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Al-Qaeda 'confirms Bin Laden's death'

We will be drawing out of Iraq at the end of 2011, no need to accelerate an already planned time table that, IMO, as a liberal, is fair and will work fine. Afghanistan needs to be re-examined. Pulling out in 2014 is absolutely ridiculous. We need to reduce the number very slowly to about 30,000 or so troops, and leave them there in a police presence to train Afghani soldiers and keep things under control. What we are doing right now is nation building, while our economy is barely even recovering back at home.
 
Why do you have one pair of pants?

Burn them immediately, they were obviously made by terrorists... Because that's what terrorists do... Make pants...

I'll shut up now.

Sorry most of my pants. Most my pants are Levis and Levis are made in Pakistan...I looked at the tags for some reason today while doing laundry.
 
We will be drawing out of Iraq at the end of 2011, no need to accelerate an already planned time table that, IMO, as a liberal, is fair and will work fine. Afghanistan needs to be re-examined. Pulling out in 2014 is absolutely ridiculous. We need to reduce the number very slowly to about 30,000 or so troops, and leave them there in a police presence to train Afghani soldiers and keep things under control. What we are doing right now is nation building, while our economy is barely even recovering back at home.

That's what Im saying get all our troops out of both countries (save money) and if we need to be able to deploy to Pakistan quickly if needed, something I don't think we will have to do though.
 
Iraq and A-stan....Both Afghan and Iraqi governments (maybe Iraq controls a little bit more) do not control very much of the country and if not for our efforts, the psuedo governments wouldn't last very long.

How much we train the Afghanis/Iraqis appears very immaterial. They aren't very good material and I expect they'll either fall to AQ or degenerate back into battling war lords in a very short time.

Basically, we pull out...they succumb
 
Oh no, soon our pants will declare Jihad against us. Everybody protect your genitals!
 
Iraq and A-stan....Both Afghan and Iraqi governments (maybe Iraq controls a little bit more) do not control very much of the country and if not for our efforts, the psuedo governments wouldn't last very long.

How much we train the Afghanis/Iraqis appears very immaterial. They aren't very good material and I expect they'll either fall to AQ or degenerate back into battling war lords in a very short time.

Basically, we pull out...they succumb

Isn't that likely to happen whenever we pull out? How can we continue to afford spending trillions in unending war?
 
Does anyone think that al Qaeda acknowledging bin Laden's death will convince the Deathers that bin Laden is in fact dead? Methinks not.
 
Isn't that likely to happen whenever we pull out? How can we continue to afford spending trillions in unending war?

Pretty soon, add Libya to the list
 
Iraq and A-stan....Both Afghan and Iraqi governments (maybe Iraq controls a little bit more) do not control very much of the country and if not for our efforts, the psuedo governments wouldn't last very long.

How much we train the Afghanis/Iraqis appears very immaterial. They aren't very good material and I expect they'll either fall to AQ or degenerate back into battling war lords in a very short time.

Basically, we pull out...they succumb

That's not necessarily true. Iraq is pretty much in control now for the most part. There are only a little over 50,000 US troops there and they are just in a training/advisory role at this point. Iraq will be taken care of. I can't help agree about Afghanistan though.
 
I was surprised to hear about this. I figured they'd deny it, which was why I thought Obama should have released the death photos. This shows that Obama was correct, and bin Laden's death has been accepted without them. Good call on his part, it turns out.
 
That's not necessarily true. Iraq is pretty much in control now for the most part. There are only a little over 50,000 US troops there and they are just in a training/advisory role at this point. Iraq will be taken care of. I can't help agree about Afghanistan though.

Focus on the tribal aspect. The Shiites own most of Iraq and Iran is defintely helping them.

Iran's big money is on creating Hizballah Iraq (look it up) and they are using 25-30 years of US spec ops knowledge/training in covert tradecraft as well as their special Persian op skills to do it. Iranians may be able to grab power in a few years and make everything we have fought for since 2003 a things of the past ... a new, Iranian dominated Iraq.

Waiting patiently for the right time to strike. Just waiting for the US to pull out
 
Does anyone think that al Qaeda acknowledging bin Laden's death will convince the Deathers that bin Laden is in fact dead? Methinks not.

I'll be honest, I was kind of iffy on this stuff at first and I guess could have been considered more "skeptic" than a "deather" I think this deather stuff is just something MSNBC made up from a few off hand comments made on Fox News. Obama doesn't gain anything politically for not showing the pictures if anything, he probably suffers from it.

Also correction on my pants. The pants made in Pakistan are JCPenney brand pants. One pair of Levis I was washing were from Mexico..the other was from Columbia..the other was from Cambodia. I feel very indifferent now.
 
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Iranians may be able to grab power in a few years and make everything we have fought for since 2003 a things of the past ... a new, Iranian dominated Iraq.

Waiting patiently for the right time to strike. Just waiting for the US to pull out

I agree. Let's nation build Iran.
 
Does anyone think that al Qaeda acknowledging bin Laden's death will convince the Deathers that bin Laden is in fact dead? Methinks not.

I was surprised to hear about this. I figured they'd deny it, which was why I thought Obama should have released the death photos. This shows that Obama was correct, and bin Laden's death has been accepted without them. Good call on his part, it turns out.

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Of course AQ wants the U.S. to think we got him so that we'll stop looking for him. We only killed one of his many look-alikes.
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I'll be honest, I was kind of iffy on this stuff at first and I guess could have been considered more "skeptic" than a "deather" I think this deather stuff is just something MSNBC made up from a few off hand comments made on Fox News. Obama doesn't gain anything politically for not showing the pictures if anything, he probably suffers from it.

Also correction on my pants. The pants made in Pakistan are JCPenney brand pants. One pair of Levis I was washing were from Mexico..the other was from Columbia..the other was from Cambodia. I feel very indifferent now.

America should open a pants manufacturing plant. I hate indifference. :)
 
Focus on the tribal aspect. The Shiites own most of Iraq and Iran is defintely helping them.

Iran's big money is on creating Hizballah Iraq (look it up) and they are using 25-30 years of US spec ops knowledge/training in covert tradecraft as well as their special Persian op skills to do it. Iranians may be able to grab power in a few years and make everything we have fought for since 2003 a things of the past ... a new, Iranian dominated Iraq.

Waiting patiently for the right time to strike. Just waiting for the US to pull out

So we should sit there forever then? No. Iran knows damn well that if they go and try to annex Iraq, another 1990 gulf war will occur, and Iran will get its ass kicked.
 
So we should sit there forever then? No. Iran knows damn well that if they go and try to annex Iraq, another 1990 gulf war will occur, and Iran will get its ass kicked.

You are entitled to your point of view, however wrong it may be.
 
Does anyone think that al Qaeda acknowledging bin Laden's death will convince the Deathers that bin Laden is in fact dead? Methinks not.

If they don't believe he's dead why the threats of revenge?

I heard a report that some Dumb-ass said they want his body.

I'm pretty sure that Our Government has the only technology capable of finding and recovering such a target from the bottom of the Ocean if you knew about where he is.
 
So we should forever occupy the middle east? Yes or no answer that.

I don't respond well to orders anymore. Instead of me elaborating, how about you do your homework and quit whining?...but here's a thought for you. I've expressed my opinion in the past that nation building in the ME is a difficult, if not impossible task. The tribal nature of Afghanistan makes it very difficult, worse even than Iraq.

How do you think Libya is gonna turn out?
 
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