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Osama Bin Laden is dead

I fear this as well. I wonder if there will be any attempts at retaliation.

Unfortunately it will cause some retaliation. This was the most famous icon for Al Qaeda members and sympathatizers.
Haven't seen any reaction from the Middle East on the news yet.
 
The real question is how Obama will handle this event. Osama was more a figurehead than anything else and his death is a powerful opportunity. It certainly would be possible to create a "we have finished what we set out to do in Afghanistan and its time to leave" narrative.
 
I am wondering that too. They should give em that money but they will probably try to say they were just doing their jobs. They should get that reward money.

With all the intel analysts, both US and pakistani, soldiers on the ground, CIA agents, pakistani agents, pakistani plants, paper pushers, etc, etc, the average share might just amount to 10 bucks each. LOL. This was a coordinated effort by a lot of people.
 
Actually, I hope that the reward money can be split among the entire unit. They deserve it.

That is what I told my mom and they better not destroy that body til they show us all proof either.
 
You know what is most exciting about this? The underlying strategic tones of his death.

I am an Intelligence Analyst in the US Army. So that means I'm pretty well trained and INFORMED on strategic planning and seeing things beyond face value.

Lets look at this deeper. This should make everyone happy. Does anyone here really believe it is remotely possible that this old, withered up man has hid from the most powerful surveillance and monitoring on the face of the planet? Do you really believe that everyone in the terrorist organization of Taliban is so loyal that they would never rat each other out for a little change? I call BS. I KNOW BS.

It is nearly impossible to hide from anyone these days. The average citizen with internet access and a cell phone can track just about anyone they want. Its scary how easy it is. So if you believe that we haven't known where he has been for a LONG time, then I really don't know how to help you.

The importance of this whole rant is that we have left him in place for a reason. He was a strategically placed pawn that stayed on the board almost to the end of the game. People believe that if you take out leaders in a military or military organization that it crumbles. Not so. Look at the Taliban as a business and Bin Laden as the CEO if you will. If the CEO of Dell Computers dies tomorrow will all Dell computers stop getting sold and functioning properly? Not at all. There are many people that take up the slack and actually make things happen. Its the same with a terrorist organization. Or any military for that matter. Taking out Bin Laden prematurely would do nothing but inspire hate and a sense of martydom. The rest of the puzzle has to be set in place correctly. So was the bomb that killed Bin Laden a lucky fluke? NO! We knew what we were doing. So that means that the pieces are lining up. The end is nigh.

I encourage everyone to look deeper at what you see on the news. The government does not tell you everything. And its nessecary that they don't. But that doesn't keep you from digging a little bit. Don't let the trees block your view of the forest.
 
Let me make an observation. Today, we have seen Liberals and Conservatives come together, and practically hold each others' hands, over this issue. Let's enjoy this moment while we can. Despite our differences, we are all Americans with a common love of country that is unmatched anywhere else in the world.

Care to sing a song with me, folks?

 
You know what is most exciting about this? The underlying strategic tones of his death.

I am an Intelligence Analyst in the US Army. So that means I'm pretty well trained and INFORMED on strategic planning and seeing things beyond face value.

Lets look at this deeper. This should make everyone happy. Does anyone here really believe it is remotely possible that this old, withered up man has hid from the most powerful surveillance and monitoring on the face of the planet? Do you really believe that everyone in the terrorist organization of Taliban is so loyal that they would never rat each other out for a little change? I call BS. I KNOW BS.

It is nearly impossible to hide from anyone these days. The average citizen with internet access and a cell phone can track just about anyone they want. Its scary how easy it is. So if you believe that we haven't known where he has been for a LONG time, then I really don't know how to help you.

The importance of this whole rant is that we have left him in place for a reason. He was a strategically placed pawn that stayed on the board almost to the end of the game. People believe that if you take out leaders in a military or military organization that it crumbles. Not so. Look at the Taliban as a business and Bin Laden as the CEO if you will. If the CEO of Dell Computers dies tomorrow will all Dell computers stop getting sold and functioning properly? Not at all. There are many people that take up the slack and actually make things happen. Its the same with a terrorist organization. Or any military for that matter. Taking out Bin Laden prematurely would do nothing but inspire hate and a sense of martydom. The rest of the puzzle has to be set in place correctly. So was the bomb that killed Bin Laden a lucky fluke? NO! We knew what we were doing. So that means that the pieces are lining up. The end is nigh.

I encourage everyone to look deeper at what you see on the news. The government does not tell you everything. And its nessecary that they don't. But that doesn't keep you from digging a little bit. Don't let the trees block your view of the forest.

The conspiracy thread is elsewhere, Dr. Analyst. The best thing about a puppet enemy figurehead is that you can eliminate them easily and declare victory. Look what happened to Saddam. The fact that Osama was "left in place" disproves the puppet figurehead theory.
 
In my uninformed and speculative opinion, this doesn't matter all that much in the big scheme of things.
A good short term moral boost for people here, but it's likely that he wasn't calling the shots in the local area's of operation.
 
With all the intel analysts, both US and pakistani, soldiers on the ground, CIA agents, pakistani agents, pakistani plants, paper pushers, etc, etc, the average share might just amount to 10 bucks each. LOL. This was a coordinated effort by a lot of people.

Not if what MaggieD said is true. She said it was a tipster and if true? I agree with mega on this that they should get that money and they should also get some sort of protection as no telling what could happen to them? :(
 
Normally a major historical figure dies and it causes an outpouring of sorrow. Tonight a man is dead, children made fatherless, and there is singing and dancing in the streets. Sometimes I wonder what God was thinking when he tipped off Noah. An omniscient being should have known well enough not to expect anything better from us.

Leaving that aside, are we really not going to get into the whole "in a mansion in a city 90 miles outside Islamabad" thing?
 
In my uninformed and speculative opinion, this doesn't matter all that much in the big scheme of things.
A good short term moral boost for people here, but it's likely that he wasn't calling the shots in the local area's of operation.

To anyone who knows a victim, a first responder, or a citizen of NYC -- this means everything.

A mass murder has met justice!!
 
While this is nice, I doubt it will prove significant, in regards to US foreign policy
 
In my uninformed and speculative opinion, this doesn't matter all that much in the big scheme of things.
A good short term moral boost for people here, but it's likely that he wasn't calling the shots in the local area's of operation.

You are right. In fact I bet it will get worse for a few weeks because of this.
 
Dan, even though I am not a Christian? I love that song and will sing it with ya buddy:cool:
 
You know what is most exciting about this? The underlying strategic tones of his death.

I am an Intelligence Analyst in the US Army. So that means I'm pretty well trained and INFORMED on strategic planning and seeing things beyond face value.

Lets look at this deeper. This should make everyone happy. Does anyone here really believe it is remotely possible that this old, withered up man has hid from the most powerful surveillance and monitoring on the face of the planet? Do you really believe that everyone in the terrorist organization of Taliban is so loyal that they would never rat each other out for a little change? I call BS. I KNOW BS.

It is nearly impossible to hide from anyone these days. The average citizen with internet access and a cell phone can track just about anyone they want. Its scary how easy it is. So if you believe that we haven't known where he has been for a LONG time, then I really don't know how to help you.

The importance of this whole rant is that we have left him in place for a reason. He was a strategically placed pawn that stayed on the board almost to the end of the game. People believe that if you take out leaders in a military or military organization that it crumbles. Not so. Look at the Taliban as a business and Bin Laden as the CEO if you will. If the CEO of Dell Computers dies tomorrow will all Dell computers stop getting sold and functioning properly? Not at all. There are many people that take up the slack and actually make things happen. Its the same with a terrorist organization. Or any military for that matter. Taking out Bin Laden prematurely would do nothing but inspire hate and a sense of martydom. The rest of the puzzle has to be set in place correctly. So was the bomb that killed Bin Laden a lucky fluke? NO! We knew what we were doing. So that means that the pieces are lining up. The end is nigh.

I encourage everyone to look deeper at what you see on the news. The government does not tell you everything. And its nessecary that they don't. But that doesn't keep you from digging a little bit. Don't let the trees block your view of the forest.

Stop it please, take your nonsense elsewhere.
 
The conspiracy thread is elsewhere, Dr. Analyst. The best thing about a puppet enemy figurehead is that you can eliminate them easily and declare victory. Look what happened to Saddam. The fact that Osama was "left in place" disproves the puppet figurehead theory.

Saddam was the head of a country. Bin Laden was the head of an organization that has more splinters than wood. His "theory" is dead on. Westerners tend to believe in the patriarchal organization. One head controls everything. The Middle East and more specifically Muslims and Jews believe in tribal structures whereby one figure leads ideologically but many others enforce his teachings. Just look at the Bible. It's riddled with prophets and religious men circulating around the same time. Muslim expansion out of the Middle East worked this way. Many heads, one body. We have the idea that if we kill enough heads sooner or later the body will fall, they're fully aware that we'll have to kill all of them in order for the idea to die.
 
Saddam was the head of a country. Bin Laden was the head of an organization that has more splinters than wood. His "theory" is dead on. Westerners tend to believe in the patriarchal organization. One head controls everything. The Middle East and more specifically Muslims and Jews believe in tribal structures whereby one figure leads ideologically but many others enforce his teachings. Just look at the Bible. It's riddled with prophets and religious men circulating around the same time. Muslim expansion out of the Middle East worked this way. Many heads, one body. We have the idea that if we kill enough heads sooner or later the body will fall, they're fully aware that we'll have to kill all of them in order for the idea to die.

So... you're saying that Osama was an American puppet?
 
Technically, that isn't "justice" in the traditional, American sense.

Hell Yes it is!!

It's traditional American justice. It's divine justice. It's poetic justice.

The only thing that would make this better is if President Obama had the phone number of the mansion and called 20 seconds before the Seal Team landed.

"They have no intention of bringing you in alive."



This is all-American Clint Eastwood justice baby!!!
 
Hell Yes it is!!

It's traditional American justice. It's divine justice. It's poetic justice.

The only thing that would make this better is if President Obama had the phone number of the mansion and called 20 seconds before the Seal Team landed.

"They have no intention of bringing you in alive."



This is all-American Clint Eastwood justice baby!!!

No traditional American justice is done before a court of law.
Just saying.
 
Technically, that isn't "justice" in the traditional, American sense.

You're right. This isn't "justice" in the sense that we normally accept, that being judgment under the law. But he did get what he had coming to him.
 
Normally a major historical figure dies and it causes an outpouring of sorrow. Tonight a man is dead, children made fatherless, and there is singing and dancing in the streets. Sometimes I wonder what God was thinking when he tipped off Noah. An omniscient being should have known well enough not to expect anything better from us.

Really?

I consider myself a reasonably level-headed person. I'm about the farthest thing away from nationalistic there is.

Yet when I heard this news, I ran into the other room, grabbed my girlfriend, threw on some Ink Spots and danced with her. This isn't about a single man. This is about a small, bright light in a time of darkness. This is about giving people just a tiny bit of faith that their government and their armed forces can serve justice, even in these dark times. This is a symbol that our country can accomplish what we set out to do and follow through on our promise that we would find this son of a bitch and make him pay for what he did.
 
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