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Osama Bin Laden is dead

American said:
Conservatives never complained about our troops doing their duty, but people like you did.
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American as a fellow a conservative: Please not now. Let's us just rejoice in this Huge Victory over Evil.
 
American said:
I know those on the left won't complain about the woman that got killed along with UBL.
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We can all publish statements of total irrelevance.

'I know those on the Right' wont complain about Obama, not Bush, eliminating target number 'one'

Paul
 
Hey here's something I never considered.

We can now make the last 10 years into a Hollywood Blockbuster.
 
Enhanced interrogations helped to accomplish this mission.
 
As a New Yorker. Good riddance. Kudos to President Obama for closing the chapter on the face of 9/11.
 
American said:
Enhanced interrogations helped to accomplish this mission.
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Considering the length of time that has passed, since EI has taken place, the validity and significance of that Intel will have been so outdated its relevance would only be minimal. So, i would say you failed in your attempt at justifying its widespread use.

Paul
 
gunner said:
Considering the length of time that has passed, since EI has taken place, the validity and significance of that Intel will have been so outdated its relevance would only be minimal. So, i would say you failed in your attempt at justifying its widespread use.

Paul
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Not to mention at best bin Laden had been in the villa since October 2010 and Obama took office and banned torture in 2009. That of course does not prevent the Pakistanis or others to use torture and tell the US about the results, but considering the Pakistanis were only told after the fact.. then well.
 
PeteEU said:
Not to mention at best bin Laden had been in the villa since October 2010 and Obama took office and banned torture in 2009. That of course does not prevent the Pakistanis or others to use torture and tell the US about the results, but considering the Pakistanis were only told after the fact.. then well.
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We don't know the specifics, what you're saying is pure speculation, it took years and years to get to this point.

It did not happen JUST because of Obama, and this whole operation didn't just start under him.

I'll tell you one thing though, I would have kept the ISI at arms length.
 
Jetboogieman said:
We don't know the specifics, what you're saying is pure speculation, it took years and years to get to this point.

It did not happen JUST because of Obama, and this whole operation didn't just start under him.

I'll tell you one thing though, I would have kept the ISI at arms length.
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No we dont know the specifics but bits have been leaked including the fact that they know was at the villa since October 2010. Now since Obama banned the use of torutre by US forces, and the ISI was kept at arms length, then chances of the information being gotten via torture are slim but not outside the realm of possibility (nothing is). Point is that, the claim that torture was a key factor in finding and killing him, is borderline fantasy speculation rather than even remotely factual.
 
Pakistan Taliban says it will launch retaliatory attacks. More soon...
 
Bin Laden raid was "tweeted".

BBC News - Bin Laden raid was revealed on Twitter

An IT consultant, living in Abbottabad, unintentionally tweeted details of the US-led operation as it happened.

Sohaib Athar wrote that a helicopter was hovering overhead shortly before the assault began and said that it might not be a Pakistani aircraft.

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soccerboy22 said:
My response to this in the other thread before it was locked was that Bush's mistakes about taking his eye off the ball weren't the place in that thread. President Bush started this by first going after him and President Obama ended it. It doesn't matter what, you, me, or anyone else thinks about how Bush conducted the war. President Obama owned it to Bush not only as the former president, but as man to man. Bush had the right to hear from Obama that we got the bastard first. Bush had the right to know what he started Obama helped finish tonight.
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FYI: It was Billy Bob Clinton that refused eight chances to capture him and two to kill him.
 
PeteEU said:
No we dont know the specifics but bits have been leaked including the fact that they know was at the villa since October 2010. Now since Obama banned the use of torutre by US forces, and the ISI was kept at arms length, then chances of the information being gotten via torture are slim but not outside the realm of possibility (nothing is). Point is that, the claim that torture was a key factor in finding and killing him, is borderline fantasy speculation rather than even remotely factual.
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They got the info from KSM years ago, but obviously it took time to use it.
 
American said:
They got the info from KSM years ago, but obviously it took time to use it.
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Inside the Operation That Brought Down Osama Bin Laden - ABC News

The intel was from the CIA, not Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.

Some interesting tidbits:

His DNA matched DNA taken from a sister who had died of brain cancer in Boston. Her brain had been preserved in case it was needed to confirm Bin Laden's DNA.

U.S. officials say Pakistan was not informed in advance of the military operation inside their borders.
 
Degreez said:
Inside the Operation That Brought Down Osama Bin Laden - ABC News

The intel was from the CIA, not Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.

Some interesting tidbits:

His DNA matched DNA taken from a sister who had died of brain cancer in Boston. Her brain had been preserved in case it was needed to confirm Bin Laden's DNA.

U.S. officials say Pakistan was not informed in advance of the military operation inside their borders.
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They said this earlier that interrogations of KSM led to knowledge about a personal courier of bin Laden.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It does? Really? My family and friends who are dead are still dead. Is it a good thing? sure. Is it "everything" hardley. Lets have some perspective here.
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Rev, it is common for those affected by a crime to want closure. Family of the dead do not go to the killer's death sentence for kicks... they want to see justice done. It is what it is. I can bet you that those affected by 9/11 are rejoicing today.
 
Does anyone else get this wonderful feeling deep down inside them knowing that crabs are feeding on bin Laden's body as we speak? That just makes me happy to the core.

GO NAVY SEALS!!! GO USA!!!!!!! Japan regretted attacking america, and now bin Laden does too!! DON'T MESS WITH THE USA! :usflag2:
 
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This news is a welcome development. Aside from justice's having been served, the outcome shatters Al Qaeda's ability to use Bin Laden as an icon and survivor in its narrative. Geopolitically South Asia remains essentially little changed. The Taliban continue their insurgency in Afghanistan aided, in part, by the impact of a corrupt regime in Kabul. Pakistan continues to slide toward failed state status. In the near-term attempts at revenge attacks could be particularly high in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, though Al Qaeda and its supporters will likely try to carry out attacks in a wider area. The location of Bin Laden's hideout, in close proximity to two Pakistani military bases and in a community with a significant military retiree population, raises questions of its own.
 
I would like to say that Obama had nothing to do with Bin Ladens capture, other than saying "yea, go get him." Credit should go to the CIA, not BHO.

Hardly a shoe-in for reelection in 2012. While Bin Ladens death is huge, it's not as close to home as being 15 trillion in debt and unemployment numbers near double digits. It's just the way it is. Saddams capture didn't promise a republican in 2008, so this won't do that for the dems either.
 
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dontworrybehappy said:
I would like to say that Obama had nothing to do with Bin Ladens capture, other than saying "yea, go get him." Credit should go to the CIA, not BHO.

Hardly a shoe-in for reelection in 2012. While Bin Ladens death is huge, it's not as close to home as being 15 trillion in debt and unemployment numbers near double digits. It's just the way it is. Saddams capture didn't promise a republican in 2008, so this won't do that for the dems either.
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In this case, I don't agree. Obama decided to carry on the GW Bush administration foreign policy (deplite his rhetoric to the contrary) and also decided to keep up and increase some aspects of it. Obama assigned the order to go investigate and continue going after Bin Laden, Obama also signed the actionable intel that authorized and ordered the assault on Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan. He does have something to do with it - and while I agree the CIA and Navy Seals actually carried it out, the Credit goes to Obama just as the criticism would go to Obama should the mission have failed.

This is a great day, but a very small one. Zawahiri is still at large, Al Qaeda is primarily cut up into small factions which have to continue to be monitored and rooted out. Last night was an excellent showing of how the US (despite Pakistan's harboring - which is a whole different story) is fully capable of going right into Pakistan covertly, doing the job and getting out. All terrorst wannabe's beware... make sure you're wills are up to date.
 
Visible line going through the picture of Osama dead as though two pictures where morphed (top half has slightly different skin tone), looks exactly like the picture on the left (the bottom half mouth area just inverted).
 
kaya'08 said:
Visible line going through the picture of Osama dead as though two pictures where morphed (top half has slightly different skin tone), looks exactly like the picture on the left (the bottom half mouth area just inverted).
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I think the reason he has slightly different skin tone was due to the fact of the blood splatter on his face.
 
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