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Obama to speak on birth certificate

theplaydrive said:
You said Obama called you a racist, then you said Obama accused all white people of sharing his grandmother's racism. But in none of his quotes did he accuse his grandmother, you or white people of racism. FAIL. You played the racism card and it got you nowhere. Too bad, so sad.
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I can no more disown [Rev. Dr. Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
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The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society. We have to break through it..." - Senator Barack Obama
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I think these are what Rev was thinking about.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
All I've heard from the right is that Obama's hiding his records because they prove he wasn't born in Hawaii. He's hiding his birth certificate because it shows he's a Moslem. He's hiding his school records because they prove he was granted funds as a foreigner. He's hiding his records because he got bad grades, etc., etc., etc.

Releasing the long form puts that to rest.

It's done. Get over it. He was born in Hawaii and he's not hiding anything. He played the birfers for the fools they are, kudos to him.
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Now lets see all his records after all he said he would be transparent yet all we have seen is secrecy
 
MrVicchio said:
HAHAHA. I'm more then amused that it took the Donald to force him to produce this. FINALLY. Damn now that's settled. End of issue. (Obama could have saved us all years of annoyance by doing this earlier).
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No! Not the end of the issue. Obama needs to be charged with a big fat felony.

I'm the lord Royal King of the "Jailers". Racists and kooks who think Obama needs to be seriously reprimanded.
 
theplaydrive said:
Haha yeah. People of all races do that all the time - which is why I assume he said "our" instead of "their" prejudices. He was pointing out a reality. No big deal.
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We are racially mixed in my family too... All races do it to each other, I agree. People see some "brown guys" park a car outside a gas station and they called the police. It turns out the car was broke down, and they weren't terrorists.
 
Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

MaggieD said:
The only group of people who had the authority to question the President on this issue was the Congress of the United States. Obama should have never released that information -- unless he released it at the very beginning of the controversy...which is probably what he should have done. It was a bad decision to release it now. To say that those who think it was a bad decision have lost shreds of credibility and integrity is hyperbole to the max. (I love hyperbole, by the way.) The Office of the President of the United States is more important than the man. He blew it big time.
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Repeating for emphasis......Swiftboat.
 
SheWolf said:
I don't think we are attacking you... Talking about race is an sensitive topic, and you're blasting him because you think he looks racist. When people usually talk about race, it isn't uncommon to misunderstand what each other, or think something is racist and that's not the other person's intentions.

Other times people say racist stuff, and they don't understand it's racist.

I really don't think the president is racist... Do you honestly think he is racist? He was raised by his white mother, and he talks about her with love and respect. I think he honors her memory, and he hasn't created any racist policies.
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Black Panther Party.




President Obama: Hello, Eric?...

Holder: Yes Mr. President...Good morning.

President Obama: Look, this issue with the BPP, in Philly?..

Holder: Yes sir?...

President Obama: Drop it

Holder: But...

President Obama: Drop it Eric, I need them later....

j-mac
 
theplaydrive said:
It's not settled - apparently some posters are here are ready to file criminal charges against him, although I'm still not sure what for.
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The remaining issue is his fathers nationality, "African" which some will attempt to hammer as bestowing "dual citizenship" thus disqualifying him for the Office. While there ARE legal merits to discussing the issue, in the end... His mother was 18, he was born on American Soil...

It kinda wraps that up.

Now had he been born in another country, THEN he'd be disqualified because his mothers age/time of residency issues.


However, it took the Donald to make this happen. Corsi's book publisher is probably very very sad today.
 
MrVicchio said:
However, it took the Donald to make this happen. Corsi's book publisher is probably very very sad today.
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I doubt it. There was probably a spike in sales by some after this whole thing started with Trump.
 
Boo Radley said:
If you only question a person of color, no one else ever, it does raise the question. There was never any reason to question him, and to old to this nonsense despite overwhelming evidence, . . . well . . . it more than begs the question as to why?
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He is as much white as black and since he came from a white womb some cultures would say he is more white than black
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Why the **** does this matter now?
Do you want to count his toes? Find out how many fillings in his teeth he has had? How about how many times he has had sex? How many cigarettes he smoked in his life? What parties he went to during college? What else you wanna know? What was his first car as a child? What was his allowence in elementary school?
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What is he hiding
 
zimmer said:
Obama wasn't laughing when Trump slammed down the gauntlet and forced Obama's hand. If Trump were a joke, Obama would be laughing... he's not. Trump trumped Obama and Axelrod, then to make sure they got the message, jabbed his fingers in Obama's eyes by taking credit and claiming it a proud moment.

On the way he lofted some good shots at the press for failing to do their jobs. All the antagonists on the left have their long knives out... they better watch they don't go tripping down the stairs and impaling themselves like Sr. Lawrence Olivier in Marathon Man.

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You have a reference for where Obama is going to make a statement because Trump brought it up?? Or that Obama thinks Trump is a joke? Or even cares about Trump?
 
StillBallin75 said:
Love how every damn member of the forum is viewing this thread
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Most of them aren't posting though, so I assume they are awestruck since all the smartest and coolest posters are on this forum arguing back and forth... :)
 
Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

Cardinal said:
Repeating for emphasis......Swiftboat.
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Why don't you post what you mean instead of making me look it up? Or don't you not have a clear understanding of the term? BTW, was Kerry the President of the United States? It's the office -- not the man in jeopardy here. A dangerous precedent has been set.
 
ptif219 said:
He is as much white as black and since he came from a white womb some cultures would say he is more white than black
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Not to mention, some questioned McCain's eligbility because he was apparently born in Panama...
 
ptif219 said:
The fool is the one who did not show the birth certificate in the beginning
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He did, you moron. The birth certificate he showed was the one every Hawaiian gets when they request a birth certificate.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
He wasn't just, "asking questions," he was making accusations. False ones at that. Like claiming Obama's grandmother said he was born in Kenya when she never said that. Trump shoved his foot into his own mouth. Obama just poured dirt all over his foot to make it taste that much worse.
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Sounds like Trump learned well from Obama
 
SheWolf said:
Most of them aren't posting though, so I assume they are awestruck since all the smartest and coolest posters are on this forum arguing back and forth... :)
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This thread is pure entertainment.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
no I don't think he's racist. and in full disclosure, if Redress wanted to be honest, he would admit I said that numerous times during the span of time he is harrassing me over.
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I never claimed you said he was racist. Any more straw men?
 
Cardinal said:
To be fair, it's been claimed that one of Kerry's mistakes (besides being godawful uncharismatic and having a face that makes you want to start a prozac habit) is that he didn't proactively take on the swiftboat idiocy. Hysterically, he believed that if he ignored idiocy, it would be like ignoring an internet troll, thus depriving them of their source of power and making them go away. Didn't quite turn out that way.
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Swiftboat happened before the elections, not after.So its not even comparable.

Besides that with statements like this "The country doesn't know it yet, but it has created a monster, a monster in the form of millions of men who have been taught to deal and to trade in violence" after Vietnam it makes him look like what those in the military call a buddy ****er or Blue Falcon.
 
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Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

MaggieD said:
Why don't you post what you mean instead of making me look it up? Or don't you not have a clear understanding of the term? BTW, was Kerry the President of the United States? It's the office -- not the man in jeopardy here. A dangerous precedent has been set.
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I did respond in full, but you must have missed it. Not surprising seeing as every page in this thread gets filled in two minutes. Here it is.

"To be fair, it's been claimed that one of Kerry's mistakes (besides being godawful uncharismatic and having a face that makes you want to start a prozac habit) is that he didn't proactively take on the swiftboat idiocy. Hysterically, he believed that if he ignored idiocy, it would be like ignoring an internet troll, thus depriving them of their source of power and making them go away. Didn't quite turn out that way."

Point being, being president or merely running for president is entirely irrelevant. What is very relevant is that ignoring stupidity does not always work.
 
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