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Governor says Obama leaving Texas in the dust

During this fire season, the federal government has been supporting the State of Texas with 22 Fire Management Assistance Grant (FMAG) declarations, including 16 FMAGs since the beginning of April; and through FEMA, stands ready to assist as needed.

Cooper Mountain Ranch Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 15, 2011 (designated FEMA-2889-FM-TX) for the Cooper Mountain Ranch Fire burning in Kent, Stonewall, and Fisher Counties.

Wichita Fire Complex (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 15, 2011 (designated FEMA-2891-FM-TX) for the Wichita Fire Complex burning in Wichita County.

Wildcat Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 15, 2011 (designated FEMA-2892-FM-TX) for the Wildcat Fire burning in Coke and Tom Green Counties.

Hohertz Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 16, 2011 (designated FEMA-2893-FM-TX) for the Hohertz Fire burning in Palo Pinto County.

East Sidwynicks Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 16, 2011 (designated FEMA-2894-FM-TX) for the East Sidwynicks Fire burning in Eastland County.

PK East Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 16, 2011 (designated FEMA-2895-FM-TX) for the PK East Fire burning in Palo Pinto County.

Bryson Fire Complex (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 17, 2011 (designated FEMA-2896-FM-TX) for the Bryson Fire Complex burning in Jack County.

Pinnacle Fire (Texas)
An FMAG was declared on April 17, 2011 (designated FEMA-2898-FM-TX) for the Pinnacle Fire burning in Travis County.

A full listing of FMAGs that have been declared for the state of Texas can be found on our website here.
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FEMA: Texas State Disaster History

FEMA seems to be giving more assistance to Texas than they have since 2005.

But let's not let ****ing numbers and **** get in the way of a good talking point.
 
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You know, I am really, really pissed off that people (and they exist on both sides of the aisle) are using the Alabama tragedy as a political football. Where the **** is your humanity, guys? As of right now, there are 349 dead, and the death toll is still rising. There are also more than 400 still missing, and you can presume that the majority of those are also dead. Untold thousands have been injured, and untold thousands have lost everything they have. It will take years to rebuild what has been destroyed in Alabama and 7 other states, and the memory of what happened will NEVER be erased. This is the worst tornado outbreak since the Great Depression. And all that some people can do is use these poor unfortunates to score a few ****ing political points? This is just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. So disgusting that I am at a complete loss for words to adequately describe it.

I don't agree with Alabama's politics, but God damn it, as far as I am concerned, today we are ALL Alabamans. As for the political assholes, on both the right and left, they deserve a kick in the nuts, and maybe an F-5 tornado in their own lives. Then let's see how political these morons get.

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ric27 said:
Councilman and I tend to place America first and the interests of Americans first.

Meaning...America should do what is best for Americans first and worry about the worlds problems only after our problems at home are solved NOT some bull**** conflict in Libya involving muslim rebels...and at the end NONE of those ME contries (rebels) gives a **** for the US, or possesses the least bit of enduring gratitude or would remain a friend of the US one second longer than they needed our money or protection
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Could you have any more grandiose?

I mean honestly

"i put America first!"

Pal ease! Calm down captain america.

Texas is getting FEMA help, see deuces post.
 
pbrauer said:
Hasn't Gov. Perry talked of seceding from the union, and now he wants (another) handout from the Federal government?
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Maybe they should...I mean apparently they can live without the Federal government, right?
 
rocket88 said:
Maybe they should...I mean apparently they can live without the Federal government, right?
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Although Texas is a net feeder at the federal government trough.... but if they decided to split, I sure would not miss them.
 
Bruce said:
Absolutely, people should have to suffer because of what their governor said, regardless of if they voted for him or not. :roll:
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Never said that. They are suffering BECAUSE of their governor and his policies and his parties policies... The people should get all the help they can get, but it should in no way be allowed to have Perry and his minions to claim credit for it.

Oh, and what he actually said was
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HAHAH no that is NOT what he said.. nice Hannity attempt there.

He said

Perry: Texas is a unique place. When we came into the Union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.

We got a great Union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it, but if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what may come out of that.
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The underlined is the key part.. that is a threat of succession.
 
PeteEU said:
Never said that. They are suffering BECAUSE of their governor and his policies and his parties policies... The people should get all the help they can get, but it should in no way be allowed to have Perry and his minions to claim credit for it.



HAHAH no that is NOT what he said.. nice Hannity attempt there.

He said



The underlined is the key part.. that is a threat of succession.
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No, they are suffering in Alabama because of damn tornadoes. They are suffering in Texas because of a damn drought. Nothing to do with politics, Pete. Mother Nature happens. As much as I dislike Rick Perry, I am not going to blame him for something that is not his fault. I am going to pray for the victims. Will you say a prayer too?
 
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danarhea said:
No, they are suffering in Alabama because of damn tornadoes. They are suffering in Texas because of a damn drought. Nothing to do with politics, Pete. Mother Nature happens. As much as I dislike Rick Perry, I am not going to blame him for something that is not his fault. I am going to pray for the victims. Will you say a prayer too?
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It is political as soon as Rick Perry complains over "lack of federal funding" or help.. he made it political. He also made it political by being a climate change denier, and and over all arrogant prick that says one thing and does the opposite as long as it is political convenient for him. I have zero sympathy for the man or his politics or anyone who supports him.

As for the suffering in the bible belt area of the US from tornadoes and floods and droughts.. yes it is horrible but like it or not, not unusual there or elsewhere around the world. Some are just better at dealing with it.

There has been a drought and fire problem in Texas for years if not decades.

Tornadoes and floods happen every year in the other areas being struck, so it is not unusual.

The states involved should know this and have been prepared for it, but year after year these states seem more and more unprepared and have to ask for federal aid.. and it makes it double ironic when it is states that have threatened to leave the union and complain about the "feds" power day in and day out..

As for praying for the victims.. I dont pray in any church or religious establishment but they are in my thoughts (minus Rick Perry and his cohorts).
 
Jetboogieman said:
Ah the smell of hypocracy (and charred homes and wood)

"WE DONT NEED NO BIG DADDY GUBMINT!".

"SAVE US BIG GUBMINT!".

Oh yeah of course Ric and Councilman play the "If it were a muslim bull****"

Which has about as much basis in reality as me getting to sleep with Jessica Alba.
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This just goes to show that Liberals have zero concept of the limited government and can only see big government that meddles in every aspect of our lives, or no government at all.
 
Your Star said:
So they are helping Alabama because they are such a liberal state :roll:
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Lots of black voters in Alabama. Not so many in Texas.

Kinda like the difference between Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Katrina, New Orleans, lots of black folks, lots of coverage. Rita, Cameron Parish, mostly rural white, very little coverage. I bet you hadn't even heard of places like Cameron, Creole, Grand Chenier, Abbeville, Maurice and Erath before now. There's farm land in Cameron and Vermillion parishes that are still unusable because of the salt water the tidel surges pushed onto them. What about Venice, Boothville and Port Sulpher? Those towns, in Plaquemines Parish, below New Orleans were literally wiped off the map by Katrina and I bet you've never heard of them, either. They sure as hell never got any coverage in the media.
 
PeteEU said:
Not to mention he floated the idea of succession from the Union, slammed stimulus and federal money and so on and so on. He is a grade A hypocrite.. what cant his so great state not handle a few wild fires? Have to ask big daddy for help? So much on standing on your own feet and pissing on the union you are a member off.
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That's probably what Obama is saying, too. Huh?
 
PeteEU said:
Never said that. They are suffering BECAUSE of their governor and his policies and his parties policies... The people should get all the help they can get, but it should in no way be allowed to have Perry and his minions to claim credit for it.



HAHAH no that is NOT what he said.. nice Hannity attempt there.

He said



The underlined is the key part.. that is a threat of succession.
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It's, "secession"! Get it right, damn!
 
apdst said:
Lots of black voters in Alabama. Not so many in Texas.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA FAIL. You've never been to TX, have you? Not that your politicization of the crisis deserves any clarification; but there are plenty of black voters in TX.
 
PeteEU said:
It is political as soon as Rick Perry complains over "lack of federal funding" or help.. he made it political. He also made it political by being a climate change denier, and and over all arrogant prick that says one thing and does the opposite as long as it is political convenient for him. I have zero sympathy for the man or his politics or anyone who supports him.

As for the suffering in the bible belt area of the US from tornadoes and floods and droughts.. yes it is horrible but like it or not, not unusual there or elsewhere around the world. Some are just better at dealing with it.

There has been a drought and fire problem in Texas for years if not decades.

Tornadoes and floods happen every year in the other areas being struck, so it is not unusual.

The states involved should know this and have been prepared for it, but year after year these states seem more and more unprepared and have to ask for federal aid.. and it makes it double ironic when it is states that have threatened to leave the union and complain about the "feds" power day in and day out..

As for praying for the victims.. I dont pray in any church or religious establishment but they are in my thoughts (minus Rick Perry and his cohorts).
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Which means that you are no better than Rick Perry when it comes to making irresponsible statements. Some high road you are taking.....NOT.
 
apdst said:
Lots of black voters in Alabama. Not so many in Texas.

Kinda like the difference between Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Katrina, New Orleans, lots of black folks, lots of coverage. Rita, Cameron Parish, mostly rural white, very little coverage. I bet you hadn't even heard of places like Cameron, Creole, Grand Chenier, Abbeville, Maurice and Erath before now. There's farm land in Cameron and Vermillion parishes that are still unusable because of the salt water the tidel surges pushed onto them. What about Venice, Boothville and Port Sulpher? Those towns, in Plaquemines Parish, below New Orleans were literally wiped off the map by Katrina and I bet you've never heard of them, either. They sure as hell never got any coverage in the media.
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You have to be kidding me. I live in Texas, and I can tell you first hand that there are plenty of black voters here, mostly Democrat, but a few Republicans too.
 
It's good that Obama hates Texas. That means Texas is fighting the good fight.
 
danarhea said:
Which means that you are no better than Rick Perry when it comes to making irresponsible statements. Some high road you are taking.....NOT.
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It's pete... I mean... do you really expect differently?
 
pbrauer said:
Gov. Perry took $6 billion stimulus money from the Feds to balance his budget, now he wants more to fight the wildfires in Texas. :roll:





Governor says Obama leaving Texas in the dust - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com
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Wow - are you really holding it as a negative that a state needs goverment support to fight ails of nature?

Does your view apply to Alabama and other states as well?

In the wake of natural disasters for all over the US is it inaproprite to request federal aid to help quelch the problems and care for the people?

I don't see fianncial issues such as appropriations and stimulus spending (or borrowing) to be related - at all - to having a natural disaster and needing the federal government to help out financially in this regard.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Wow - are you really holding it as a negative that a state needs goverment support to fight ails of nature?

Does your view apply to Alabama and other states as well?

In the wake of natural disasters for all over the US is it inaproprite to request federal aid to help quelch the problems and care for the people?

I don't see fianncial issues such as appropriations and stimulus spending (or borrowing) to be related - at all - to having a natural disaster and needing the federal government to help out financially in this regard.
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The difference is those states (like Texas) that whine and cry about the stimulus and government involvement, then turn around and want that government involvement and stimulus money. While I don't condemn all of Texas, their government leaders need to quit being so hypocritical.
 
TheNextEra said:
The difference is those states (like Texas) that whine and cry about the stimulus and government involvement, then turn around and want that government involvement and stimulus money. While I don't condemn all of Texas, their government leaders need to quit being so hypocritical.
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What's hypocritical about it?

Anyone can be anti excessive borrowing and wasteful spending and supportive of giving support when it's needed.
 
apdst said:
This just goes to show that Liberals have zero concept of the limited government and can only see big government that meddles in every aspect of our lives, or no government at all.
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Well now, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want a limited government, they also would have limited power which, therefore, means limited funds.

If spending is going to be cut, people will have to start going without it. You can't just start complaining when it's your own turn to sacrifice. Where are your morals?


Aunt Spiker said:
What's hypocritical about it?

Anyone can be anti excessive borrowing and wasteful spending and supportive of giving support when it's needed.
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Excessive when it's for others and "essential" when it's for yourself? Everyone thinks their own problems are the most important. What now? Do we have a scale to weigh problems and needs?
 
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PeteEU said:
Not to mention he floated the idea of succession from the Union, slammed stimulus and federal money and so on and so on. He is a grade A hypocrite.. what cant his so great state not handle a few wild fires? Have to ask big daddy for help? So much on standing on your own feet and pissing on the union you are a member off.
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Let's not forget how much the federal government actually siphons out of each state. Also, I would wager that the severity of the wildfires is actually worsened by the fact that federal forestry management is so God awful horrible... The Federal government bears at least some of the responsibility for this...
 
Animus said:
Well now, you can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want a limited government, they also would have limited power which, therefore, means limited funds.

If spending is going to be cut, people will have to start going without it. You can't just start complaining when it's your own turn to sacrifice. Where are your morals?




Excessive when it's for others and "essential" when it's for yourself? Everyone thinks their own problems are the most important. What now? Do we have a scale to weigh problems and needs?
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Give me link to evidence of them saying that disaster relief was unacceptable means of support from the federal government, then.

They never did - you're making connections when there aren't even dots.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Give me link to evidence of them saying that disaster relief was unacceptable means of support from the federal government, then.

They never did - you're making connections when there aren't even dots.
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There are plenty of dots. I see them all over the place..... Oops, never mind. My glasses were dirty. :mrgreen:
 
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