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Schools may ban chocolate milk over added sugar

DiAnna said:
One reason child obesity has skyrocked in the past couple of decades? Computer games and the internet.
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So are you saying we need a government program to correct this? Seems we need a government program to do everything else.

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Krhazy said:
I sense a little bit of a contradiction in some of the views expressed in this thread with those expressed in others.

Why isn't a school's offering of unhealthy alternatives seen by conservative/libertarians as a waste of the taxpayer money? Shouldn't there just be one or maybe two healthy choices, and the parents can provide additional alternatives if they choose to?

Should schools limit their offerings to one or two unhealthy alternatives? Why should schools give students entitlements to unhealthy foods?
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<- This libertarian thinks it's a waste of money.
If we are going to spend so much on schools, in general, then the money should go towards more expensive but healthier lunches.

Being completely practical about it.
 
Your Star said:
I know school lunches are unhealthy at the moment. My mom has been a lunch lady for over a decade, and know all about this stuff,(for Georgia at least) I never claimed they were healthy, I am advocating for them to serve only healthy food, and teach students to make healthy choices outside of school. And I think the government could do that the best. Also we should provide breakfast, and lunch to all students who can't afford to pay the amount it cost to buy them.
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In Georgia, school lunch involves fries on almost all levels. :lol:
 
BmanMcfly said:
- Banning Brown Bagging: Chicago School Cracks Down on Homemade Lunches - TIME NewsFeed
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- New Mexico school bans club meetings after gay club formed - Yahoo! News

How far does it have to get before you realize there's a problem???

- Should they have to go through security like at an airport? (oops, too late in many areas)
- Should they have to get their thumb print recorded for lunch? (Concern over thumbprint reader at Cressex Community School in High Wycombe (From Bucks Free Press))

So, send the kids to a public school where they are effectively treated like prisoners... OR a person could pay the exorbitant fees involved with private schooling... OR can have one parent give up their career for homeschooling (which is also becoming more and more difficult through regulation...)
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Then send your kids to another school or take it to the school board.
There are other choices.
 
Kali said:
So do you drink white milk? If so? I hope you drink it right from the cow:lamo
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Look at the ingredients of chocolate milk and then get back to me.

And no, I don't drink white milk either.
 
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but plain milk is a lot cheaper than flavoured milk, so this will save schools, and thus taxpayers, money.
 
spud_meister said:
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but plain milk is a lot cheaper than flavoured milk, so this will save schools, and thus taxpayers, money.
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Perhaps we should give the kids a bag of raw carrots, 4 ounces of unseasoned (no salt) boiled meat, and frozen water for dessert.

That would save a lot of money and be healthier too. Perhaps we can drop the meat and frozen water.

I'd go further and drop the carrots.

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zimmer said:
Perhaps we should give the kids a bag of raw carrots, 4 ounces of unseasoned (no salt) boiled meat, and frozen water for dessert.

That would save a lot of money and be healthier too. Perhaps we can drop the meat and frozen water.

I'd go further and drop the carrots.

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:lol: Wow, so much for conservatives wanting to cut spending on non-essentials, or can't kids survive without flavoured milk?
 
Remember the days when it was all about providing kids what they wanted to eat in schools?

Me neither. :(
 
spud_meister said:
:lol: Wow, so much for conservatives wanting to cut spending on non-essentials, or can't kids survive without flavoured milk?
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It's not even really about the chocolate milk, it's about the precedence that the schools, to the extent that they are regulated by the government, are pushing the precedences concerning the control over what foods you can feed your kids.

Yes, there IS a factor of many parents giving bad options for their kids, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE should lose control over that right.
 
BmanMcfly said:
It's not even really about the chocolate milk, it's about the precedence that the schools, to the extent that they are regulated by the government, are pushing the precedences concerning the control over what foods you can feed your kids.

Yes, there IS a factor of many parents giving bad options for their kids, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE should lose control over that right.
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I don't support the existence of government schools in the first place, but if we are to have them, then they should provide the healthiest food.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I don't support the existence of government schools in the first place, but if we are to have them, then they should provide the healthiest food.
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Why shouldn't they just provide what the kids want?
 
spud_meister said:
:lol: Wow, so much for conservatives wanting to cut spending on non-essentials, or can't kids survive without flavoured milk?
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I think I explained it earlier, and yes, my stances are contradictory but they deal with two separate sets of circumstances.

1. I don't like schools dictating what kids can or cannot ingest so long as the substance is legal.

2. I don't want government in the restaurant business. For multiple reasons listed previously.

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Henrin said:
Why shouldn't they just provide what the kids want?
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Then they would have pizza and beer everyday, with a side of weed.
That's what I would of wanted in high school. ;)

Seriously though, teaching kids that "you get everything you want" isn't a good thing.
Because when they become adults, they will find out incredibly fast that it isn't true but it will annoy other adults (like me), that they think they should get "everything they want."
 
BmanMcfly said:
It's not even really about the chocolate milk, it's about the precedence that the schools, to the extent that they are regulated by the government, are pushing the precedences concerning the control over what foods you can feed your kids.

Yes, there IS a factor of many parents giving bad options for their kids, but that doesn't mean that EVERYONE should lose control over that right.
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But can you extend that argument to kids behaviour, clothing, or study habits? These things are regulated by schools already, and plus healthy food boosts your ability to concentrate compared to sugary foods, so there's also the argument that this could help kids grades.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
That sucks. :(
Nothing better than hot fresh coffee, with some good ole 2% milk, to cool it down.
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Having a cup now, but with 3.5%... and a chunk of cake. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... hope Bloomberg doesn't read this thread... he might get some ideas about sugar after the salt idiocy.

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Harry Guerrilla said:
Then they would have pizza and beer everyday, with a side of weed.
That's what I would of wanted in high school. ;)

Seriously though, teaching kids that "you get everything you want" isn't a good thing.
Because when they become adults, they will find out incredibly fast that it isn't true but it will annoy other adults (like me), that they think they should get "everything they want."
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Couldn't you just say that the regular dishes go before desert? You know, direct the kids to main line, and not the secondary lines for deserts and other food? Meaning that the main line would be balanced lunches, while the other lines would be candy bars and the like.
 
Henrin said:
Couldn't you just say that the regular dishes go before desert? You know, direct the kids to main line, and not the secondary lines for deserts and other food? Meaning that the main line would be balanced lunches, while the other lines would be candy bars and the like.
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To much bullcrap to deal with.
Easier and more effective to say, "If you eat here, you eat what we make, otherwise BYOB."
 
spud_meister said:
But can you extend that argument to kids behaviour, clothing, or study habits? These things are regulated by schools already, and plus healthy food boosts your ability to concentrate compared to sugary foods, so there's also the argument that this could help kids grades.
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Not everyone is wired the same, and it is not for government to decide. Perhaps we should institute Atkins in schools, but some folks would freak about the content of that proven diet.

Why not leave people alone and let them and the parents decide? What is wrong with being an individual?

Nobody has answered this question either: What do these kids do for food on weekends, holidays, winter and summer vacation without Mommy Dearest DC?

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Harry Guerrilla said:
To much bullcrap to deal with.
Easier and more effective to say, "If you eat here, you eat what we make, otherwise BYOB."
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How? The teachers would bring the kids in, put them in line, and that is it. You wouldn't force anyone to eat it sure, but they would have the food in front of them and less money in their pockets to buy other stuff. That is the way it was when I was in school. What is wrong with it?
 
zimmer said:
Not everyone is wired the same, and it is not for government to decide. Perhaps we should institute Atkins in schools, but some folks would freak about the content of that proven diet.

Why not leave people alone and let them and the parents decide? What is wrong with being an individual?

Nobody has answered this question either: What do these kids do for food on weekends, holidays, winter and summer vacation without Mommy Dearest DC?

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That is where they regulate the food that you buy in grocery stores or just tax it more. But more and more they are just regulating all the bad away.
 
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