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Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer

I saw that as trying to get them to stop without getting involved physically.

I suppose that's possible. I just don't see it as likely.

Whether it is considered a hate crime I think depends on motivation, and I have no clue as to the motives of any one involved except the awesome old lady.

One would hope that's the way all cases like this are treated. Still it seems that if race were reversed we'd be seeing some hate crime charges.
 
One would hope that's the way all cases like this are treated. Still it seems that if race were reversed we'd be seeing some hate crime charges.

Considering I oppose hate crime laws, I would hope that no one is charged as such here.
 
Most places have policy to not get involved in situations like this both due to risk of employees and risk of possible legal liability(ie getting sued). Assuming racism is just stupid when other factors are more likely.

How about common decency?
 
I saw that as trying to get them to stop without getting involved physically.

Yeah. They tell them to leave and then get one of them their cellphone. Obviously friends or "brotherhood" going on there. The person that got the phone should be arrested as an accessory.
 
How about common decency?

That would be a question for any other customers in the store. I suspect, though have no proof, that the manager told the employees not to get involved, and as employees kinda had their hands therefore tied.
 
That would be a question for any other customers in the store. I suspect, though have no proof, that the manager told the employees not to get involved, and as employees kinda had their hands therefore tied.

I wonder how McD's will handle a lawsuit by the poor girl beaten stupid while the employees did nothing to protect a customer.
 
I wonder how McD's will handle a lawsuit by the poor girl beaten stupid while the employees did nothing to protect a customer.

The manager did attempt to stop it. I don't think such a lawsuit would work. However, if one of his employees hurt any of the three women, or was hurt trying to help, a lawsuit would be much more likely and much more likely to get money. It's kinda sad but that is how things are these days.
 
I wonder how McD's will handle a lawsuit by the poor girl beaten stupid while the employees did nothing to protect a customer.
I am not sure what their liability is in this situation. I don't know that they have legal obligation other than to notify authorities and to tell the perps that they need to leave immediately. And, even if I did, it may vary from state to state.

But, if I was the victim, I would consult a lawyer who would know.
 
I am not sure what their liability is in this situation. I don't know that they have legal obligation other than to notify authorities and to tell the perps that they need to leave immediately.

Were they also obligated to get one of them their phone? A phone that could be used to identify the perps if it had been left there?
 
The manager and every male employee in that store are SCUMBAGS for allowing that to go on the way it did. The older woman had more nads than all of them. If they had called 911 as soon as it started the cops would have been there before that was over.
That video pissed me off
 
A real credit to public education you are...

the only racism is the way this was posted, so a white chick got jumped, wooowww, watch high school videos on fights and shootings, its mostly black on black because those are the poverty schools, i think thats a way bigger issue to be of discussion, rather than walking in a black dominated mcdonalds. lets not cry about black fear for a single beating caught on tape, what about real dark places. like numorous racial law enforcement beatings, or SLAVERY, come on, that was day after day, for peoples ENTIRE lives.
 
Were they also obligated to get one of them their phone? A phone that could be used to identify the perps if it had been left there?
Do you think it's at all probable that the law obligates them to do that? Or are just trying to be clever?
 
The manager and every male employee in that store are SCUMBAGS for allowing that to go on the way it did. The older woman had more nads than all of them.
Kudos to that lady. She deserves them.
If they had called 911 as soon as it started the cops would have been there before that was over.
That video pissed me off
If they didn't call the cops right away, I suspect that they can be sued for that. I feel confident that they did have an obligation to do that.
I didn't notice the time stamps. how long was the whole thing?
 
A real credit to public education you are...

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I don't know that they have legal obligation other than to notify authorities and to tell the perps that they need to leave immediately.
It appears the girls left the store and came back. It's really not asking that much for the manager to lock the door behind them, or he could have escorted the victim to a secure spot - I assume they have a back office with a lock.
 
It appears the girls left the store and came back. It's really not asking that much for the manager to lock the door behind them...
No, it's not.
or he could have escorted the victim to a secure spot - I assume they have a back office with a lock.
I assume the same. Most offices where they handle cash and store cash and financial records have locks.
 
I couldn't help but notice the man in the blue shirt that prevents the "white" girl from being dragged outside to the street appears to be black, the woman in the white outfit also appears to be black with a reddish hair. Now I know there is a lot of outrage here over the other black folks just watching the white girl being beaten ,for all of you outraged I suggest watching more closely at who actually saves the white girl.

If it wasn't for the woman in white and the black guy in the blue, then the white girl would probably be dead in the parking lot.

Maybe what I said above has been noted already, if so.....my apologies, I could not stand to read all the hate before I posted.
 
There is a HUGE racial component to this.

Notice how the employees - all black - just give kind of a passing "help" to this girl, who is convulsing by the end of this beating. These two black females just keep returning again and again to continue the beating, while the employees just watch.
Huge racial component?

It appears the victim may have been transgendered and was attacked after "he got smart with everyone" when the girls asked him to leave the bathroom. At least this is what the guy who originally posted (and filmed?) the video said on his facebook page. We'll have to wait and see this verified, but if you watch the video, the victim was certainly wearing a wig, and is much taller than the girls and the manager. And, just before the old lady steps in, it sounds like the guy with the camera says "that's a man" -- though the sound quality really sucks. At the end, it sounds like he says "boy's having a seizure" but he also clearly says "she." [The guy also claimed the seizure was faked because "he stood right up" when the police got there.]

If the victim was transgendered I expect we'll find out soon enough. Right or wrong, it would sort of explain why those guys didn't do more to help -- transgendered or not, I think they would feel less pressure to help a guy who is being attacked by two teenage girls than to help another girl.
 
If it wasn't for the woman in white and the black guy in the blue, then the white girl would probably be dead in the parking lot.
Also toward the end, one of the regular employees in a red shirt pulls one of the attackers off and pushes her into the wall.
 
Do you think it's at all probable that the law obligates them to do that? Or are just trying to be clever?

"Where's your phone where's your phone" *hands phone over*... "better split yo the sherriff's a-comin". Yup. Sounds like pure obligation there.
 
"Where's your phone where's your phone" *hands phone over*... "better split yo the sherriff's a-comin". Yup. Sounds like pure obligation there.
I am not at all sure what you think you're implying or what you think I have said; but, I think you're in left field by yourself on this one.
 
Also toward the end, one of the regular employees in a red shirt pulls one of the attackers off and pushes her into the wall.

Good call! At about 1:46 I see that employee in red appears to be physically moving the aggressive girl in the black top.
 
I am not at all sure what you think you're implying or what you think I have said; but, I think you're in left field by yourself on this one.

Left field? Let's review.

I don't know that they have legal obligation other than to notify authorities and to tell the perps that they need to leave immediately.

Were they also obligated to get one of them their phone? A phone that could be used to identify the perps if it had been left there?

Do you think it's at all probable that the law obligates them to do that?

"Where's your phone where's your phone" *hands phone over*... "better split yo the sherriff's a-comin". Yup. Sounds like pure obligation there.

Seems fairly straight forward to me. Where did I wander off to left field?... I thought my statements were pretty clear especially given that on page 1 I suggested that the person who gave the girl her phone and told her to split should be prosecuted as an accessory.
 
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