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Obama to speak on birth certificate

BDBoop said:
Yes, I do. Of course you disagree, and since I couldn't pick you out of the proverbial lineup, that's neither here nor there.

There is a good-sized segment of the American population that was and always will be embarrassed by Bush. We practically cried tears of joy to have an intelligent, quick-witted, well-spoken representative in the Oval Office after the 2008 election.
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The same can be said about Obama
 
ptif219 said:
There is no proof if all records are sealed
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I wonder why some of the brain trust didn't ask Harvard Law School News Coordinator, Emily Dupraz?If they did they would have had the answer,but of course it wouldn't not have been the answer they were wanting to hear.

I guess that could be their reason for not inquiring eh?:roll:
 
xpiher said:
The supreme court ruled that if YOUR MOTHER is a US citizen, you are US citizen. And the birth certificate shows he was born in the US. Give it up already.
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It did no such thing . Where do you get this crap from?

House Report No. 784, dated June 22, 1874, stated, “The United States have not recognized a ‘double allegiance.’ By our law a citizen is bound to be ‘true and faithful’ alone to our government.” It wouldn’t be practical for the United States to claim a child as a citizen when the child’s natural country of origin equally claims him/her because doing so would leave the child with competing legal obligations
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Under British law at the time of Obams birth he was a british citizen.

Hes OUT

Natural-Born Citizen Defined

One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.

Under the laws of nature, every child born requires no act of law to establish the fact the child inherits through nature his/her father’s citizenship as well as his name (or even his property) through birth. This law of nature is also recognized by law of nations. Sen. Howard said the citizenship clause under the Fourteenth Amendment was by virtue of “natural law and national law.”

The advantages of Natural Law is competing allegiances between nations are not claimed, or at least with those nations whose custom is to not make citizens of other countries citizens without their consent. Any alternations or conflicts due to a child’s natural citizenship are strictly a creature of local municipal law. In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”
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SCOTUS cannot rule on this as it is not a US law. It s above the law like our rights.

Conclusion

Extending citizenship to non-citizens through birth based solely upon locality is nothing more than mere municipal law that has no extra-territorial effect as proven from the English practice of it. On the other hand, citizenship by descent through the father is natural law and is recognized by all nations (what nation doesn’t recognize citizenship of children born wherever to their own citizens?). Thus, a natural-born citizen is one whose citizenship is recognized by law of nations rather than mere local recognition.

Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, James F. Wilson of Iowa, confirmed this in 1866: “We must depend on the general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations for a definition, and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except that of children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments.”*

When a child inherits the citizenship of their father they become a natural-born citizen of the nation their father belongs regardless of where they might be born. It should be pointed out that citizenship through descent of the father was recognized by U.S. Naturalization law whereby children became citizens themselves as soon as their father had become a naturalized citizen.In a nation that has abandoned the English tradition of “perpetual allegiance” to the King upon birth for the principal of expatriation, the requirement of preexisting allegiance of the father can be the only method for a child to be born into the allegiance of the nation, and thus, a natural-born citizen.
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Game set match

Now you give it up

Defining Natural-Born Citizen
Defining Natural-Born Citizen

I see the libs have you off on another wild goose chase while the truth stares you all in the face.

Like I said even he knows it
At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”

To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”
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donc said:
I wonder why some of the brain trust didn't ask Harvard Law School News Coordinator, Emily Dupraz?If they did they would have had the answer,but of course it wouldn't not have been the answer they were wanting to hear.

I guess that could be their reason for not inquiring eh?:roll:
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There is no proof if the records are sealed
 
ptif219 said:
There is no proof if the records are sealed
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In the world of “ptif219”what constitutes proof? In the world of “ptif219” world is Bin Ladin still alive and kicken?:shock:
 
ptif219,s out scouting for a good spot for planting the next birther goalpost as we speak.:mrgreen:
 
Grant said:
A 'righty loser' is a contradiction in terms.
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So you are biased, and lack the ability to be subjective,......in other words, a waste of time.
 
donc said:
In the world of “ptif219”what constitutes proof? In the world of “ptif219” world is Bin Ladin still alive and kicken?:shock:
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Records sealed means no proof, what is Obama hiding?
 
donc said:
ptif219,s out scouting for a good spot for planting the next birther goalpost as we speak.:mrgreen:
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No just waiting for the transparency since in 2 years we have seen none
 
ptif219 said:
Records sealed means no proof, what is Obama hiding?
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We've established that Harvard News Coordinator, Emily Dupraz,confirms Obama's magna cum laude.What records would you like to see?

More important, what do you thing he is hiding that would affect the job he is doing as President of the United States?

After all, under his watch the killer of over three thousand of American Citizens was dealt justice that eight years of a President(whose military records were "accidentally" destroyed:roll:) and two wars couldn’t get done.:2wave:
 
donc said:
We've established that Harvard News Coordinator, Emily Dupraz,confirms Obama's magna cum laude.What records would you like to see?

More important, what do you thing he is hiding that would affect the job he is doing as President of the United States?

After all, under his watch the killer of over three thousand of American Citizens was dealt justice that eight years of a President(whose military records were "accidentally" destroyed:roll:) and two wars couldn’t get done.:2wave:
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A liberal supporting what Obama says I am impressed. Now open the records and prove it
 
Penrod said:
It did no such thing . Where do you get this crap from?



Under British law at the time of Obams birth he was a british citizen.

Hes OUT



SCOTUS cannot rule on this as it is not a US law. It s above the law like our rights.



Game set match

Now you give it up

Defining Natural-Born Citizen
Defining Natural-Born Citizen

I see the libs have you off on another wild goose chase while the truth stares you all in the face.

Like I said even he knows it
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House reports and things random government officials said are not law.

If it's not in a law or in a court decision, it's an opinion.
 
Deuce said:
House reports and things random government officials said are not law.

If it's not in a law or in a court decision, it's an opinion.
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When I was in the Marine Corps Deuce, we had a saying that ten percent of whatever group will not get the word. That is our birther contingent, always Stuck On Stupid,SOS for short.:2wave:
 
donc said:
When I was in the Marine Corps Deuce, we had a saying that ten percent of whatever group will not get the word. That is our birther contingent, always Stuck On Stupid,SOS for short.:2wave:
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Funny how the only Illinois senate records missing are Obama's
 
donc said:
Why all the links, don’t you have an original thought? In your own words tell me what you think is missing that affects his competency for the job of President Of the United States.
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Everything we know almost nothing about Obama. This is one of the most secretive presidents and he runs a very secretive and tight lipped administration. There is absolutely no transparency just huge walls Obama hides behind.
 
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