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Obama Says He Will Not Release Bin Laden Photo

This is a great decision, Bin Laden is dead and there is no reason to show him with half his head blown away. For those people who don't think he's really dead, would say the pictures were just photoshopped.

Well, it's not a great decision, it's a decision. Deciding not to bomb, but instead root out the asshole was a great decision. And my lone question is... why put the troops in there at huge risk of life and limb if the public doesn't get the evidence Obama was seeking in the first place?

I can deal with his photo decision, but much of the logic of not making the pic(s) public is a little lame.

I think the 911 families should be the folks to decide (for the President) whether or not the photo(s) should be released.

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No.

Obama doesn't want to hurt the feelings of his co-religionists.

If you want to cut straight to the heart of the matter.



Obama has, only one time in his entire life, done what was best for the nation. That was when he ordered the strike team to enter and do their job. Yes, Obama clearly knows what is best for the nation, it's the only way he could be so consistent in his avoidance of the beneficial path.


LOL! Very odd behavior to order the death of the leader of his "co-religionists," wouldn't you say? Do you think anyone other than morons will buy this tripe? :sun
 
You mean treat it like Ralphie's House, and put somehing like a Leg Lamp in the window with Fishnet Stocking?

Mr. Parker: It's a Major Award!
Swede: Shucks, I wouldn't know that. It looks like a lamp.
Mr. Parker: What is a lamp, you nincompoop? It's a Major Award. I won it!
Swede: Damn, hell, you say won it?
Mr. Parker: Yeah, mind power, Swede; mind power.

That film is too much fun.
 
There is some uproar here.

For me, there's no gain to Obama when he doesn't release the photos.

Conspiracy theorists will do their song and dance whether the picture is released or not...

and those of you who are upset over this.

Get over it, honestly, if you have to see a dead body to get your jiffy off over it, then by all means whatever floats your boat.

I'm with the president on this one, and I do not believe it is Americas job to kill people and broadcast their corpses across the planet.
 
@ MrV - Why is it the dumbest thing you've ever heard of? You can't think of any reason why it would be a bad idea to release the photo?

If Obama did release the photo, you'd probably still say it was the dumbest thing you ever heard of. You're just partisan like that.

I'm glad the photo wasn't released because it protects the soldiers who are still int he Middle East. I'm sure the terrorist networks are already pissed off that we took out their messiah, the last thing we need to do is add insult to injury by taunting them with the photo of his corpse.

It was a tempered decision and I see nothing wrong with it.

No, the partisan here is YOU. I've stated, several times it's not about the decision, but how it played out and why. You, and Catawba for thanking you, prove the real partisans here. I have not once slammed the DECISION as being dumb. I do disagree with the reasoning given... but this should have been decided PRIOR to the event. Instead we had reports the Pics and Video would get released... and then we're told it would be too insensitive to do it. THAT was DUMB.

The decision NOT too, I just disagree with.

The real partisan was you, shown by your complete fabrication of my position, and your BS "well if it had been you'd just have" line.

In the future, actually read what I write, not what you think I said because your politically left and I'm politically right. I thanked you for exposing yourself so to all.
 
When did Obama say "We'll definitely release it."?

And do we want to be like the terrorists who post photos and videos on the internet...

I think we're better then that. Don't you?

I never said he did. Nice try.

We are better, we're posting proof that the scum is dead, they post to recruit more to kill innocent people. That you have to even ask that question is shameful Hazlnut.
 
LOL! Very odd behavior to order the death of the leader of his "co-religionists," wouldn't you say? Do you think anyone other than morons will buy this tripe? :sun

The San Hedrin demanded the death of Jesus, did they not?
 
This is what you were asked:

When did Obama say they were definitely releasing it? This is the first I've heard from the whitehouse on whether they would release.

This is what you replied with:

BRIAN WILLIAMS:
There is a report as we have this conversation, for the record, 10:36 a.m., that the President, the White House, has decided and, it may already be out, to release a proof of death photo. What light can you shed on this?
LEON PANETTA:
The government obviously has been talking about how best to do this, but I don't think there's-- there was any question that ultimately a photograph would be presented to the public. Obviously I've seen those photographs. We've analyzed them and there's no question that it's Bin Laden.
BRIAN WILLIAMS:
Were you debating how the release of a photo would go over, given its gruesomeness, versus the need on behalf of people all over the world to demand proof of death?
LEON PANETTA:
I think there's no question that there were concerns and there were questions that had to be debated about just exactly question kind of impact-- would these photos have. But the bottom line is that, you know, we got Bin Laden and I think we have to reveal to the rest of the world the fact that we were able to get him and kill him.


Read more: The Page by Mark Halperin | Panetta: Public Likely to See OBL Picture

So again, how is Leon Panetta speaking for either Obama or the Obama administration? Matter of fact, what does Panetta have to do with whether Obama said he'll release the pictures or not? Were you oozing so much political anger whenever Bush and his officials said contradicting statements? Or are you simply at that time of the month? You know, the time where you get extra-partisan just for the hell of it?

I'm sorry, The Director of the CIA is now just some guy who doesn't matter? Is that it? Just a guy, some talking head to be ignored? There is no political "anger here"?
 
From the news I read this morning (it's morning here), Obama was very clear that he will not be releasing a death photo. He gave several reasons.

It may get leaked, but the US gov will not release it (while he is pres, at least).

The president said he had discussed the issue with his intelligence team, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and that they agree with the decision. White House press secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday that Mr. Obama made the decision today.

In explaining his choice not to release the photo, Mr. Obama said that "we don't need to spike the football." He said that "given the graphic nature of these photos it would create a national security risk."

The president told Kroft he saw the photos following the raid on the compound and knew that bin Laden had been killed.

"We discussed this internally," he said. "Keep in mind that we are absolutely certain that this was him. We've done DNA sampling and testing. And so there is no doubt that we killed Osama bin Laden."

When Kroft noted that there are people in Pakistan and elsewhere who believe bin Laden is still alive, the president said "we we monitoring worldwide reaction."

"There is no doubt that Osama bin Laden is dead," he said. "Certainly there is no doubt among al Qaeda members that he is dead. So we don't think that a photograph in and of itself is going to make any difference."

"There are going to be some folks who deny it," he added. "The fact of the matter is, you will not see bin Laden walking on this earth again."

Asked about the decision Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Carney said "there are obviously arguments to be made on either side."

"The fact of the matter is, as the president described, these are graphic photographs of someone who was shot in the face -- the head, rather," he said. "It is not in our national security interests to allow those images, as has been in the past been the case, to become icons to rally opinion against the United States. The president's number one priority is the safety and security of American citizens at home and Americans abroad. There is no need to release these photographs to establish Osama bin Laden's identity. And he saw no other compelling reason to release them, given the potential for national security risks. And further, because he believes, as he said so clearly, this is not who we are." (See video at left.)

"He wanted to hear the opinions of others, but he was very clear about his view on this," Carney added. "And, obviously, his decision is categorical." He said it applied to "all visual evidence" of bin Laden's death, including video of his burial at sea.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059739-503544.html?tag=breakingnews

You ppl don't check drudgereport?




Edit: I see you have the news, I just didn't get why it is still an issue. As far as I can tell, it's over. Next subject. My mistake.

This is the birther thing all over again. Unreal.
 
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Gawker — Today's gossip is tomorrow's news
Up until a few moments ago, when CBS News reported Obama's decision, the Administration had issued mixed signals on whether it intended to release graphic evidence of Osama's demise. CIA director Leon Panetta stated that he expected a photo would eventually be released, while Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton were reportedly opposed. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said yesterday that "there are sensitivities here in terms of the appropriateness of releasing photographs of Osama bin Laden in the aftermath of this firefight."

But all the agonizing may have been for naught. According to Daniel Metcalfe, the former chief of the Department of Justice's Office of Information and Privacy—a post that effectively made him the government's top expert in the Freedom of Information Act—the odds are better than even that a FOIA lawsuit seeking the photo's release would succeed.

sure do, you should try again.
 
the original story told us that Obama was watching it unfold in real time. apparently Osama was using his fourth wife as a human shield and hiding behind her. she, naturally, got killed. Osama got killed while he fired his gun while hiding behind his wife. apparently in the process one of Osama's sons was also killed, hell we even got told the name of his dead son. i mean ****, if Obama watched it in real time it happened yeah? someone saw Osama firing a gun and hiding behind his wife right? they watched it in real time!

since the original report, there are far too many different accounts to resolve this dilemma of reported 'facts' not matching up, so in their wisdom the Obama Administration simply decided that they would show us the pictures of them watching everything unfold in real time with horrified expressions on their faces. we can assume that the pictures shown didn't include them sitting around for the 20-25 minutes during the 'dead spot'. oops, that came out later.

now it appears Osama was not armed and was not hiding behind his wife... his wife was actually not killed... the son that they said was killed was not killed and apparently it was another son that was killed? maybe. even the "mansion" that he lived in, was nothing more than a dump.

i don't need to see the pictures but it would be nice if there was some constancy and accuracy in relation to what actually happened.
 
Got anything that doesn't say: Today's gossip is tomorrow's news

Nope. Just used Drudge, as the poster above me asked, and foudn a nice little article backing up what I've been saying, there were mixed signals from the WH about releasing the photos. Do you disagree there were mixed signals?
 
FOIA cannot violate national security.

People. Please, don't birther this. I'm gonna just check other threads and pretend there's not a new birthist movement.
 
Nope. Just used Drudge, as the poster above me asked, and foudn a nice little article backing up what I've been saying, there were mixed signals from the WH about releasing the photos. Do you disagree there were mixed signals?

From what it says there (not that I'm going to go with an article that says: Today's gossip is tomorrow's news).

There were no mixed signals, from what it says the CIA guy "expected" them to be released, he didn't say that they would be released.

I really think this whole thing is a non issue.
 
i don't need to see the pictures but it would be nice if there was some constancy and accuracy in relation to what actually happened.

What is necessary is the release of the videos recorded from helmet cams (assuming they used them) and all photographs, simply because the Administration and the news media, yet once again, as they ALWAYS do, can't get the story straight.

Will releasing the information make the story straight? Nope. There're idiots out there who still feel Gore won the 2000 election. There will always be those kind of idiots.

But, by putting the information out there, it becomes possible for real historians and other forensic specialists to begin piecing the true sequence of events together and eventually a consensus is arrived at what the salient points are and what their relationship to each other are.

Refusal to release the data prompts the necessary question:

Why the coverup?
 
FOIA cannot violate national security.

People. Please, don't birther this. I'm gonna just check other threads and pretend there's not a new birthist movement.

Releasing the photo of a corpse does not release security senstive information, and is thus subject to FOIA.
 
I agree the safety of the troops should come before anyone's desire to see bin Laden's body.

These troops are well trained and possess the latest technological weaponry. If any scumbag terrorists threatens them in any way then they have the capacity to respond, and should.

Perhaps some some photos of what happens to terrorists, and whether any celestial virgins might be interested in a bullet ridden corpse, might discourage further recruitment efforts.
 
Kernel Sanders, why shouldn't the phote be available via internet as proof of Ladin's death? Obviously we have worse photos on the internet.

We already have a photo of his dead body. Saw it Monday morning right here on DP.

'Course it was fake.

Why release something to prove he's dead? No photo is going to prove he's dead...because there will always be those who will say it's a fake. Which, frankly, it could be.

To those who need proof? I'd say: "Prove he's alive."

The president did the right thing.
 
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