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Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

Left field? Let's review.
Seems fairly straight forward to me. Where did I wander off to left field?... I thought my statements were pretty clear especially given that on page 1 I suggested that the person who gave the girl her phone and told her to split should be prosecuted as an accessory.
Personally, I think it's ridiculous on your part to assume that the McD employees were obligated to return the phone to the perps.

I have no idea why you would think that was what the McD employees should do.
I have no idea why you would think that I thought it was what the McD employees should do. [If that's what you're vainly trying to imply.]

I can only guess you were saying something really stupid because you think you were cleverly making some sort of point in opposition to whatever you imagine I was saying. But you're really not making a point at all. You're just posting non sequiturs that somehow are related to me only in your imagination.

If you would like to say whatever you're actually trying to say instead of trying to be clever by saying stupid thing, perhaps we could clear things up.
 
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I seem to recall an incident where a guy stopped a robbery and/or apprehended ths subject who threatening to hurt people. He was fired for it.

Yes, things like that happen and most places have rules against getting involved. However, there are times in life, you need to do what is right regardless of rules or the chance you'll get fired.
 
Personally, I think it's ridiculous on your part to assume that the McD employees were obligated to return the phone to the perps.

I have no idea why you would think that was what the McD employees should do.
I have no idea why you would think that I thought it was what the McD employees should do. [If that's what you're vainly trying to imply.]

I can only guess you were saying something really stupid because you think you were cleverly making some sort of point in opposition to whatever you imagine I was saying. But you're really not making a point at all. You're just posting non sequiturs that somehow are related to me only in your imagination.

If you would like to say whatever you're actually trying to say instead of trying to be clever by saying stupid thing, perhaps we could clear things up.

I was asking you if you thought they were obligated to give the phone back, because I thought that the simple act of doing so implied a "homeboy" type connection. You replied with "Do you think it's at all probable that the law obligates them to do that?", and I thought you were implying that IT DID. My apologies for taking that comment the wrong way.

So just to be clear: I was NOT suggesting that they were obligated, in fact quite the opposite. Sounds like we are on the same page now.

No need to get all pissy though.
 
Yes, things like that happen and most places have rules against getting involved. However, there are times in life, you need to do what is right regardless of rules or the chance you'll get fired.
I agree with that sentiment
 
I was asking you if you thought they were obligated to give the phone back, because I thought that the simple act of doing so implied a "homeboy" type connection. You replied with "Do you think it's at all probable that the law obligates them to do that?", and I thought you were implying that IT DID. My apologies for taking that comment the wrong way.
See, and I thought that was kind of a silly question. I couldn't imagine a reason why they would be obligated to do so given the situation. [I mean ordinarily, I would want an employee to help a patron with their belongings if they had left the belongings on accident.]

All I was addressing was the possibility of suing McD for what the employees did and/or did not do.
You can't sue them for not fulfilling duties they don't actually have.
I think it's reasonable to expect them to call the police right away. I think it's reasonable to expect them to go over and talk to or yell at the perps about they cannot be in McDs anymore. LOck the door behind them, help the victim to safety, etc.
I am not sure if it's a reasonable expectation from a legal stand point for fast food employees to get involved in fisticuffs on their guests' behalf. I mean that I am not sure that's a reasonable enough expectation to justify a suit.

It should be noted that what constitute a reasonable expectation legally isn't necessarily the same as a reasonable moral, ethical, or other sort of expectation.

No need to get all pissy though.
Now see, that diminished the classiness of the previous apology.

Never apologize saying, "Sorry, but..." If you feel you must, say the "but..." part first, then the apology.
I am very happily married, I know have learned these things.
 
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See, and I thought that was kind of a silly question. I couldn't imagine a reason why they would be obligated to do so given the situation. [I mean ordinarily, I would want an employee to help a patron with their belongings if they had left the belongings on accident.]

All I was addressing was the possibility of suing McD for what the employees did and/or did not do.
You can't sue them for not fulfilling duties they don't actually have.
I think it's reasonable to expect them to call the police right away. I think it's reasonable to expect them to go over and talk to or yell at the perps about they cannot be in McDs anymore. LOck the door behind them, help the victim to safety, etc.
I am not sure if it's a reasonable expectation from a legal stand point for fast food employees to get involved in fisticuffs on their guests' behalf. I mean that I am not sure that's a reasonable enough expectation to justify a suit.

It should be noted that what constitute a reasonable expectation legally isn't necessarily the same as a reasonable moral, ethical, or other sort of expectation.

I agree that they were only LEGALLY obligated to call the police, and ask them to leave. I also agree that from a legal standpoint it is not reasonable to expect them to physically defend the victim. I am not sure if they will be found negligent in not locking the door or escorting the victim to an office or the back or whatever, but it is possible I guess.

I will say though, that MORALLY, those employees are all guilty of not stepping up. Allowing someone to be kicked in the head while they aren't even able to stand, and dragged across the floor by their hair is absolutely worthless in my eyes. I would have choke slammed the both of them. Repeatedly. Then I'd follow up with some good ol' fashioned body slams. If they kept getting up, I would have thrown them through the plate glass windows. Sometimes, people can only understand things on their own terms, and it seems that violence is the only thing that can get through to these hoodrats. If it's war they want, then war we shall give them. They are still hopelessly outnumbered, yet another thing they can hopefully understand since they always cowardly attack in packs.

Now see, that diminished the classiness of the previous apology.

Never apologize saying, "Sorry, but..." If you feel you must, say the "but..." part first, then the apology.
I am very happily married, I know have learned these things.

Haha. Fair enough... but it's just a simple misunderstanding is all. Violent criminals that gang up on someone should be treated with pissyness... not me. :)
 
Look at these sub-human "women" beat up this poor woman. This is DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!
Im soooooooooooooo MAD right now I want to throw my mother ****ing computer across the room!!!!!! And look at these blacks do NOTHING! They even warned the sub-human black women that nearly KILLED that woman that the cops where coming so they should run!!! These mother ****ers should have been shot on site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

GOD DAMN IT!!!!!! I want to use racial slurs of ALL types!!!! Why does this crap always happen with blacks!?!?!? WHY!?!?!

I need to cool off man.


OH! And I called the PD that arrested these sub-humans BTW and thanked them and if the women accidently got shot I wouldnt mind it. Then I called McDonalds and said there better not be ONE remaining employee in that store STILL employeed.
 
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. At the end, it sounds like he says "boy's having a seizure" but he also clearly says "she." [The guy also claimed the seizure was faked because "he stood right up" when the police got there.]

A hard blow to the head can often make a person spasm as if having a seizure, and the seizure is often brief. I've seen people get KO'ed, spaz, then get up ten-fifteen seconds later.
 
It's racial cause they're all black and shes white. Yup.

You can bet your ass it would not only be tagged as racial, but also as a hate crime, had this been two whites kicking the **** out of a black person.

Stop with the hypocrisy. Please?
 
It is something I would have thought of if I didnt want to hit one of the women fighting or potentially get assualted myself (not knowing if either of the two had weapons)


Use the fear of being arrested and thrown in jail as a motivator to get them out and stop the assualt

Do you really think these two gals were worried about getting arrested?

People who are afraid of getting arrested don't do this kind of ****, in the first place.
 
Do you really think these two gals were worried about getting arrested?

People who are afraid of getting arrested don't do this kind of ****, in the first place.

I think when they re-entered the restaurants shows they had no concern about possibly being arrested. Basically since no one was physically blocking them from their action they saw that as a green light to just thump at will.
 
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There is a HUGE racial component to this.

Notice how the employees - all black - just give kind of a passing "help" to this girl, who is convulsing by the end of this beating. These two black females just keep returning again and again to continue the beating, while the employees just watch.

The camera operator actually warns the attackers that the police are on the way, and that they should hurry up and leave. Incredible.

It takes an older white lady to come in and offer any kind of helpful resistance.

This is a prime example of why I get so disgusted at how the racist tag is so liberally thrown at white people, and how it's almost taboo to discuss in the opposite manner. In my opinion, racism is more deeply rooted and practiced in the black community, both toward whites and Hispanics, than it is in whites.

While not a mainstream news source, there is nothing more "newsy" than actual video, and the recent trend of these attacks in fast-food restaurants, I thought, made it breaking news worthy.

I agree, seeing things like this does NOT reinvigorate my hope for humanity.
 
the only racism is the way this was posted, so a white chick got jumped, wooowww, watch high school videos on fights and shootings, its mostly black on black because those are the poverty schools, i think thats a way bigger issue to be of discussion, rather than walking in a black dominated mcdonalds. lets not cry about black fear for a single beating caught on tape, what about real dark places. like numorous racial law enforcement beatings, or SLAVERY, come on, that was day after day, for peoples ENTIRE lives.

what exactly are you trying to say-you are trying to justify this sort of thuggery because you think blacks are less able to act in a lawful manner? or that some white girl deserved to get trashed because white cops beat up black thugs or because blacks sold blacks to white slavers 400 years ago?

making excuses for crime enables this sort of pathologies to continue
 
....see what voting Democrat can do for a community.......and for society.
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Does not being involved also include telling the criminals to get out of there because the police are on the way? We've fallen rather far.

Also, is this a "hate crime"?

Yeah, I would say it's probably a hate crime. This is unacceptable behavior, and everyone who just stood by should be put on on some kind of charges IMO.
 
Its not a hate crime just as this isnt voter intimidation........


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......the typical white honkey that got beat up in the McDonald's video acted stupidly.....Obama can solve this with a beer summit.....
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A hard blow to the head can often make a person spasm as if having a seizure, and the seizure is often brief. I've seen people get KO'ed, spaz, then get up ten-fifteen seconds later.

These two sub-humans need to be chained to a wall and be beaten till unconscience, then they can spend their time working to pay for the white womans hospital bill for the rest of their lives. Two pieces of dog ****.
 
Rosedale, Md. - New developments tonight in the case of a person brutally attacked at a McDonalds in Baltimore County. Equality Maryland says the victim is a transgender woman. The organization’s board president, Chuck Butler released the following statement:
"A member of our community was recently the victim of senseless violence. Equality Maryland is saddened that in this day and age, bigotry and discrimination against transgender individuals continue, especially in our own backyard.
No person ever deserves to be a victim of violence regardless of their gender identity or presentation. We encourage the State's Attorney General to investigate this as a hate crime based on gender identity. We are encouraged that McDonald's is working with local police to investigate this incident, and hope that the company will follow-up with appropriate disciplinary action against any employees involved.

CONTINUED: Equality Maryland: McDonalds beating is a hate crime
 
Personally I would have shot the the two them, no need to get physically involved. That assault was deadly the minute they used their feet plus two, BTW that was a hate crime and racially motivated IMO, non the less I would have burnt those two down. Those two girls where out to kill that other girl(victim) and they had no fear of being arrested, no need to have them in our society. A shame what this all has come to be..
 
Normally I'd never hit a woman, but those 2 *****es I'd make an exception for. That video made me extremely angry, and they are lucky that I wasn't there. A quick trip out to the car to fetch my "defense pipe" and they are the ones going to the hospital... with broken skulls.

edit: of course then it would be plastered all over the news, and the good reverend would be making speeches about how the big bad white man beat down two harmless black women. :roll:

My 'defense pipe" has a firing pin at one end and a peep sight at the other.

Two rounds, more more than 25 cents a piece, would have stopped this attack cold. You beat a woman to that point, its life or death, and I would have shot them both. No doubt.
 
I hope they apprehend these two and they are sent to prison where they belong. In a freakin cage.
 
Most places have policy to not get involved in situations like this both due to risk of employees and risk of possible legal liability(ie getting sued). Assuming racism is just stupid when other factors are more likely.

McDonalds will likely get sued, the employees fired, and with any luck, the store closed....
Anybody standing by during a beatdown is lacking in humanity.
 
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