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Obama to speak on birth certificate

I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to show FINALLYshow his real birth

certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.

Crow...never change man, never change :2razz:
 
People were discussing the "birther" issue before the election. Jerome Corsi's book came out before the election (months before) and discusses the issue of Obama's legitimacy to run. I'm betting that McCain and Clinton's lag in the polls led to their lack of desire to pursue the issue. If they wasted too many resources on it then it would likely deter any gains they were hoping to get through other campaign avenues.
while there may have been rumblings about his citizenship, the fact that operatives for Clinton and for the Republican party, found nothing worth mentioning, tells me that they knew the 'rumblings' had no legs, that they could find nothing to prove said 'rumblings', and did not wish to appear 'foolish' by bringing the issue to the forefront, and having their asses handed to them when he provided the forms...that this has been made an issue now tells me that those who have been pushing this are playing to the part of the electorate that is , to put it nicely, IGNORANT, those who don't do their due dilligence, and do their own research...they are hoping that the only thing those people remember in 2012 is 'obama not a citizen', and not the fact that this has been disproved.
 
I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to FINALLYshow his real birth certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.

Seriously? None of this is his fault. He showed what was required of him and people just bitched and moaned. Hell he went a step farther and showed them something else and now they are bitching and moaning about something else. There is just no way to please these people.
 
You're kidding right? you can't be serious.

You losers voted for a man who showed no proof of eligibility.

You damaged our Constitution.

You called heroes kooks and racists.

You all should be disgusted with yourselves!

How about this.....change your lean to conservative, or very conservative because I haven't seen too many things you've said that are anything but far-right rhetoric. Welcome home!! LOL
 
See, that's the thing. YOU say there never was an issue...that there still isn't an issue. Yet the most powerful man in the world knuckled under to what amounts to gossip and released exactly what they were looking for -- the long form. If there wasn't an issue, then ask yourself why the President of the United States is responding to gossip. Will he come out next to assure us he's not racist? (Judging by this thread, that just might be his next move. ;) )

Trump wasn't playing to birthers. He raised a legitimate question. "Why won't he release his long form birth certificate?" And way too many people were suddenly sayin', "Yeah!! Why not??"

Good point. When the world's economy is going into the tank, the Middle East is about to implode and forces are at work to take working class money and lay it at the feet of the rich, and some people STILL regard stupid crap like this, gay marriage, and a plethora of other sideshow carnival barking distractions as actual "issues." I think it is merely a ploy to distract the rest of the populous from their own dismal political failures. Of course, you would be hard pressed convincing those sort of people. They seem to have their own perceptions of reality. I suppose I should count myself blessed that I am not one of the 24% who allow people to piss in their hair and make them believe it is raining. LOL!
 
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Seriously? None of this is his fault. He showed what was required of him and people just bitched and moaned. Hell he went a step farther and showed them something else and now they are bitching and moaning about something else. There is just no way to please these people.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, I know....some people are just incorrigible. :2razz:
 
Reasonable people have long regarded the birthers as political retards. And, that being said, I'm pretty sure there is no cure for retardation so I doubt this will have any effect on their line of thought.

What I am surprised about is how many retards there actually are. I figured 11-12%. You know, the Becksters, Limbaughnauts, Palinites. I was surprised to learn that there are a lot more stupid walking around out there than we realized.

And they all seem to make it onto this forum.
 
I am disappointed in Obama for caving to the demands of these moronic conspiracy theorists. By doing so, he has only made them feel validated. Even though it seems like this issue is put to rest, there will inevitably be a faction of Birthers who will continue to claim that the certificate is somehow invalid or whatever. In an effort to shut it down, he has only re-ignited the issue and given the Birthers validation that all they have to do is whine loud enough and they will get results.
 
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I am disappointed in Obama for caving to the demands of these moronic conspiracy theorists. By doing so, he has only made them feel validated. Even though it seems like this issue is put to rest, there will inevitably be a faction of Birthers who will continue to claim that the certificate is somehow invalid or whatever. In an effort to shut it down, he has only re-ignited the issue and given the Birthers validation that all they have to do is whine loud enough and they will get results.


And this fringe element will be enough for the fringe on the left to use it to attack the entire opposition to thier views.... round and round we go.
 
I am surprised that Obama didn't wait to show his birth certificate until the last day of his presidency.

Is ALL Obama's fault for a lot of people being birthers, and I bet that his wife gave him the idea to FINALLYshow his real birth certificate. The man doesn't have the brains to think for himself.

Sore loser perhaps? LOL!
 
I am disappointed in Obama for caving to the demands of these moronic conspiracy theorists. By doing so, he has only made them feel validated. Even though it seems like this issue is put to rest, there will inevitably be a faction of Birthers who will continue to claim that the certificate is somehow invalid or whatever. In an effort to shut it down, he has only re-ignited the issue and given the Birthers validation that all they have to do is whine loud enough and they will get results.

Maybe those folks took their cue from union supporters?
 
To all the people who are saying "I am disappointed in Obama" or "Obama shouldn't have caved in" or "Obama showed his BC! haha we win you lose!"

Ya'll need to get a life. Personally, this whole BC issue is so ****ing trivial compared to everything else. I think our country kinda has bigger things to worry about.
 
I am disappointed in Obama for caving to the demands of these moronic conspiracy theorists. By doing so, he has only made them feel validated. Even though it seems like this issue is put to rest, there will inevitably be a faction of Birthers who will continue to claim that the certificate is somehow invalid or whatever. In an effort to shut it down, he has only re-ignited the issue and given the Birthers validation that all they have to do is whine loud enough and they will get results.

I think the issue was gaining so much popularity that it had to be addressed. I think he should have waited a bit longer to let the GOP candidates have their say on it and then just show it. It would have hurt their credibility.
 
And this fringe element will be enough for the fringe on the left to use it to attack the entire opposition to thier views.... round and round we go.

Exactly. He would have been fine if he had continued to ignore the issue and treat it as invalid as it deserved to be treated. This only gave it validation. It gets so ****ing old.
 
To all the people who are saying "I am disappointed in Obama" or "Obama shouldn't have caved in" or "Obama showed his BC! haha we win you lose!"

Ya'll need to get a life. Personally, this whole BC issue is so ****ing trivial compared to everything else. I think our country kinda has bigger things to worry about.



Whatcha gonna do when barackamania comes runnin for you!
 
Exactly. He would have been fine if he had continued to ignore the issue and treat it as invalid as it deserved to be treated. This only gave it validation. It gets so ****ing old.


i still think it would be something for him to whip it out in a debate... I'd give him much credit for that move. :lol:
 
I am disappointed in Obama for caving to the demands of these moronic conspiracy theorists. By doing so, he has only made them feel validated. Even though it seems like this issue is put to rest, there will inevitably be a faction of Birthers who will continue to claim that the certificate is somehow invalid or whatever. In an effort to shut it down, he has only re-ignited the issue and given the Birthers validation that all they have to do is whine loud enough and they will get results.

Where did the like button go?
 
To all the people who are saying "I am disappointed in Obama" or "Obama shouldn't have caved in" or "Obama showed his BC! haha we win you lose!"

Ya'll need to get a life. Personally, this whole BC issue is so ****ing trivial compared to everything else. I think our country kinda has bigger things to worry about.

We do have bigger issues, which is why he shouldn't have even acknowledged it. That's my entire point.
 
I think the issue was gaining so much popularity that it had to be addressed. I think he should have waited a bit longer to let the GOP candidates have their say on it and then just show it. It would have hurt their credibility.

The only reason it seemed to be gaining popularity is because Donald Trump made it seem like it was a bigger issue by even bringing it up in the first place. By mentioning it, he also gave it validation. Obama just sealed the deal.
 
i still think it would be something for him to whip it out in a debate... I'd give him much credit for that move. :lol:

I would have given him more credit if he would have waited until the debate to even address the issue.
 
The only reason it seemed to be gaining popularity is because Donald Trump made it seem like it was a bigger issue by even bringing it up in the first place. By mentioning it, he also gave it validation. Obama just sealed the deal.

I agree. I think that if he ignored it, then the issue could shoot him in the vote and if he addresses it he shoots himself in the foot. I would have rather him go with the maybe choice than the choice he did make. But the President does seem to cave to things, so I am not that surprised.
 
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