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Obama to speak on birth certificate

Sheik Yerbuti said:
That's complete bull****. Obama cleared this up 3 years ago when he posted his certification of live birth then. It's not his fault that birfers are so stupid, they couldn't accept it ... or the word of Hawaiian officials who also confirmed it.

They deserve all the ridicule they're going to receive over this ... as is Trump, who fell for birther lies and spread them, like saying Obama's grandmother said he was born in Kenya.
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I couldn't agree with you more.
 
The previously-released document was proof in a court of law of his American citizenship, and that document was already certified by the appropriate state officials as genuine. People who aren't convinced by proof in a court of law aren't going to be convinced by some other proof in a court of law.

You can't fight irrationality with empirical evidence.

What a waste of time.
 
j-mac said:
There you have it conservatives of all stripes....We are just stupid....but heaven forbid if a conservative ever tried to generalize the liberals as a whole.....Pfft....The real stupidity is shown in this post of yours liblady.

j-mac
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I would never say all. But there is a segment who support Palin and the birther silliness. Those folks are of questionable intellect. but don't worry, it isn't something limited to conservatives. Liberals and everyone inbetween have their share of foolish and stupid people.

:coffeepap
 
SheWolf said:
Then I expect you're going to vote for your hero Trump... lol

Nah, you probably know he has no chance in hell.

BTW... didn't he claim to go to Hawaii and investigate this? WTF was wrong with his intel?
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you just don't get it do you? Trump is a tard, a buffoon, an entertainer and he forced Obama to do something he has refused to do for over 2 years
 
In terms of politics, conservatives and conservative politicians are brilliant. They know how to bargain, how to play politics, and how to craft a great message machine. Call a conservative figure a racist or a Nazi and other conservatives will come together and tear that individual a new one. Call Obama a Muslim or a terrorist and he'll be like "Meh, I'm not gonna respond."
 
Re: White House releases Obama birth certificate

Zyphlin said:
Reading some of the comments on the Fox News story is hillarious and sad, and just shows me my guess that while this may reduce the amount of the birther movement that won't change the fact that tin foil hatters will keep on conspiring...
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That's pretty damn sad... and I just saw Trump on TV making comments like he isn't sure the birth certificate is real or not. I guess he is their leader... I am just wondering how many die hard bithers there are.
 
Boo Radley said:
I would never say all. But there is a segment who support Palin and the birther silliness. Those folks are of questionable intellect. but don't worry, it isn't something limited to conservatives. Liberals and everyone inbetween have their share of foolish and stupid people.

:coffeepap
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On this Boo we have some agreement, however I would ask what you mean by 'segment'

j-mac
 
SheWolf said:
The far righties still don't like Mitt, and he denounced the birthers. If Trump or another birther wins the GOP primary, it will completely turn off moderates.

All Trump is left to do now is talk about Obama's grades and petty BS... Trump is basically an annoying little fly now.
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I would love to be a fly on the wall at dinner with his kids.

He's brought shame and ridicule onto the Trump family name...

"...Great relationship with the blacks."

...and an even better one with xenophobes and bigots.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
I think this is the second time you did this. It's WEAK, not WEEK. Sheesh. LOL
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OK. I am speeling handecapped OK. give me a breek. You wouldn't make fun of me if I was blind would you?

What exactly does "OUCK" spell?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You really should pay attention. Trump is a clown, however that clown just made the POTUS bow to his demands. Obama looks like a bitch here.


as to the rest of whatever that is you posted.

1-800-Gambler, please.
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Then by your definition, the President was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. He couldn't win no matter what he did! To that, I totally disagree.

Look, you guys continued to insist that he show his long-form birth certificate. Would I have preferred that he did so without all the media-hype The Donald brought to the issue? Of course, but regardless of if he did so of his own accord or he was made to do it kickin' and screamin', the fact remains that there is no incriminating evidence on his birth certificate that would make him ineligible to be President of the United States. All the enuendo, the presumptions that maybe he had something to hide, that the records were doctored or missing can all be put to rest. Unfortunately, it won't be because as he and others who support him have said, "...they'll just move the goal post". You've just done so atleast once (Re: he's Donald Trump's bitch! I mean, really? :doh: )
 
sazerac said:
She most certainly did say that but then retracted. If you can't just accept that Trump was exactly right and that he is a national hero then you have serious jealousy issues.
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come on, then. prove she said obama was born in kenya. we're waiting, just like we waited for trump's crack team to prove obama was born in kenya.
 
Objective Voice said:
Then by your definition, the President was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. He couldn't win no matter what he did! To that, I totally disagree.
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That's exactly right, the "winning" would be him releasing it long ago. but I think he was holding it for the right time, it was a gamble that could have paid off, but trump short changed it.


Look, you guys continued to insist that he show his long-form birth certificate.
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I have never done any such thing. I am on record as stating I think he is an American citizen and his birth certificate shown in the past was proof. Sorry that dog don't hunt.


Would I have preferred that he did so without all the media-hype The Donald brought to the issue? Of course, but regardless of if he did so of his own accord or he was made to do it kickin' and screamin', the fact remains that there is no incriminating evidence on his birth certificate that would make him ineligible to be President of the United States. All the enuendo, the presumptions that maybe he had something to hide, that the records were doctored or missing can all be put to rest. Unfortunately, it won't be because as he and others who support him have said, "...they'll just move the goal post". You've just done so atleast once (Re: he's Donald Trump's bitch! I mean, really? :doh: )
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What goal post have I moved? I never claimed Obama was hiding anything. FAIL
 
liblady said:
come on, then. prove she said obama was born in kenya. we're waiting, just like we waited for trump's crack team to prove obama was born in kenya.
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Trump's team was trying to discover the truth, no matter what the truth was. I don't have an issue with that.
 
ptif219 said:
Problem is Obama looked stupid. He complained about the tea party. I did not know Trump was part of the tea party. Obama has tried to make a speech to forward him for the election but he comes off as petty arrogant and an elitist
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Looked stupid?!?!?!? I am shocked that you could come to this conclusion. Shocked!

Obama was proven 100% right on this. Birthers and their allies in the tea party movement and politicians who suck up to them were proven totally and completely wrong.

Petty & elitist? Amazing. You seem so blinded by pure ideological hate towards this man that you cannot even call this entire development with anything near objectivity.
 
hazlnut said:
The state of Hawaii doesn't release the long form publicly. A special exception had to be made.

The short form is THE legal document used in the state.

Trump is an idiot. The short form is a PROPER birth certificate.
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A special request was made by the President via his legal team approximately 5-days ago.
 
liblady said:
come on, then. prove she said obama was born in kenya. we're waiting, just like we waited for trump's crack team to prove obama was born in kenya.
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You mean his Grand mother?



j-mac
 
zimmer said:
Asking questions, doing the job the press should have done years ago costs one their credibility? ROTFLOL... not.

Trump's chances have increased should he want to run. I'd love to see Trump debate Obama... he'd squash the Marxist in a flash. The man who actually has run something vs. Obama who has only run his mouth... and the Harvard law review... ROTFLOL.

You know Trump wouldn't let Barack Hussein Obama II pull the lame assed crap he was able to get away with last time around. How do we know? He just took on Obama smash mouth, head on on this issue, one that should have been resolved years ago.

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I think Trump would just lose his temper...
 
Regardless of what ever you all think of this situation, this Presidency is historic in so many ways, especially in the catagory of having the first President of the United States with 'aka' after his name.

j-mac
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Folks like you cheapen the real issue of race relations in this country looking for racism where none exists.

the question arose from his parents life and travels and citizenry, his color was not of concern for all except the bigots on the left. Kudos for that. :roll:
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No, actually the right was accusing him of racism first.
 
sazerac said:
I accept the new certificate as legitimate proof of Obama's citizenship and eligibility to be president.

Believe it or not I am very relieved.
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Congratulations! You are the first "birther" I've seen admit it and accept the document on its face value. If all the rest of the crazies would do the same maybe we can move on to more important issues...
 
SheWolf said:
No, actually the right was accusing him of racism first.
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You should have seen Rev during the 2008 election campaigns. Race was a big part of his arguments, from Wright, to Obama's comments about his grandmother, and so on.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Do you think calling people tea baggers makes you look intelligent? seriously, don't be that guy.
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Calling yourself a teabagger makes you look like you have a sense of humor...
 
SheWolf said:
No, actually the right was accusing him of racism first.
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Well, his white grandmother in this country did act in a manner that in his mind was consistent with how white people react when approaching a group of black youth on the streets, and that was to cross the street...remember that little exercise in absurdity from the divider n chief??
 
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