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Osama Bin Laden is dead

Whovian said:
One of my daughters professors swears he has documented proof that Bin Laden was found dead in 2002, frozen, and held by the CIA.

Needless to say, as today was her last day of class, my daughter told her professor exactly what she thought of his comments.
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Wonderful. I had a professor who truly believed in the "What the *bleep* Do We Know?" film. I think she was still messed up from all of the drugs, spiritualism, and whatnot from her 1970s hippie days.
 



The world celebrates at the death ^_^ other than Pakistan. ;);););).
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
elation, and rejoicing, are far to strong. I am happy that mothervucker is dead, but closure? "rejoicing" "elation"? hardley, these folks are still dead.... America, **** yeah!
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I heard one official statement claimed last night this was the "best day" in American history. That was a real "What the ****" moment. My reaction was "Really? Better than independence? Better than the end of slavery? Better than beating the Nazis?"
 
Demon of Light said:
I heard one official statement claimed last night this was the "best day" in American history. That was a real "What the ****" moment. My reaction was "Really? Better than independence? Better than the end of slavery? Better than beating the Nazis?"
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People do often speak from emotion in the heat of the moment, Demon. I also would not demean their level of joy.
 
Fiddytree said:
People do often speak from emotion in the heat of the moment, Demon. I also would not demean their level of joy.
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Well, I side with the Vatican on this point:

Spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said that while Christians "do not rejoice" over a death, it serves to remind them of "each person's responsibility before God and men."
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Source: Reuters

I think that is an ideal to aspire to regardless of religious belief.

BTW anyone catch Jon King last night speaking with slurred speech? I got worried, but now some places are speculating he was drunk.
 
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I am hoping that not everyone here believes this story, you seem like an otherwise intelligent group
 
All I know is that for the first time in my two years under Obama, I am proud of my country and President

Yes I said it, I would never vote for Obama but I am proud of him today, he did good for once. (Just my opinion)
 
Didn't see this posted here:

U.S. Sen. Carl Levin, Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, said during a press conference that the Pakistani army has "a lot of explaining to do."

"I think the Pakistani army and intelligence have a lot of questions to answer, given the location, the length of time and the apparent fact that this facility was actually built for bin Laden and its closeness to the central location of the Pakistani army," Levin said. "So I think the army and the intelligence of Pakistan have plenty of questions that they should be answering and hopefully they are being asked by the Pakistani government."
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Source: CNN
 
Demon of Light said:
Well, I side with the Vatican on this point:



Source: Reuters

I think that is an ideal to aspire to regardless of religious belief.

BTW anyone catch Jon King last night speaking with slurred speech? I got worried, but now some places are speculating he was drunk.
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Yeah, I don't side with the Vatican there.
 
Demon of Light said:
Didn't see this posted here:



Source: CNN
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I'm thinking the rest of worlds opinion is being shaped by the absurdity of the "facts", as we speak.
never mind the "conspiracy" here at home, look at this from an outsiders perspective.


there is abosolutely no way Bin Laden was in this compound around hundreds of people for any length of time and word not get out.
Do NOT try to argue that, please.

that coupled with the fact that we airlifted the body from the compound and took it out to sea and dumped it immediately. I mean really.
I think sane people everywhere after this comes to rest are going to have a hard time grasping the circumstances leading up to, and immediately following,
given the high profile of this man and the worldwide impact of this act, its nearly impossible to believe.
JMO
 
The Giant Noodle said:
I was waiting for this. The GOP hates.... HATES when the opposition does something awesome. Now Im waiting for them to bash Obama somehow and/ or make it look like THEY are the victors.
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I don't think he was hating, I think that Dems are going to spin it, Obama deserves credit for ordering the mission to take Osama, but nothing more.
this has been a ongoing task for 4 years, starting with the water boarding of Khalid Sheikh mohammed at Gitmo. Information that lead to the messengers and aids.
an no thanks to Pakistan leaders for causing us look continue to search the mountains all the while they were hiding the bastard in a upper class neighborhood in a building that was 8 times bigger than the homes around itoh and all the neighbors were retired military, convenient... Obama should use this as a tool to garner better cooperation from the Pakistanie government.
 
shades said:
I'm thinking the rest of worlds opinion is being shaped by the absurdity of the "facts", as we speak.
never mind the "conspiracy" here at home, look at this from an outsiders perspective.


there is abosolutely no way Bin Laden was in this compound around hundreds of people for any length of time and word not get out.
Do NOT try to argue that, please.

that coupled with the fact that we airlifted the body from the compound and took it out to sea and dumped it immediately. I mean really.
I think sane people everywhere after this comes to rest are going to have a hard time grasping the circumstances leading up to, and immediately following,
given the high profile of this man and the worldwide impact of this act, its nearly impossible to believe.
JMO
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And let the conspiracy theories being ahahaha.
 
shades said:
there is abosolutely no way Bin Laden was in this compound around hundreds of people for any length of time and word not get out.
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As I noted in Message #245 in this thread, the location of Bin Laden's hideout, in close proximity to two Pakistani military bases and in a community with a significant military retiree population, raises questions of its own. In DOL's message, Senator Levin shares those concerns. It is difficult to believe that Pakistan lacked knowledge that the compound might have harbored Bin Laden. Fortunately, the Intelligence was solid and the U.S. raid was successful.
 
donsutherland1 said:
As I noted in Message #245 in this thread, the location of Bin Laden's hideout, in close proximity to two Pakistani military bases and in a community with a significant military retiree population, raises questions of its own. In DOL's message, Senator Levin shares those concerns. It is difficult to believe that Pakistan lacked knowledge that the compound might have harbored Bin Laden. Fortunately, the Intelligence was solid and the U.S. raid was successful.
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We didn't tell them about the raid in the first place for a reason you know. As a matter, of fact Don I think they were hiding him and he ran out of money to pay the government to shelled him.

Edited for terrible grammar and spelling. Sorry about that I'm just excited is all.
 
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Attempts to spin this into a partisan issue by both sides of the aisle are reprehensible - though not entirely unexpected.

Obama's administration is to be congratulated for the flawless execution of this operation. However, without the tough decisions taken by President Bush and his national security team, including but not limited to the usage of enhanced interrogation techniques, we would most likely not have found and killed bin Laden. We would still be looking. It is the continuity of policies in that has brought success, not the misguided effort of the last two years by the left to disavow them.
 
2K05GT said:
Can you or anyone tell me if the "Death" photo of Osama is real, I am not a conspericy type but it looks weird, I also found this article
Osama bin Laden Death Photo A Hoax | Radar Online

See attached photo
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Yes its fake already confirmed by the white house that they have the real one. Fox News says they are debating weather or not to release the thing in the first place.
 
oldreliable67 said:
Attempts to spin this into a partisan issue by both sides of the aisle are reprehensible - though not entirely unexpected.

Obama's administration is to be congratulated for the flawless execution of this operation. However, without the tough decisions taken by President Bush and his national security team, including but not limited to the usage of enhanced interrogation techniques, we would most likely not have found and killed bin Laden. We would still be looking. It is the continuity of policies in that has brought success, not the misguided effort of the last two years by the left to disavow them.
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Oh please....if Bush/Cheney use of torture had been effective at all, Bin Laden would have been captured years ago.
 
Ok, I'm convinced it's the real deal, but I have another problem... and it's the Americans celebrating in the streets. The coverage does not look that much different from when Palestinians or our other Middle Eastern enemies celebrate American deaths in their own streets. Just pointing out an interesting similarity.

Also, I tend to agree that this won't matter too much. The Al Qaeda leadership has many heads and Osama was not a prominent figure in recent times. I do think Al Qaeda has been severely damaged over the past 10 years, but it's still an active force.

My next concern is how the media continues to talk about this issue. Whether or not we want to face it, we are in a position that could really aggravate radicals in the Middle East. Are we going to play tit for tat and brandish Bin Laden's death as much as possible, or are we going to be sensible toward the safety of our troops and keep the reports to the cold hard facts?

I have always found it distasteful when the media and White House broadcasted the pictures of dead enemies, like when Saddam's son was killed. It's really just not necessary.
 
RyrineaHaruno said:
Yes its fake already confirmed by the white house that they have the real one. Fox News says they are debating weather or not to release the thing in the first place.
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Thanks, I deleted my post since is was already brought up on page 11 or 12. sorry for the double post
 
disneydude said:
Clinton...like GWB did little if anything to go after Bin Ladan....you are absolutely correct. But let's not play games and try to say that anything Bush did facilitated killing Bin Laden. Bush's inital response was appropriate, however, Bush, like most of his career was simply putty in the hands of Cheney and Rumsfield and he lost sight of our goals and became pre-occupied on the wrong course of action.
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If you think GWB did nothing to find Bin Laden....your grip on reality is tenuous at best.
 
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