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Why does the cradle to grave Denmark come to mind whenever I read your posts.
You seem so appauled by people being free to do pretty much what they want. You want them all under control, going and coming on the schedule of someone else, and using only government approved light bulbs.

you drive around using govt approved gasoline, the power plants that bring electricity to your house are govt approved, your trucks engine is designed to burn cleaner based on govt rules.....the food you eat is grown under govt rules.....need I go on?
Fact is, if we let the corporate world run around without any rules, many of us would have short and brutal lives, just like serfs and peasants did a few hundred years ago, and that was done with approval of the church !!!
Somebody hands you a rose and all you notice is a thorn.....
 
Why does the cradle to grave Denmark come to mind whenever I read your posts.
You seem so appauled by people being free to do pretty much what they want. You want them all under control, going and coming on the schedule of someone else, and using only government approved light bulbs.

Denmark huh? Think Germany. Everything you hypothesize is wrong. I want you free, no control, no light bulbs. Want to guess again? America will continue it's fall thanks to Capitalism, and the crazy idea we shouldn't do anything until the demand is in critical state, and we have to subsidize some corporation to patch it. We are so far behind the world they have to pump us sunlight.
 
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Issuing a warning doesn't give the claim legitimacy. Certainly oil is not a renewable energy source in the sense that it does not get regularly produced in nature to replace what has been used, but that does not mean the Peak Oil narrative is legitimate.

All the world's experts say we are approaching the end of cheap oil. What do you have to refute the world's experts, other than the unsubstantiated opinion you provided here?
 
Denmark huh? Think Germany. Everything you hypothesize is wrong. I want you free, no control, no light bulbs. Want to guess again? America will continue it's fall thanks to Capitalism, and the crazy idea we shouldn't do anything until the demand is in critical state, and we have to subsidize some corporation to patch it. We are so far behind the world they have to pump us sunlight.

If we fall it will be because of socialism and a lack of the free market. Thank God, I think we woke up in time to stop it before it's too late.
 
no. Obama (and congressional democrats) policies have necessitated huge bond-purchases by the FED, which is destroying the dollar. Oil is sold in dollars, so as the dollar goes down, oil goes up.

if Obama created the problem than how could it have been a problem before Obama was even elected?

From the 2001 report from Bush's energy task force:

"That Americans face long-term situations such as frequent sporadic shortages of energy, energy price

volatility, and higher energy prices is not the fault of President Bush. The failure to fashion a workable

energy policy rests at the feet of both Democrats and Republicans. Both major political parties allowed

energy policy to drift despite its centrality to America’s domestic economy and to nation security. Energy

policy was permitted to drift even though oil price spikes proceeded virtually every American recession

since the late 1940s. The American people must know about this situation and be told as well that there

are no easy or quick solutions to today’s energy problems.
The president has to begin education the public

about this reality and start building a broad base of popular support for the hard policy choices ahead."
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All the world's experts say we are approaching the end of cheap oil. What do you have to refute the world's experts, other than the unsubstantiated opinion you provided here?

The experts were saying the same thing back when we were worried about an ice age from Global cooling.
 
If we fall it will be because of socialism and a lack of the free market. Thank God, I think we woke up in time to stop it before it's too late.

Good thing we don't have any of that in America :lol:
 
Anyone who thinks we have a shortage of socialists in this country doesn't read DP:lol:
 
So far I've yet to see a viable alternative.

Have you heard of public transportation before? Or bicylces? Or those things at the bottom of your legs. The US uses 25% of the planet's oil. If were to decide to be less wasteful (like most of the rest of the world) demand would lower and so would prices.

An electric car that can only go 40 miles at 50MPH after an 8 hour charge.

The majority of drivers commute less than 40 miles each day.

And how exactly is that electricity being made, again? solar ain't cuttin' it yet, either.

You are not knowledgable about solar systems. I have a 1.5 KW solar panel system that will pay for itself in 7 years. The remainer of the 25 year life of the panels produces free electricity from the :sun !!!
 
McCain's an idiot. Scroll down and check out the pictures and maps of ANWR. The ones that environmentalists show and where the actual drilling is are a sharp contrast.

Drilling for oil in ANWAR-Truth! & Disputed!

Who did you vote for, if not McCain?

You don't understand how the world oil market works do you?

"Doug Holtz-Eakin, the White House’s Chief Economist under Bush, joined MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Tuesday to discuss the problem of rising gas prices."

" MATTHEWS: If we were taking apart the ANWR and drilling everywhere, would the price of gas be much different? In the world market, since this all fungible, if we were doing all that here in the United States, would the price of gas be much different? I‘m just asking that question.

HOLTZ-EAKIN: No, he can‘t change the price very much. So, I mean, he‘s trying to do things—

MATTHEWS: But the conservatives are saying all you have to do is pump like—all you got to do is drill like—Pawlenty said, just got at this, dig, dig, and dig, drill, drill, and drill, and somehow the price of the gas is going to down on the world market. You‘re saying that‘s not true?

HOLTZ-EAKIN: Well, I mean, you can‘t change the oil price very much with the U.S. exploration. It certainly can‘t change it quickly. We know that. And I think Republicans have been honest about that."

"Holtz-Eakin is correct that increased oil and gas drilling won’t lower gas prices because the amount of extra oil produced is minuscule compared to consumption. Indeed, any extra oil the U.S. managed to produce would be quickly offset by a cut in OPEC production. “This drill drill drill thing is tired,” said the Oil Price Information Service’s chief oil analyst Tom Kloza. “It’s a simplistic way of looking for a solution that doesn’t exist.” The idea that “Republicans have been honest about that”, however, leaves something (like veracity) to be desired.

ThinkProgress » Bush Economist Schools Bush, Republicans: Domestic Oil Drilling Won’t Lower Gas Prices
 
The experts were saying the same thing back when we were worried about an ice age from Global cooling.

BS!! Show me this supposed consensus of experts about an ice age from Global cooling? :sun
 
If we fall it will be because of socialism and a lack of the free market. Thank God, I think we woke up in time to stop it before it's too late.

So tell us why the free market hasn't put in mass transit? Tell us how capitalism has stopped the fall?
 
newsweek, april 28, 1975, "The Cooling World:"

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

Newsweek on the cooling world
 
vote obama, 2012!

stop cars---and capitalism---in their tracks!

LOL!
 
Don't know all of them, yet, but I know that a few of them generate bile in the pits of conservative stomachs.....
Cain, no
West, maybe
Bachman, hell no
Pawlenty, no
Santorum, no
Romney, maybe
Try a Romney West ticket, with either in top slot...

Get ready for Daniels.

Mitch Daniels Readies For Announcement

Mitch Daniels Executive Career as Governor of Indiana is Impressive. When Daniels took office, the state had an $800-million deficit. He turned that into a $1.3-billion surplus. He reduced the growth in government from over 5% a year to 2.8% a year, and reduced the state workforce by 18%. He cut property taxes and moved to shift the state onto a consumption tax. The state of Indiana is now sitting on a nice big fat emergency fund, and as other states are increasingly desperate to cover increasingly dangerous budget gaps, Indiana is trying to figure out how to refund it's tax surplus back to the taxpayers.

he's also successfully demonstrated how to reform healthcare with Indiana's state employees: Hoosiers and HSA's

...The HSA option has proven highly popular. This year, over 70% of our 30,000 Indiana state workers chose it, by far the highest in public-sector America... State employees enrolled in the consumer-driven plan will save more than $8 million in 2010 compared to their coworkers in the old-fashioned preferred provider organization (PPO) alternative. In the second straight year in which we've been forced to skip salary increases, workers switching to the HSA are adding thousands of dollars to their take-home pay... In a time of severe budgetary stress, Indiana will save at least $20 million in 2010 because of our high HSA enrollment. Mercer calculates the state's total costs are being reduced by 11% solely due to the HSA option..

and now he's reforming entitlements in his state in the sameway: Medicaid Meets Health Savings Accounts in Indiana. The CATO guys are furious because they're worried that Daniels Reforms will work TOO well:

...I support HSAs because they allow workers to reclaim control over a portion of their health-care dollars, and I support expanding them so workers can control all their health-care dollars. Within the context of Medicaid, however, the advantages of HSAs are actually a problem. Medicaid is welfare. By offering Medicaid enrollees the freedom and opportunity for wealth accumulation that HSAs create, the Daniels plan makes Medicaid more attractive...

In addition, Daniels pulled off what took Walker a month and a nightmare on his very first day in office. He just passed a state-wide school voucher program, is set to end Medicaid coverage for Planned Parenthood, in a move that will leave Indiana with some of the nations' tightest restrictions on Abortion.


Gosh, what a hard core, conservative right winger, right? Sure he's awesome, but he could never win, certainly he's turned off the moderates, the independents, and so forth?


Nope. Daniels won reelection in 2008 - the year of the Democratic sweep - by 18 points, even as his state voted for Obama He picked up 20% of the black vote and won the under-30 vote by 7 points.
 
So tell us why the free market hasn't put in mass transit? Tell us how capitalism has stopped the fall?

easy. because the free market responds to what the people want; and - by and large - the American people want to drive cars.
 
Anyone who thinks we have a shortage of socialists in this country doesn't read DP:lol:

I think there are maybe two or three socialists here. By your logic, there must be almost as many libertarians as liberals and conservatives, just like at DP.
 
Denmark huh? Think Germany. Everything you hypothesize is wrong. I want you free, no control, no light bulbs. Want to guess again? America will continue it's fall thanks to Capitalism, and the crazy idea we shouldn't do anything until the demand is in critical state, and we have to subsidize some corporation to patch it. We are so far behind the world they have to pump us sunlight.

Germany is getting a taste of their Bismarkian boondoggle. They're now the welfare state for the EU, and they ain't liking it because they themselves are up to their eyes in hawk.

America's rise was due to limited government. Look at what happened in the 50 short years since we began abandoning it for Eurosocialist idiocy.

If we went back to limited government and got the beast off our backs we'd do fine. Too bad they didn't leave well enough alone 50-years ago.

Capitalism is the way out of this mess.

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All the world's experts say we are approaching the end of cheap oil. What do you have to refute the world's experts, other than the unsubstantiated opinion you provided here?

the worlds' experts have been saying this since the 1890's. I think we'll be fine.

if Obama created the problem than how could it have been a problem before Obama was even elected?

Obama didn't create cheap money, deficit spending, or the relative non-exploitation of our own resources. He merely accelerated these things way beyond sustainability.
 
Get ready for Daniels.

Mitch Daniels Readies For Announcement

Mitch Daniels Executive Career as Governor of Indiana is Impressive. When Daniels took office, the state had an $800-million deficit. He turned that into a $1.3-billion surplus. He reduced the growth in government from over 5% a year to 2.8% a year, and reduced the state workforce by 18%. He cut property taxes and moved to shift the state onto a consumption tax. The state of Indiana is now sitting on a nice big fat emergency fund, and as other states are increasingly desperate to cover increasingly dangerous budget gaps, Indiana is trying to figure out how to refund it's tax surplus back to the taxpayers.

he's also successfully demonstrated how to reform healthcare with Indiana's state employees: Hoosiers and HSA's



and now he's reforming entitlements in his state in the sameway: Medicaid Meets Health Savings Accounts in Indiana. The CATO guys are furious because they're worried that Daniels Reforms will work TOO well:



In addition, Daniels pulled off what took Walker a month and a nightmare on his very first day in office. He just passed a state-wide school voucher program, is set to end Medicaid coverage for Planned Parenthood, in a move that will leave Indiana with some of the nations' tightest restrictions on Abortion.


Gosh, what a hard core, conservative right winger, right? Sure he's awesome, but he could never win, certainly he's turned off the moderates, the independents, and so forth?


Nope. Daniels won reelection in 2008 - the year of the Democratic sweep - by 18 points, even as his state voted for Obama He picked up 20% of the black vote and won the under-30 vote by 7 points.

a very, very serious post

daniels is a serious man

you must have been watching him pretty closely for awhile

altho you have a link pointing to daniels ENDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING on his second day in office, folks who don't open your sources might not explicitly take away the knowledge

a masterful post, thanks for putting it all together
 
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