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Obama announces his Candidacy for 2012.

pbrauer said:
Citizens United was an actist decision and threatens our democracy.
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where in the constitution was congress GIVEN the power to regulate how much shareholders could choose to spend to exercise their free speech rights?
 
you'd think tsunami tuesday mighta provided a hint

i wonder what woulda happened if obama had campaigned on CRAMMING his radical redrawing of 1/6 of our economy via senate RECONCILIATION

ie, how would the electorate have responded had he campaigned the way he's governed

remember november

what's changed since then?

his 2012 budget?

LOL!
 
pbrauer said:
This makes no difference, issue by issue the nation favors the liberal postion
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LOL!

now, they wouldn't call themselves conservatives if that were the case, would they
 
TurtleDude said:
where in the constitution was congress GIVEN the power to regulate how much shareholders could choose to spend to exercise their free speech rights?
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Where in the constitution does it say that corporations are people or that money = speech?
 
pbrauer said:
This makes no difference, issue by issue the nation favors the liberal postion - Social Security, Roe v. Wade....
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really? Those two issues are indicative of the political leanings of the nation as a whole?

Why then was there a single conservative vote? Ever? I mean, if the whole nation favors liberals issue by issue.

:rofl:mad: your partisan hackery.
 
pbrauer said:
Where in the constitution does it say that corporations are people or that money = speech?
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you are confused-as usual--the way things work is that UNLESS congress was SPECIFICALLY delegated a power-it cannot act.

so again-tell me where did congress get the power to tell me that my brothers and I (we own a couple corporations) that we cannot spend our company's income on advocating against the incompetent Magic Kenyan
 
pbrauer said:
Whatever..
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Is that a concession of lack of competence? or in other words-the point flew so far over your head you didn't even hear it FLAP?
 
Whovian said:
really? Those two issues are indicative of the political leanings of the nation as a whole?

Why then was there a single conservative vote? Ever? I mean, if the whole nation favors liberals issue by issue.

:rofl:mad: your partisan hackery.
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Republicans uses wedge issues like Gays, Guns, God and abortion and tax cuts.
 
Whovian said:
really? Those two issues are indicative of the political leanings of the nation as a whole?

Why then was there a single conservative vote? Ever? I mean, if the whole nation favors liberals issue by issue.

:rofl:mad: your partisan hackery.
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lots of people favor getting what they paid into the ponzi scheme back. ask people their position on
1) getting their money back now and never having anything more to deal with the scheme

2) forfeit what they have paid into it now so as to not have to pay anymore

3) take what was taken from them and invest it in private securities
 
pbrauer said:
Republicans uses wedge issues like Gays, Guns, God and abortion and tax cuts.
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dems demonize the wealthy in order to get wealthy themselves through the political offices people like you elect them to

its dems that made guns a wedge issue
 
TurtleDude said:
you are confused-as usual--the way things work is that UNLESS congress was SPECIFICALLY delegated a power-it cannot act.

so again-tell me where did congress get the power to tell me that my brothers and I (we own a couple corporations) that we cannot spend our company's income on advocating against the incompetent Magic Kenyan
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It's not in the Constitution, there was legislation early in the twentieth century - I don't remember the name -sorry.
 
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