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U.S. Payrolls Grew 244,000 in April; Unemployment at 9%

Sheik Yerbuti said:
I hope you notice that chart you posted shows that the unemployment rate was already up to 8% when Obama's stimulus package went into effect. Given that, I'm not sure I can say I understand how it was expected to keep unemployment under 8%.
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Good because the unemployment never went under 8% with the Obama stimulus and today we have 2.6 million fewer people employed and 15 million people unemployed both worse than when Obama took office and spent over a trillion dollars.
 
Conservative said:
Good because the unemployment never went under 8% with the Obama stimulus and today we have 2.6 million fewer people employed and 15 million people unemployed both worse than when Obama took office and spent over a trillion dollars.
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Even you admitted that Obama hit the "key goal" of his stimulus plan which was to create or save at least 3 million jobs by the end of 2010.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Even you admitted that Obama hit the "key goal" of his stimulus plan which was to create or save at least 3 million jobs by the end of 2010.
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Here we go again, I gave you CBO numbers, not mine and the fact is 15 million Americans are out of work vs. 12+ million when he took office. There are 2.6 million fewer people employed. Wonder if those people believe Obama's economic plan has been successful?
 
Conservative said:
Here we go again, I gave you CBO numbers, not mine ...
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That was the number you accepted. You, not the CBO, then translated their numbers to equaling $228,000 per job. That was your number, not the CBO's, as it appeared nowhere in their report. That number per job was your number and that number can only be if there were 3.5 million jobs saved/created. Now you're trying to say you don't believe that number only since I pointed out to you what you didn't realize when you first posted it ... if that number is accurate, Obama hit the key goal of his stimulus plan.

Conservative said:
... and the fact is 15 million Americans are out of work vs. 12+ million when he took office. There are 2.6 million fewer people employed. Wonder if those people believe Obama's economic plan has been successful?
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Well you said his plan was successful. You don't think they believe you?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
That was the number you accepted. You, not the CBO, then translated their numbers to equaling $228,000 per job. That was your number, not the CBO's, as it appeared nowhere in their report. That number per job was your number and that number can only be if there were 3.5 million jobs saved/created. Now you're trying to say you don't believe that number only since I pointed out to you what you didn't realize when you first posted it ... if that number is accurate, Obama hit the key goal of his stimulus plan.


Well you said his plan was successful. You don't think they believe you?
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Who said I accept the number but what does it matter. The fact is Obama has more unemployed and fewer employed today than when he took office. You really don't know how CBO works do you?
 
Conservative said:
Who said I accept the number...
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Well you, not the CBO, posted that each job cost us $228,000. Are you now saying you don't accept the number you posted???

Holy ****!! :doh

Should I not accept anything you post because you don't accept what you post? :lamo
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Well you, not the CBO, posted that each job cost us $228,000. Are you now saying you don't accept the number you posted???

Holy ****!! :doh

Should I not accept anything you post because you don't accept what you post? :lamo
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The link I posted makes that statement, not me yet, keep diverting which is what you do to prevent from discussing the disaster that is Obama
 
Conservative said:
The link I posted makes that statement, not me yet, keep diverting which is what you do to prevent from discussing the disaster that is Obama
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That statement was in your link to the CBO. You posted it here, not Fox (which is where you really got that number from). You then asked me how I felt about each job costing $228,000, which I believed you meant. Why would you ask me that if you didn't believe the number you posted?

Are you now saying you don't accept what you post??

Let me know because if you don't accept what you post, you can imagine what others will think of what you post.
 
Conservative said:
You are right, I bought the personal responsibility teaching of my parents and am a product of the free enterprise and capitalistic economy that made this country great. I made it and if I can do it so can millions and millions of Americans. You keep buying the rhetoric and are either part of the problem or simply too naive beyond words. How many Americans truly need help? Put a number on it and then we can address the problem. Afraid it isn't what you have been led to believe? Stop thinking only with your heart as God actually gave you a brain to use for that.

WE have a 14.3 trillion debt due mostly to social engineering on the part of the govt. Things like the Great Society and New Deal were created by people thinking with their hearts and all those programs have grown and grown over the years never solving a problem, any problem yet bureaucrats still keep appealing to your heart. There comes a time when one has to realize that liberalism has made a fool out of people. When will you come to that conclusion?
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How about the $5 trillion added to the debt by your guy, President Bush, was that social engineering?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
That statement was in your link to the CBO. You posted it here, not Fox (which is where you really got that number from). You then asked me how I felt about each job costing $228,000, which I believed you meant. Why would you ask me that if you didn't believe the number you posted?

Are you now saying you don't accept what you post??

Let me know because if you don't accept what you post, you can imagine what others will think of what you post.
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Ah, Sheik welcome to my world. Its good to see another sane face, down in the rabbet hole fighting the good fight with me.:mrgreen:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I hope you notice that chart you posted shows that the unemployment rate was already up to 8% when Obama's stimulus package went into effect. Given that, I'm not sure I can say I understand how it was expected to keep unemployment under 8%.
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I don't know. You'll have to ask whoever in his administration came up with the claim.

Actually it was at 7.5% when the stimulus package was passed.
 
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danarhea said:
Funny you would mention this (and it came from Rush Limbaugh), when the Wall Street Journal reports that NONE of the McDonald's jobs was included in the April Report.





Rush Limbaugh just doesn't get it, or maybe he does and just happens to be one of the biggest serial liars in US history.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I didn't get the info from Limbaugh. I got it from algov.com and assumed that the 62,000 were included in last month's numbers.
 
what does it say when ONE MILLION desperate americans rush to COMPETE against EACH OTHER for sixty piddly thousand ENTRY LEVEL burger flipping jobs

seeya at the polls, progressives

bring your happy meals
 
JohnWOlin said:
Well if you don't let it get off the ground of course it will fail.
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I don't think at this time, and as it is proposed, there is going to be any state that takes on that budgetary disaster for the mere sake of saying that they can have it.

But, tell me, is Amtrak even profitable today? I don't think it is.


j-mac
 
The Prof said:
what does it say when ONE MILLION desperate americans rush to COMPETE against EACH OTHER for sixty piddly thousand ENTRY LEVEL burger flipping jobs

seeya at the polls, progressives

bring your happy meals
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Yes we adults will be inside enjoying a big Mac while the rechildren will be in play land working off their frustrations.:thumbs:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
That statement was in your link to the CBO. You posted it here, not Fox (which is where you really got that number from). You then asked me how I felt about each job costing $228,000, which I believed you meant. Why would you ask me that if you didn't believe the number you posted?

Are you now saying you don't accept what you post??

Let me know because if you don't accept what you post, you can imagine what others will think of what you post.
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I have NEVER accepted CBO numbers are accurate but instead simply a projection. CBO takes its assumptions from the Congress and whoever is in charge of that Congress which was Democrats when the numbers were released. Liberals always post CBO numbers when they suit them and ignore them when they don't/

I posted CBO numbers in response to your claims of CBO accuracy. You buy the numbers, I don't. So exactly what is your point. Mine remains, Obama has lost more jobs since taking office and has fewer unemployed. Doesn't matter what the Congress or CBO claims as the numbers from BLS have been used for decades and are the most accurate available. Liberals love pointing to jobs saved which obviously cannot be counted or verified.

"Your" President is a failure and you cannot accept it or the poor choice you made.
 
donc said:
Your getting faster in your dotage prof, it only took you three minutes on Google to find a link that time.Good show. :thumbs:
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What does it say when a job usually, and traditionally reserved for teens approaching entry into the job market, for a summer gig, are pushed out for carreer working class people trying to get off unemployment roles? Is that the sign of a strengthening ecomony? Not in my book.

j-mac
 
pbrauer said:
How about the $5 trillion added to the debt by your guy, President Bush, was that social engineering?
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By my guy? Yep, terrible but Obama will pass that number in less than 4 years. As I posted 9/11 and Katrina was more than a trillion of that debt but still Bush spent too much with the help of Congress. 5 trillion has been added by the Democrat Congress since 2007.
 
what does it say about the state of our economy when ONE MILLION americans rush to COMPETE against EACH OTHER for 60 piddly thousand ENTRY LEVEL burger flippers

when housing has reached double dip

when the dollar is crashing

when gas is racing towards $5 by summer

when q1 gdp is 1.8%, insufficient to keep up with population

when it's been two years, in times like these, since the party in power produced a budget

if our big 3 federal programs are not imminently restructured, they will simply not be their in their present form for our next generation

seeya at the polls, progressives

fries?
 
The Prof said:
what does it say about the state of our economy when ONE MILLION americans rush to COMPETE against EACH OTHER for 60 piddly thousand ENTRY LEVEL burger flippers

when housing has reached double dip

when the dollar is crashing

when gas is racing towards $5 by summer

when q1 gdp is 1.8%, insufficient to keep up with population

when it's been two years, in times like these, since the party in power produced a budget

if our big 3 federal programs are not imminently restructured, they will simply not be their in their present form for our next generation

seeya at the polls, progressives

fries?
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hey, remember when jobs created under bush were service jobs? no? remember when one of his cronies wnated to have hamburger flipping changed from service to manufacturing?

In the New Economics - Fast-Food Factories? - NYTimes.com
 
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