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Radiation Traces Found in U.S. Milk

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By STEPHEN POWER
MARCH 30, 2011, 8:52 P.M. ET
The U.S. government said Wednesday that traces of radiation have been found in milk in Washington state, but said the amounts are far too low to trigger any public-health concern.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said the government is working to bring the current nuclear crisis to a close without compromising the health of the Japanese people.
The Environmental Protection Agency said a March 25 sample of milk produced in the Spokane, Wash., area contained a 0.8 pico curies per literlevel of iodine-131, which it said was less than one five-thousandth of the safety safety guideline set by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
The EPA said it increased monitoring after radiation leaked from Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. It expects more such findings in coming days, but in amounts "far below levels of public-health concern, including for infants and children."
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All this going on and people around here seem to have forgotten about Japan. We still have to deal with Japan, which is far more important that Libya.
 
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All this going on and people around here seem to have forgotten about Japan. We still have to deal with Japan, which is far more important that Libya.
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Wait....what? Libya is in war and we're wasting tons of money on it. Japan suffered a major catastrophe and while we could send aid and such there's not going to be any amount of radiation which proves to be dangerous to us because of it. Let's not be stupid about this.
 
It is my professional opinion that now is the time to PANIC!
 
Wonder if cows have been eating/drinking iodine or what? Remember the river that magically turned green from pharmaceutical fluorescein + iodine? Scary, time to geiger all the milkz?!?!

Goldstream River turns bright GREEN: Radioactive disaster or a hoax? | Mail Online

Canada's Goldstream River failed to live up to its name when its waters bizarrely started flowing a fluorescent green.

The river, which runs through the city of Langford in British Columbia, looked like the result of a radioactive disaster and an investigation was launched immediately.

What caused the river to change colour was a mystery at first, but investigators swiftly discovered an organic compound used as a dye to test water systems was to blame.
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If the melamine don't get ya the iodone 131 will. Guess my joke in another post about Anne Coulter serving up radioactive cocktales isn't so funny anymore. If we are seeing radioactive milk in America (and it is stems from Japan in reality) then I feel hyper-sorry for Japan.
 
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The levels of radiation appearing in relation to Japan are, to my knowledge, no more a threat than the ambient radiation we are exposed to routinely.

I'm tired of the fearmongering. Unless Japan's reactors have a total meltdown, our shores are not at risk. If you want to talk about environmental disasters, then our media should be more focused on the aftermath of the Gulf oil spill. There are people contracting some serious diseases on the eastern seaboard right now.
 
Temporal said:
The levels of radiation appearing in relation to Japan are, to my knowledge, no more a threat than the ambient radiation we are exposed to routinely.

I'm tired of the fearmongering. Unless Japan's reactors have a total meltdown, our shores are not at risk. If you want to talk about environmental disasters, then our media should be more focused on the aftermath of the Gulf oil spill. There are people contracting some serious diseases on the eastern seaboard right now.
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How about the radiation the Japanese are facing?
 
Temporal said:
The levels of radiation appearing in relation to Japan are, to my knowledge, no more a threat than the ambient radiation we are exposed to routinely.

I'm tired of the fearmongering. Unless Japan's reactors have a total meltdown, our shores are not at risk. If you want to talk about environmental disasters, then our media should be more focused on the aftermath of the Gulf oil spill. There are people contracting some serious diseases on the eastern seaboard right now.
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Even then its not going to be a problem. Whatever was released would fall into the ocean before it reached our shore.
 
It's here in Britain, and it has to have passed by the US to get here on the prevailing winds.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's here in Britain, and it has to have passed by the US to get here on the prevailing winds.
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Whatever the reports say the science doesn't mesh with it. There is no way radiation from Japan would reach the us or Britain or Scotland for that matter. I have no idea what is up with all this drivel reports but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject knows its impossible for it to travel that far.

All I can say is if the radiation is real it has to have a different source that is closer.
 
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Henrin said:
Whatever the reports say the science doesn't mesh with it. There is no way radiation from Japan would reach the us or Britain or Scotland for that matter. I have no idea what is up with all this drivel reports but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject knows its impossible for it to travel that far.

All I can say is if the radiation is real it has to have a different source that is closer.
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So, all of the sudden, Russia, the US, Iceland and the UK are all registering SLIGHTLY elevated levels of radiation at just the time the prevailing jet would take such radiation from Japan to these points in the northern hemisphere and it is ALL from local sources??? That makes even less sense...
 
ludahai said:
Once again proving your "professional opinion" is not to be taken all that seriously.... Come on... such small levels... nothing to panic about .... yet...
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I think he was being sarcastic
 
ludahai said:
So, all of the sudden, Russia, the US, Iceland and the UK are all registering SLIGHTLY elevated levels of radiation at just the time the prevailing jet would take such radiation from Japan to these points in the northern hemisphere and it is ALL from local sources??? That makes even less sense...
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First I didn't follow the story, second I have no reason to believe that the radiation is actually from Japan or that it exists at all, and third, local sources makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than radiation not falling in the ocean all the damn way from Japan to the UK. Look it up, radiation doesn't travel that far jet stream or not. The reports are false or from local sources, end of story.
 
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Henrin said:
Whatever the reports say the science doesn't mesh with it. There is no way radiation from Japan would reach the us or Britain or Scotland for that matter. I have no idea what is up with all this drivel reports but anyone with an ounce of knowledge on the subject knows its impossible for it to travel that far.

All I can say is if the radiation is real it has to have a different source that is closer.
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It's easy enough to test, you can identify the isotopes using a multichannel analyzer (which many universities and any radiopharmaceutical manufacturer would have) and determine the liklihood of it originating from a light water reactor. If it contains something like I-131, you'd be hard-pressed to find a local source unless someone has been feeding cows thyroid drugs (which I think would be illegal, and very easy to test with a geiger counter).
 
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You can find "traces" of radioactive material in pretty much everything. You get exposed to radiation sleeping with your spouse at night. Brazil nuts expose you to more radiation than living across the street from a nuclear plant. A coal power plant releases more radioactive waste into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant generates.

The media really needs to stop reporting on completely normal radiation levels.
 
Keep in mind that EVERYTHING has some level of radiation.

I'd bet walking outside to your mailbox exposes you to more radiation than drinking a glass of that milk.
 
I find it hard to believe that radioactive Iodine floated all the way around this world, got absorbed by cows, and wasnt fully attinuated by the time it became milk. The fact that the iodine-131 is in the milk is scarier than "natural radiation" in it. The cows would have to be exposed to it from an immediate source. Or someone, somehow stuck it in the milk directly.

Is the tainted milk directly from Japan or not? If not then somethere here is amiss.
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Deuce said:
The media really needs to stop reporting on completely normal radiation levels.
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Given the choice of a media that reports this stuff vs. a media that decides not to (as if it had some parental role in not upsetting the children), I'll take the former.

Perhaps the most "responsible" approach would ensure that headlines convey a "present, but negligible risk" message.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I find it hard to believe that radioactive Iodine floated all the way around this world, got absorbed by cows, and wasnt fully attinuated by the time it became milk. The fact that the iodine-131 is in the milk is scarier than "natural radiation" in it. The cows would have to be exposed to it from an immediate source. Or someone, somehow stuck it in the milk directly.

Is the tainted milk directly from Japan or not? If not then somethere here is amiss.
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No, we of course would never import milk from Japan - especially under the present circumstances.

Iodine need not "float" to us. Any iodine introduced into the oceans is quickly snatched up by microorganisms; algae will consume various iodine compounds and expel methyl iodide gas that will enter the atmosphere. From there, it goes where the wind takes it. Sunlight breaks it down and it can go through all sorts of transformations in the atmosphere - eventually it will end up on (mostly coastal) land, perhaps with the morning drizzle. This is a well-studied process.

If you're looking for a conspiracy theory - I CAN tell you that there are only a few dietary sources of iodine. The aforementioned algae ("seaweed") is the primary source, but it can come from most seafood, and also from plants grown in iodine rich soil (from the process described above).

Dairy products also tend to contain significant amounts of iodine - at least in this country. Significant levels of iodine don't naturally occur in milk, and the presence of higher concentrations in our milk, yogurt, and cheese is usually credited to the use of iodine-based cleansers used on the udders (yum!) and iodine sprayed on feed to reduce the risk of infection.

So... while I don't think its likely there's an "immediate source" -- if there was, it seems that would be the likely mechanism: tainted sanitizer or tainted feed additives.
 
Taylor said:
Dairy products also tend to contain significant amounts of iodine - at least in this country. Significant levels of iodine don't naturally occur in milk, and the presence of higher concentrations in our milk, yogurt, and cheese is usually credited to the use of iodine-based cleansers used on the udders (yum!) and iodine sprayed on feed to reduce the risk of infection.

So... while I don't think its likely there's an "immediate source" -- if there was, it seems that would be the likely mechanism: tainted sanitizer or tainted feed additives.
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I doubt they use radioactive iodine for the cleaning.
 
It's a little known fact that Japanese radioactive iodine can burrow through the planet to hide under your bed, even when it's upstairs!
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's a little known fact that Japanese radioactive iodine can burrow through the planet to hide under your bed, even when it's upstairs!
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There's a mogwai/gremlins joke in there somewhere. At least I think there is. God, I'm tired.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's a little known fact that Japanese radioactive iodine can burrow through the planet to hide under your bed, even when it's upstairs!
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Its this guys fault:

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Scientists explain that Baragon must have been a burrowing dinosaur that tunneled into the earth during the Ice Age and is now surfacing because the world's warmed up again...
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at least that was the premise in the 1965 Japanese movie Frankenstein Vs. Baragon. edit: apparently aka Frankenstein Conquers the World

He must have went back in hiding after 1965 and continued to burrow through the earth, and suddenly reappeared because of the ground opening up from the quakes. the iodine is seeping through his tunnels and infecting our cows.
 
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