Hrs. to make up his mind about killing Bin Laden. I can keep on and on but you love Obama and nobody can change your mind, it's like telling a guy who is blindly in love that his girl is no good but he thinks that his girl can do no wrong, so keep on thinking that Obama is the best president we ever had if this keeps you happy and keep on wearing those rose color eye glasses.

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I feel very kind today and I will give you a break on all the mentioned points that you made except for the point about reducing unemployment. He spent a trillion on that and pledged that with the trillion the job rate would be reduced to 8%. The unemployment rate is 9%.

No one expected the Bush recession to be as bad as it was.........hell, McCain wasn't even aware we were in a recession during his campaign. Yet, even with the serverity of the Bush recession, Obama has reversed the Bush unemployment trend:

liberal-total-private-jobs-worldview-april-data.jpg

http://reflectionsofarationalrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/liberal-total-private-jobs-worldview-april-data.jpg


The ObamaCare will cost us money instead of saving and that's why 70% of the people are against it.

Health care reform reduces the deficit over 10 years and a majority do no want it cut.

"A new Post poll shows that 50 percent of those surveyed oppose the "Obamacare" law, while 45 percent support it. But these numbers are misleading, since The Post reports that "a quarter of those who oppose the health-care law say the legislation is faulty because it did not go far enough, not because it pushed change too far."

In other words, one-fourth of the law's opponents believe it should have been more ambitious and far-reaching, not less so. These are people who would have liked to see single-payer universal care, or tighter regulation of insurance companies, or less restrictive language on abortion rights -- hardly positions that John Boehner and Eric Cantor would endorse. By counting them among opponents of the law, Republicans are essentially arguing that Michael Moore is on their side.

Subtracting these dyed-in-the-wool progressives from the "anti-" column leaves just 37.5 percent opposed to the health-care law. Putting the Moore crowd in the "pro-" column, where ideologically it belongs, means that 57.5 percent of Americans support what Republicans deride as a "big government takeover of health care."
PostPartisan - Americans don't want health-care repeal


Obama's ratings were in the low 40's and the Bin Laden killing saved him (for now) even though it took him 16 Hrs. to make up his mind about killing Bin Laden.

Better than the 8 years that Bush couldn't make up his mind.

I can keep on and on but you love Obama and nobody can change your mind, it's like telling a guy who is blindly in love that his girl is no good but he thinks that his girl can do no wrong, so keep on thinking that Obama is the best president we ever had if this keeps you happy and keep on wearing those rose color eye glasses.

More of your unsubstantiated opinions will carry the same weight your unsubstantiated opinions above carry, nothing. There is much I disagree with Obama about - the continuation of the Bush wars, excessive military spending, and the continuation of the tax cuts being the biggies. If there had been a liberal candidate with a chance to win in 08 I would have never have voted for Obama. He was simply the less of the evils running. Same for this election, if we get a liberal candidate with a chance of winning, Obama is history as far as I am concerned.
 
vote obama, 2012!

there's no more liberal candidate!
 
I couldn't give a rat's ass about which party the next President belongs to. I'm only hoping that whomever it is can at least start to get us out of many of the messes we are in right now. Granted, that is an unrealistic expectation considering that we are talking about politicians here, who obviously have their own partisan interests in mind rather than the interests of the greater good of the American people. So, realistically? I think we are screwed either way.
 
I feel that Newt is out of his element now. The GOP has shifted too far right for him and being a centrist gets one nowhere now days. I do feel with Mitch Daniels perhaps now not running, Newt would be the best for the GOP, yet I applaud their support of candidates who will make Obama's re-election as easy as Clinton's run against Dole.
 
No one expected the Bush recession to be as bad as it was.........hell, McCain wasn't even aware we were in a recession during his campaign. Yet, even with the serverity of the Bush recession, Obama has reversed the Bush unemployment trend:

liberal-total-private-jobs-worldview-april-data.jpg

http://reflectionsofarationalrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/liberal-total-private-jobs-worldview-april-data.jpg

I see you're spreading the cherry picking around in the forum. Lets point out the other info in the source you use to get this graph.


The bad news is that the seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate actually ticked up in April from a whopping 8.8% to an even worse 9.0%. This number is 1.7 percentage points worse than President Bush’s last full month in office in December 2008.

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Both the Bush and Obama presidencies have been marked by a steady decline in the labor force participation rate. The labor force participation rate measures the number of people in the labor force as a percentage of the total working-age population.

bush-vs-obama-labor-force-participation-rate-april-data.jpg


For every job that the private sector created under George W. Bush, the private sector eliminated ~21 jobs under Barack Obama

But...don't mind me. Continue to cherry pick individual graphics and cross your fingers that people don't want to see the information surrounding it. I'm sure it'll help for future arguments.

The Economy wasn't great, but wasn't horrible under Bush. It was actually running rather well for the large portion of his Presidency. It was definitely going through a bad section at the end however, that can't be disputed. In some ways it has improved under Obama, in other ways it has continued to worsen such as the total amount of people out of work and the actual unemployment rate. Its ridiculous and illogical to attribute every positive sign in the economy to action done by Obama yet every negative sign in the economy to something done by Bush.
 
But...don't mind me. Continue to cherry pick individual graphics and cross your fingers that people don't want to see the information surrounding it. I'm sure it'll help for future arguments.

The Economy wasn't great, but wasn't horrible under Bush. It was actually running rather well for the large portion of his Presidency. It was definitely going through a bad section at the end however, that can't be disputed. In some ways it has improved under Obama, in other ways it has continued to worsen such as the total amount of people out of work and the actual unemployment rate. Its ridiculous and illogical to attribute every positive sign in the economy to action done by Obama yet every negative sign in the economy to something done by Bush.


I was not attempting to cherry pick, I was showing the trend that shows we are recovering from the recession, which we are. I had no expectations for Obama to fix everything in his first term. I am just grateful we avoided another Great Depression!

"The 2010 Joint Economic Report makes clear that the economy has a long road to tread before it fully heals, and that continuing to enact targeted, cost-effective policies will push the economy along and reduce the likelihood that it falls into an abyss. Key findings from the first half of 2010 include a rebound by manufacturers — which had reduced their payrolls substantially during the Great Recession — but in 2010 registered the largest six-month gain in employment since 1998."
Press Releases - Press - U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee
 
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Today's 'progressive thinker" has their ideology largely based in Marxism, which is hardly 'progressive' at all.

That would be Marxism, as defined by the far right, as the progressive tax system and social safety nets instituted and supported for the last 3/4 of a century by our Marxist forefathers.

LOL! Our forefathers were Marxist, Got it! :sun
 
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Are you under the impression that people will think you are clever for misrepresenting what someone says by changing their quote as you did mine?

Kinda a sign of desperation. "I can't make a legitimate point, so I will lie, even though it will be obvious."
 
I was not attempting to cherry pick, I was showing the trend that shows we are recovering from the recession, which we are. I had no expectations for Obama to fix everything in his first term. I am just grateful we avoided another Great Depression!

Except you are cherry picking. You pick the one poll that graph that shows good news (job creation) and act like that's the entire story, while ignoring the other two graphs showing bad news with rising unemployment and a lowering percentage of people in the workforce.
 
Except you are cherry picking. You pick the one poll that graph that shows good news (job creation) and act like that's the entire story, while ignoring the other two graphs showing bad news with rising unemployment and a lowering percentage of people in the workforce.

Sir, I gotta ask. If a conservative had shown the two and left the one out - would you call him on the cherry picking?
 
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