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Osama Bin Laden is dead

It's amazing how little basic leadership skill, tact, experience, statesmanship, class, and integrity is required to be an elected leader in this country today.
This is the result of our loss of basic family structure and the resulting lack of moral fiber, which in turn has led to widespread institutionalized government dependence.
I think it is better explained by elements like rational irrationality and rational ignorance. These seem to have more direct and more measurable impacts on behavior.

Compare our current "statemen" with those who signed the declaration and the level of debate that occurred in Independence Hall in those days.
I believe if were in the midst of fomenting an armed insurrection in our own country that some of the political chaff would fall to the wayside.
 
You're just barely a liberal though.

Nah, what I am is a college kid who thinks. I am a faithful, NPR-listening, card-carrying liberal :D There are plenty of folks on here who are solid liberals, who don't end up sounding like Code Pink because they're not crazy or stupid.

Bashing Bush does not a true liberal make.
 
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Nah, what I am is a college kid who thinks. I am a faithful, NPR-listening, card-carrying liberal :D There are plenty of folks on here who are solid liberals, who don't end up sounding like Code Pink because they're not crazy or stupid.

Bashing Bush does not a true liberal make.


You're absolutely right! when I lived in MD for 20 years I had many, many friends that were liberals, who could make their case when discussing politics very soundly, and also had the manners to actually listen to the other side of the argument without the name calling, mockery, and nasty little snark that so often today is prevalent. I appreciate those people, not that I agree with their politic but they are wonderful people, and am glad to have them as friends.

I wish that I'd have known you when I lived there, you sound like one of those people.

j-mac
 
Nah, what I am is a college kid who thinks. I am a faithful, NPR-listening, card-carrying liberal :D There are plenty of folks on here who are solid liberals, who don't end up sounding like Code Pink because they're not crazy or stupid.

Bashing Bush does not a true liberal make.

BTW SB, good luck on your finals. The semester is almost over. Will you get the summer off or are you taking classes?
 
BTW SB, good luck on your finals. The semester is almost over. Will you get the summer off or are you taking classes?

I've used the past few summers to take summer classes...I really need a semester off from school. I'm still searching, but I'll likely take a summer job or internship somewhere so as to remain productive.
 
I've used the past few summers to take summer classes...I really need a semester off from school. I'm still searching, but I'll likely take a summer job or internship somewhere so as to remain productive.

Good for you. I never took a summer off and it was a mistake.

I needed a break from the pressure of school more than I realized.

Good luck.
 
I've used the past few summers to take summer classes...I really need a semester off from school. I'm still searching, but I'll likely take a summer job or internship somewhere so as to remain productive.

Dude student to student- travel if you can. I never did and I was always tired coming back to school. Although I either was working/interning/taking classes. Although now after I move out of my apartment this summer my brother and I are taking a week/2 week road trip down the coast.
 
Dude student to student- travel if you can. I never did and I was always tired coming back to school. Although I either was working/interning/taking classes. Although now after I move out of my apartment this summer my brother and I are taking a week/2 week road trip down the coast.

No $$$ :(

Living in the DC Metro area isn't a bad thing though...lot's of opportunities.
 
..then where is his body? at sea? do you really believe this?
 
..then where is his body? at sea? do you really believe this?

I do in fact believe Osama bin Laden is dead...if he wasn't, he would have released another video by now.

That being said, I'm not sure if dumping the body in the ocean was a) truly according to Muslim tradition and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.
 
I do in fact believe Osama bin Laden is dead...if he wasn't, he would have released another video by now.

...which makes him dead?

That being said, I'm not sure if dumping the body in the ocean was a) truly according to Muslim tradition and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.

a) is not

b) concpiracy is something cia is good at, like the report of nukes in Iraq
 
a) truly according to Muslim tradition

Some Muslims are upset because you can only be buried at sea if you died at sea. HOWEVER, I think it is better than the alternative of having either people: 1. discrete the grave site and piss a lot of other people off or 2. having some one steal the body and making the new burial site a shrine. I mean the family didn't want it, so I didn't see any problem with Obama doing what he did. In fact I thought that he at least tried to accustom Muslim tradition was a good PR move.

and b) a good idea given the conspiracy theories that might arise.

Was going to happen anyways.
 
...which makes him dead?



a) is not

b) concpiracy is something cia is good at, like the report of nukes in Iraq

Yes, if he has not released a video by now, it makes him dead. OBL would take any and every chance he has to rub something in America's face. Escaping hot death would certainly provide him a good opportunity.
 
have you ever read how this idiot laden gained power? if you have, then you could have some good reasons not to believe in what The soldiers or someone in the state have said...
 
Some Muslims are upset because you can only be buried at sea if you died at sea. HOWEVER, I think it is better than the alternative of having either people: 1. discrete the grave site and piss a lot of other people off or 2. having some one steal the body and making the new burial site a shrine. I mean the family didn't want it, so I didn't see any problem with Obama doing what he did. In fact I thought that he at least tried to accustom Muslim tradition was a good PR move.



Was going to happen anyways.

I was just listening to the Diane Rehm show not an hour ago. A guest panelist said that Salafi Muslims like Osama view all shrines (besides Mecca) as heretical anyway.
 
are we living in the same planet?
So you don't want to answer the direct question.

I actually don't know what planet you're living on, so I can't answer your question. I live on Earth Prime. Where do you live?
 
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I live on earth regular. How's the weather there?
 
are we living in the same planet?

You have quite a bit of reading to do.

You can start with the ISG report. The key findings are only 19 pages long.

When you're finished with that you still need to read UNSCOM and UNMOVIC reports.

Obviously you never bothered to educate yourself on this subject.
 
You have quite a bit of reading to do.

You can start with the ISG report. The key findings are only 19 pages long.

When you're finished with that you still need to read UNSCOM and UNMOVIC reports.

Obviously you never bothered to educate yourself on this subject.


it is an answer, which you obviously do not care, the result is what i said is true; not concpiracy nor a lie; however, you just criticise some irrelevant things about me...
 
Absolutely not. GWB just let the cat out of the bag.

I'm pretty sure Clinton is the one who let the cat out of the bag. Wasn't it a ***** that got him in so much trouble in the first place?
 
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