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WI Democrats ready to submit signatures to recall 6th Republican senator

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It's not yet official, but it appears that number 6 is about to be up for a recall election. Keep them coming. Two to go. :applaud

Panel says it has enough signatures to recall Wisconsin state Sen. Rob Cowles | Appleton Post Crescent | postcrescent.com

Add state Sen. Rob Cowles to the growing list of senators a step closer to facing a recall election.

The Committee to Recall Cowles has enough signatures to initiate the next phase of the process and will file them with the Government Accountability Board on Thursday, Graeme Zielinski, a spokesman for the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, said Monday.

Committees already have submitted completed petitions for eight of the 16 eligible senators; Cowles would be the sixth Republican.
 
Talk to me when you're done crying.

A poll just recently came out that showed only 44 percent of Wisconsintes support recall of Walker and 51% are against.

How do you think those recalls of the republican senators are going to go in areas not including Milwaukee and Madison?

That's right. Not very well.
 
A poll just recently came out that showed only 44 percent of Wisconsintes support recall of Walker and 51% are against.

How do you think those recalls of the republican senators are going to go in areas not including Milwaukee and Madison?

That's right. Not very well.

I'd say they're going pretty well considering 6 Republicans are now up for recall. Oops. So sorry. Try again.
 
I'd say they're going pretty well considering 6 Republicans are now up for recall. Oops. So sorry. Try again.

I'm at least clued in enough to realize that just getting the signatures doesn't mean that a recall will happen. I'm also clued in enough to realize that dems won't capture control of the senate and, based on the Prosser election results, the dems have a good chance to win the Kepanke(R) seat and the hooper(R) seat (but that's probably more due to his personal issues) and the dems have a real chance of losing 3.
 
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A poll just recently came out that showed only 44 percent of Wisconsintes support recall of Walker and 51% are against.

How do you think those recalls of the republican senators are going to go in areas not including Milwaukee and Madison?

That's right. Not very well.

bunch of crybabies :ninja:
 
Most of the Democrat state senators supported all of the same cuts, so it's not like it will be much better. Even with collective bargaining reinstated, the unions will be severely hindered and the state will see the same draconian budget measures.

I'm not trying to hate on the movement against Walker and the Republicans, but people need to realize that this is class warfare and that the democrats are part of the problem and not the solution.
 
Most of the Democrat state senators supported all of the same cuts, so it's not like it will be much better. Even with collective bargaining reinstated, the unions will be severely hindered and the state will see the same draconian budget measures.

I'm not trying to hate on the movement against Walker and the Republicans, but people need to realize that this is class warfare and that the democrats are part of the problem and not the solution.

At least you have lots of homegrown beer to drink when things get screwed up in your state. Not a lot of states have that same benefit. Texas does. Shiner Bock, please. Oh yea, our beer is better than yours. Once you drink a Shiner Bock, you will never go back to that watered down crap you have in Milwaukee. :mrgreen:
 
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At least you have lots of homegrown beer to drink when things get screwed up in your state. Not a lot of states have that same benefit. Texas does. Shiner Bock, please. Oh yea, our beer is better than yours. Once you drink a Shiner Bock, you will never go back to that watered down crap you have in Milwaukee.

Every state has their own delicious local and regional beers. I'm not a fan of Bock beers, so have fun with that. As for Texas having better beer, you don't have New Glarus or Lakefront breweries so you really can't even say that.

As for watered down crap, most people I know here don't drink Miller unless it's going to a Brewer game and you want a ton of cheap beers to pound, same as anywhere else.

I got on the PBR train long before everyone else, and still drink it. It's lame that it became such a fad, I don't really get it, I don't think most people that drink it actually like it.
 
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Like I said. When someone is actually voted out, feel free to gloat. until then, you simply look silly.

I couldn't possibly look as silly as you look trying to act like this isn't significant. Let me know when you're done folding your arms and stomping your feet.
 
Every state has their own delicious local and regional beers. I'm not a fan of Bock beers, so have fun with that. As for Texas having better beer, you don't have New Glarus or Lakefront breweries so you really can't even say that.

As for watered down crap, most people I know here don't drink Miller unless it's going to a Brewer game and you want a ton of cheap beers to pound, same as anywhere else.

I got on the PBR train long before everyone else, and still drink it. It's lame that it became such a fad, I don't really get it, I don't think most people that drink it actually like it.

New Glarus Fat Squirrel. Sign me up for one of those please!
 
Care to back that up?

Here is a list of the senators that face recall, and how their district voted in the recent SC election that was turned into a proxy vote on Walker and the bill.

Sen. Randy Hopper (R) - Prosser 53% (has some personal issues with wife/girlfriend - possible recall)
Sen. Dan Kapanke (R) - Prosser 42% (likely to be recalled)
Sen. Sheila Harsdorf (R) - Prosser 49%
Sen. Robert Cowles (R) - Prosser 58%
Sen. Luther Olsen (R) - Prosser 55%
Sen. Alberta Darling (R) - Prosser 66%



Sen. Jim Holperin (D) - Prosser 55%
Sen. David Hansen (D) - Prosser 53%

Robert Wirch (D) - Prosser 49%
 
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Here is a list of the senators that face recall, and how their district voted in the recent SC election that was turned into a proxy vote on Walker and the bill.

Sen. Randy Hopper (R) - Prosser 53% (has some personal issues with wife/girlfriend - possible recall)
Sen. Dan Kapanke (R) - Prosser 42% (likely to be recalled)
Sen. Sheila Harsdorf (R) - Prosser 49%
Sen. Robert Cowles (R) - Prosser 58%
Sen. Luther Olsen (R) - Prosser 55%
Sen. Alberta Darling (R) - Prosser 66%



Sen. Jim Holperin (D) - Prosser 55%
Sen. David Hansen (D) - Prosser 53%

Robert Wirch (D) - Prosser 49%

That's a bit disingenuous. Prosser was leading by an astronomical amount before any of the union legislation happened. While it's possible that these numbers are an indicator of what might happen they are by no means a crystal ball. No WI SC justice has ever been elected out of office. That's not quite the case in the senate.
 
I'm at least clued in enough to realize that just getting the signatures doesn't mean that a recall will happen. I'm also clued in enough to realize that dems won't capture control of the senate and, based on the Prosser election results, the dems have a good chance to win the Kepanke(R) seat and the hooper(R) seat (but that's probably more due to his personal issues) and the dems have a real chance of losing 3.

They still have to be voted out, right?
The way the union thugs act with death threats and boycotts, I might sign the petitions too. They woundn't be there intimidating me I voted.
 
They still have to be voted out, right?
The way the union thugs act with death threats and boycotts, I might sign the petitions too. They woundn't be there intimidating me I voted.

Please cut the over the top hyperpartisan BS. You know as well as I do that although threats have been made that they are from the fringe. If you can provide evidence that the people obtaining signatures are being physically threatened, I will back down.
 
That's a bit disingenuous. Prosser was leading by an astronomical amount before any of the union legislation happened. While it's possible that these numbers are an indicator of what might happen they are by no means a crystal ball. No WI SC justice has ever been elected out of office. That's not quite the case in the senate.

You mean Prosser was winning by an astronomical amount prior to the unions turning the legislation into a referendum on Walker and the "anti-union" bill. Even after that occured and the unions spent so much money on getting the word out, they still lost in most of the districts in question.

I would expect recall elections to be fairly similar to the Prosser elections, with the caveat that democrats were very worked up in the SC election and turned out to vote. While I would assume democrats will be just as worked up for the recall elections, that doesn't really translate into too many more votes. Republicans were not really worked up in the last election, so they have quite a bit of room to grow turnout numbers in these areas.
 
You mean Prosser was winning by an astronomical amount prior to the unions turning the legislation into a referendum on Walker and the "anti-union" bill. Even after that occured and the unions spent so much money on getting the word out, they still lost in most of the districts in question.

I would expect recall elections to be fairly similar to the Prosser elections, with the caveat that democrats were very worked up in the SC election and turned out to vote. While I would assume democrats will be just as worked up for the recall elections, that doesn't really translate into too many more votes. Republicans were not really worked up in the last election, so they have quite a bit of room to grow turnout numbers in these areas.

But Prosser won by a MUCH smaller margin than predicted, against an opponent who practically unknown and all but guaranteed to lose. Now, I'm not saying that your prediction might not turn out to be right, but I think the situations are just a little too different to hold any real sway.
 
Please cut the over the top hyperpartisan BS. You know as well as I do that although threats have been made that they are from the fringe. If you can provide evidence that the people obtaining signatures are being physically threatened, I will back down.

There were quite a few stories in the WI papers about the initimidation that the republican signature gathers were under and the difficulties they had getting people that (allegedly) wanted to sign, but felt intimidated by the union protestors that formed "bloackades" around the signature gatheres.

The newstory that I am specifically thinking of went into details about the measures the gatheres had to take to fool the union guys into thinking they would be in one place, but would actualyl be in another. They would have to be constantly on the move to stay one step ahead of the protestors, since the protestors would eventually figure out where they were actually at.
 
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