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Obama to speak on birth certificate

megrimlock said:
You claimed he was "the most secretive president in history" That's not a negative, nor did you ever provide proof on what makes him so clandestine and sinister, other than the fact that he won't obey the every whims of a bunch of angry crazies.
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Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?
 
ptif219 said:
You prove it it is a positve not a negative. I have not said he was not born here i just want to know why he has sealed his whole life's history.
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He released his birth certificate before and Birthers didn't think that was sufficient. Now, he's released his long form birth certificate and SURPRISE, many don't find that sufficient either.
 
SheWolf said:
What is your definition of transparent... he is the only president to be asked and challenged to release his birth certificate.
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He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing
 
ptif219 said:
Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?
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Can you name another president who has been under this much scrutiny to prove that he is an American citizen?
 
bicycleman said:
It's a fake. It has his father's race as African. Race wasn't depicted as African back in 1961. In 1961, his father's race would have been written as negro or black. Let's see if the ink is dry yet.
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I was about to like this because I thought it was a joke. Then I realized it was serious.
 
ptif219 said:
He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing
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And that is his perogative. Again, I think we are dealing with far more important issues in this country than what our president's education records are or seeing his long form birth certificate to prove that he's an American citizen. Conspiracy theorists scramble for justifications of their loony theories and this issue is no different.
 
bicycleman said:
It's a fake. It has his father's race as African. Race wasn't depicted as African back in 1961. In 1961, his father's race would have been written as negro or black. Let's see if the ink is dry yet.
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Ok, so this is the birther defense now?

I guess that's good to know
 
ptif219 said:
He has sealed all education records and his illinois senate records are missing
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Do you think he is the only president to seal some of his records?
 
Hatuey said:
You're losing credibility by the minute. Obama's first executive order did the exact opposite of what you say it did:

Obama's First Executive Order - What Obama's First Executive Order Really Said



The part in bold is the one you want to take a closer look instead of reading blogs. Do you understand what the verb 'to rescind' means?



If you read the full executive order here is what it says:



The order makes it harder for former presidents and Obama himself to claim executive priviledge.
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Ptif. Would appreciate it if you answered this post. Thanks!
 
SheWolf said:
Ok, so this is the birther defense now?

I guess that's good to know
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Well, that's one. In the video that American posted, they were claiming it must be a fake because the PDF file contained layers. I'm sure more will arise as time goes on.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Can you name another president who has been under this much scrutiny to prove that he is an American citizen?
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Their hero Trump hasn't released his tax return yet... what has trump released? Nothing that I know of...
 
ptif219 said:
Can you name another president that has sealed all records and his state government records are missing?
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he didn't seal them:

Barack Obama's records at Occidental remain sealed under the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Rights Act, which applies to all students. Unless Obama gives Occidental permission to release his record, it is illegal for them to do so, and Obama has not given Occidental permission, according to Tranquada.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-claims-obamas-college-transcripts-reveal-in/
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Well, that's one. In the video that American posted, they were claiming it must be a fake because the PDF file contained layers. I'm sure more will arise as time goes on.
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This is kind of funny...
 
I guess the birthers are desperate... They are saying anything.
 
megrimlock said:
Because all of these things were just perfect when he took office and are all competly his fault.
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Lets see debt has almost doubled. Gas has doubled in price unemployment is almost 10% need more
 
ptif219 said:
Lets see debt has almost doubled. Gas has doubled in price unemployment is almost 10% need more
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Again, was it his fault? you're skipping the question.
 
SheWolf said:
He released two versions of his birth certificate, I'd say he's the most transparent president ever... based on your def of transparency
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No he is not. All aspects of his life are either sealed or missing
 
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