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Pastor who burned Koran demands retribution

Kali said:
He was warned by our gov. not to do it because it would lead to innocent deaths and did it anyways. Pastor has blood on his hands.
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No, it was crazed Muslims who killed those innocent people and not a Florida pastor.

The Pastor killed no one.
 
jamesrage said:
I imagine that only works for someone wanting to be a minister in a certain religious denomination not to start their own church.
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If you mean by "starting their own church", kinda starting their own sub-denomination, you would be correct. Starting their own church means opening their own church of an established denomination. Seems to be that religious denominations, at least some of them, offer licenses to people wanting to be ministers/pastors. Doesn't seem like this is something that is governmentally sanctioned at all.
 
jamesrage said:
So if Christians in the US decided to murder some Muslims and Jews in the US because Muslims and Jews in the middle east burned some bibles then those Muslims and Hews who burned bibles would have blood on their hands?
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Yes. I do not see that happening since the brainwashing in this country is not as bad here though.
 
Grant said:
No, it was crazed Muslims who killed those innocent people and not a Florida pastor.

The Pastor killed no one.
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He was warned what would happen by our own gov and did it anyways because he does not care! He has blood on his hands and while he may have not directly killed someone? His actions damn sure did cause deaths and he will have to live with that. But he does not care. I hope he drops dead anytime now.
 
jamesrage said:
I imagine the the being licensed or ordained is only for someone wanting to be a minister in a certain religious denomination.They can still have their church and be a minister or pastor but they couldn't be part of or affiliated with any denomination without first being ordained or licensed by a particular denomination.
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Just found this and thought you might be interested.

Ordination Online: Become a Minister, Officiate Weddings and More. Women Welcome

Seems as if becoming "ordained" as a minister/pastor is as easy as paying a fee. Nothing else is required. And you CAN start your own church/denomination, gaining tax exempt status. Interesting stuff.
 
ManofthPeephole said:
How dare You~!!!
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Seemed like an interesting issue. Found some cool stuff about it, too. Perhaps I will start my own ministry. I'll call it "The Church of the Courteous".
 
Kali said:
He was warned what would happen by our own gov and did it anyways because he does not care! He has blood on his hands and while he may have not directly killed someone? His actions damn sure did cause deaths and he will have to live with that. But he does not care. I hope he drops dead anytime now.
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You seem to be one of those who believe that Muslims tend to be criminally insane and any spark might set them off.

I agree to a point, and recent history bears that out, but that does not mean we have to withhold our opinions because Muslims tend to seriously overreact to otherwise minor situations.

A better idea, I believe, is not to succumb to their intimidations but to strike back hard whenever they behave abnormally.

And, by the way, wishing an innocent person dead is also abnormal. Careful you don't go all Jihady on anyone.
 
Kali said:
Yes. I do not see that happening since the brainwashing in this country is not as bad here though.
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How far does the placating or butt smooching of nut jobs go to?

Would you accuse ministers of having blood on their hands if racists murdered people
because those ministers performed interracial weddings?

Would you accuse science teachers of having blood on their hands if a religious group started murdering people because science teachers were teaching the theory of evolution?

Would you accuse a sports team of having blood on their hands if nut job started murdering people because that sports team lost their championship game?

Would you accuse a video game company of having blood on their hands if die hard world of Nerd Craft fans started killing people because that video game company decided that they did not want to make any more sequels to World of Nerd Craft?
 
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jamesrage said:
How far does the placating or butt smooching of nut jobs go to?

Would you accuse ministers of having blood on their hands if racists murdered people
because those ministers performed interracial weddings?

Would you accuse science teachers of having blood on their hands if a religious group started murdering people because science teachers were teaching the theory of evolution?

Would you accuse a sports team of having blood on their hands if nut job started murdering people because that sports team lost their championship game?

Would you accuse a video game company of having blood on their hands if die hard world of Nerd Craft fans started killing people because that video game company decided that they did not want to make any more sequels to World of Nerd Craft?
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Another analogy is claiming rape is permissible because a woman was wearing her skirt too high, didn't have her face covered , or wore high heels. The women in these cases are also said to be at fault, not the rapists.

Oddly enough this argument was used successfully in an Australian court a few years ago and the rapists, unless it was appealed, went free.

No need to mention their religion.
 
Grant said:
You seem to be one of those who believe that Muslims tend to be criminally insane and any spark might set them off.

I agree to a point, and recent history bears that out, but that does not mean we have to withhold our opinions because Muslims tend to seriously overreact to otherwise minor situations.

A better idea, I believe, is not to succumb to their intimidations but to strike back hard whenever they behave abnormally.

And, by the way, wishing an innocent person dead is also abnormal. Careful you don't go all Jihady on anyone.
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You got all that by my post? Listen here don't you ever assume what I think about anybody or any group because you do not know me like that.

Our gov told this redneck country ass pastor not to do what he did and he did it anyways and folks DIED because of HIM! Not that hard to understand.
 
jamesrage said:
How far does the placating or butt smooching of nut jobs go to?

Would you accuse ministers of having blood on their hands if racists murdered people
because those ministers performed interracial weddings?

Would you accuse science teachers of having blood on their hands if a religious group started murdering people because science teachers were teaching the theory of evolution?

Would you accuse a sports team of having blood on their hands if nut job started murdering people because that sports team lost their championship game?

Would you accuse a video game company of having blood on their hands if die hard world of Nerd Craft fans started killing people because that video game company decided that they did not want to make any more sequels to World of Nerd Craft?
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You are reaching. This Pastor is an idiot racist ass that is getting the heat he deserves. And why is everybody ignoring the fact that he was warned by our GOV to not do this? He put our troops at risk with his nonsense. Talk about what is important instead of trying to excuse this dumbass fools actions. How in the hell can any of you sit here and try to defend this man?
 
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Grant said:
He's a racist??

Against which race?
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He's likely one of the doubly idiotic idiots who thinks islam is a race. Now just because hes not right doesnt make him a racist. :lol:
 
SE102 said:
He's likely one of the doubly idiotic idiots who thinks islam is a race. Now just because hes not right doesnt make him a racist. :lol:
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No need to call Kali names. It was just an incorrect guess.
 
I was referring to the pastor lol, but I get ya :lol:

/no offense, anyone.
 
Grant said:
I thought you might be guessing.
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Oh.. You wish I was guessing in your little stint to defend this white man but there is no doubt in my mind he is a racist and many other things. This thread is not about me though: it is about one dumbass "pastor" that is godless, racist and all things in between who thinks he is so wonderful he can get around being the things he is without being called out. This white dumbass thought he could have his little redneck burning without people keeping him in check. This man is a disgrace and should be locked up as he had warnings from our gov. military but he did what he did anyways. He was warned it would result in death and now some from the UN working there were killed. This "Pastor" is not a man of God. He is a man of hate and if you wish to support him? You go ahead and support this fool. I do not support anybody that commits certain actions they know will result in death. Maybe you are the type person that does not give a crap about people as a whole-I do. And the people supporting this man disgust me.
 
BTW, I support this asswipes right to do what he did but considering that he was warned by our gov and told what would happen if he did what he wanted to do that people would die? He went ahead and this is why I support folks being mad to the point where if they wanted this man to be gone he would. He put innocent people in danger so while doing that? He lost any human rights he has and if someone takes him out? Oh well. He should thought about that before he got all bloody.

If my line of thinking makes me a hypocrite? So be it.
 
Kali said:
You are reaching.
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You seem to think it is acceptable to placate nut jobs, especially nut jobs who would extend any courtesy to any other religion.How so? Why won't you be consistent in these other examples I listed.

So again how far does the placating or butt smooching of nut jobs go to?

Would you accuse ministers of having blood on their hands if racists murdered people
because those ministers performed interracial weddings?

Would you accuse science teachers of having blood on their hands if a religious group started murdering people because science teachers were teaching the theory of evolution?

Would you accuse a sports team of having blood on their hands if nut job started murdering people because that sports team lost their championship game?

Would you accuse a video game company of having blood on their hands if die hard world of Nerd Craft fans started killing people because that video game company decided that they did not want to make any more sequels to World of Nerd Craft?


This Pastor is an idiot racist ass that is getting the heat he deserves.
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You do not know if the pastor is a racist. And retards suggesting that he should somehow be punished or has blood on his hands is not what he deserves.

And why is everybody ignoring the fact that he was warned by our GOV to not do this? He put our troops at risk with his nonsense. Talk about what is important instead of trying to excuse this dumbass fools actions.
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SO you were against the media releasing abu ghraib prison abuse photos, news week doing the bogus koran flushing story and anything else the media did that could have possibly endangered the lives of others? What about wiki-leaks releasing information that could possibly endanger the lives?


How in the hell can any of you sit here and try to defend this man?
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1. He did not murder anyone. The nut jobs who are grown adults in the middle east did.<---This being the most important part.

2.We are not some Euro-trash country that ****s on free speech by having idiotic hate speech laws.

3.The nuts jobs doing the murdering do not give two ****s if the bible,Torah, or any other religious book is burned or if any other religious figure is drawn. So they do not deserve to have any respect to their religious documents,icons,idols or what ever.

4.Most of you people didn't say **** when Muslims and Jews were burning bibles half way across the world.

5.Stories like this show that most of you people only worry about not offending religious people when it comes to nut jobs in the Muslim religion. If a few whack jobs did not get murderous. many of you same people would probably have a avatar of Mohamed pushing a baby stroller with baby Aisha in it wearing a wedding dress.

6.There is no right to not be offended, especially if you live half way across the world.
 
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Kali said:
Oh.. You wish I was guessing in your little stint to defend this white man but there is no doubt in my mind he is a racist and many other things. This thread is not about me though: it is about one dumbass "pastor" that is godless, racist and all things in between who thinks he is so wonderful he can get around being the things he is without being called out. This white dumbass thought he could have his little redneck burning without people keeping him in check. This man is a disgrace and should be locked up as he had warnings from our gov. military but he did what he did anyways. He was warned it would result in death and now some from the UN working there were killed. This "Pastor" is not a man of God. He is a man of hate and if you wish to support him? You go ahead and support this fool. I do not support anybody that commits certain actions they know will result in death. Maybe you are the type person that does not give a crap about people as a whole-I do. And the people supporting this man disgust me.
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Woah... you are claiming racism while making racist comments about the racist... i love it
 
celticwar17 said:
Woah... you are claiming racism while making racist comments about the racist... i love it
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You know what they say "He who smelt it dealt it" .
 
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