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RIP: Former Vice-Presidential Nominee Geraldine Ferraro Dies

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Although I never agreed with her politics she was a pioneer and loyal American, and deserves our our admiration and respect.


Former Vice-Presidential Nominee Geraldine Ferraro Dies - FoxNews.com

Geraldine Ferraro, the first woman to run for vice president, has died of blood cancer, her family announced Saturday. She was 75.
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Wasn't she a democrat? I'm watching Sarah Palin pay tribute to her close friend. And she seems to have known her very well. Of course they are both women who ran for vice president.

I remember her as a very likable woman, certainly eligible to be vice president. She was 75.
 
Amen. Rest in peace.
 
idk said:
I'm sorry to say, I didn't realize she was in poor health.
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It's hard to keep up with the health of every old celebrity/important public figure in America. I doubt most people even knew or cared about the state of her health until today, simply wasn't within the media consciousness.
 
She had an amazingly rare quality for a woman. She was as likeable as a man. She was a Democrat of the old fashioned variety I believe. I didn't agree with her politics but she was never obnoxious. She spoke with great clarity and intelligence.
 
Marshabar said:
She had an amazingly rare quality for a woman. She was as likeable as a man. She was a Democrat of the old fashioned variety I believe. I didn't agree with her politics but she was never obnoxious. She spoke with great clarity and intelligence.
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There are plenty of male politicians who are plain repulsive and obnoxious. Just sayin'
 
StillBallin75 said:
There are plenty of male politicians who are plain repulsive and obnoxious. Just sayin'
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I've always felt that women are like cats, complicated, unpredictable, mysterious, moody, catty. Men are like dogs, simple, predictable, easy, steady and loyal. Of course that's a generalization but I've found it pretty accurate in my experience. Masculinity and feminity are a spectrum rather than two sides of a coin. My favorite women are those like Maggie Thatcher and Geraldine Ferraro who don't exhibit much of what I call the catty nature.

I admired Ferraro's graciousness tremendously.
 
Marshabar said:
I've always felt that women are like cats, complicated, unpredictable, mysterious, moody, catty. Men are like dogs, simple, predictable, easy, steady and loyal. Of course that's a generalization but I've found it pretty accurate in my experience. Masculinity and feminity are a spectrum rather than two sides of a coin. My favorite women are those like Maggie Thatcher and Geraldine Ferraro who don't exhibit much of what I call the catty nature.

I admired Ferraro's graciousness tremendously.
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It's true, women gotta make things so damn complicated sometimes. When it comes to politics though, I think women are generally at a disadvantage because skillful politicians like Hillary are viewed as cold bitches when they attempt to project themselves to be as strong as men. I wasn't alive when Ferraro ran for VP so I can't comment on her personality or attitude.
 
StillBallin75 said:
It's true, women gotta make things so damn complicated sometimes. When it comes to politics though, I think women are generally at a disadvantage because skillful politicians like Hillary are viewed as cold bitches when they attempt to project themselves to be as strong as men. I wasn't alive when Ferraro ran for VP so I can't comment on her personality or attitude.
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Ferraro was never shrill. Hillary and Sarah Palin are often shrill. And catty according to many who know them. Projecting strength is not the same as simply being strong. If they're seen as cold bitches it's because they are projecting hardness and coldness not strength. Graciousness is so important. Seems many women in their attempt to be as strong as men have forgotten that.
 
The first woman on a major party's presidential ticket, Gerry will be remembered.
 
Marshabar said:
Ferraro was never shrill. Hillary and Sarah Palin are often shrill. And catty according to many who know them. Projecting strength is not the same as simply being strong. If they're seen as cold bitches it's because they are projecting hardness and coldness not strength. Graciousness is so important. Seems many women in their attempt to be as strong as men have forgotten that.
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So what is a good way for a female politician to project strength without being shrill? (Again i'm young, Margaret Thatcher was before my time).
 
It sounds like Marshabar may enjoy the style of the late Jeanne Kirkpatrick.
 
So what is a good way for a female politician to project strength without being shrill? (Again i'm young, Margaret Thatcher was before my time).
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I honestly think good old fashioned charm school would help. The women's movement destroyed the entire concept of graciousness in the women who cleave to the politics of gender equality.

I know many women who never married because they adopted anger as part of their politics while they were in college. An angry woman is an unattractive woman. I helped out one good friend when she met a man she was interested in by suggesting for example when this man was riding his motorcycle across country and fell ill, that she must feel very badly imagining him out there in the elements feeling very sick. It had never occurred to her to empathize or to care about his comfort because in her mind men were the enemy even if the man was her boyfriend.

It sounds like Marshabar may enjoy the style of the late Jeanne Kirkpatrick.
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Love Jeanne Kirkpatrick. Wish there were more like her.
 
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Councilman said:
Although I never agreed with her politics she was a pioneer and loyal American, and deserves our our admiration and respect.



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Never heard of her. Sorry :peace
 
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Marshabar said:
I honestly think good old fashioned charm school would help. The women's movement destroyed the entire concept of graciousness in the women who cleave to the politics of gender equality.

I know many women who never married because they adopted anger as part of their politics while they were in college. An angry woman is an unattractive woman. I helped out one good friend when she met a man she was interested in by suggesting for example when this man was riding his motorcycle across country and fell ill, that she must feel very badly imagining him out there in the elements feeling very sick. It had never occurred to her to empathize or to care about his comfort because in her mind men were the enemy even if the man was her boyfriend.



Love Jeanne Kirkpatrick. Wish there were more like her.
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For the most part a lot of my female friends are feminists (my ex-gf was a pretty big feminist) and none of them adopted the politics of anger, so perhaps my generation is different.
 
It was common for women rights activists to not marry when times were different in regards to property and estate rights. Women more or less just had to follow the man, even should he be the incompetent one. In many ways it spelled political activism's death. Though, in more contemporary times it just seems rather odd.
 
Honestly, Councilman, I think there are some rare individuals who transcend partisanship. Ferraro never struck me as an ideologue, she worked to help people in all sincerity. The people at Fox News where she was a contributor are clearly touched by her passing. They describe her character in glowing terms. Fox is spending a lot of time interviewing people who knew her. I've rarely heard such warm memories with specific instances of her humor, kindness and wisdom.

Don't forget, she defended Sarah Palin.


I was just reminded that she had a difficult childhood. Her father died when she was 8 years old and her mother supported the family as a seamstress in the garment district in NYC.
 
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Honestly, Councilman, I think there are some rare individuals who transcend partisanship. Ferraro never struck me as an ideologue, she worked to help people in all sincerity. The people at Fox News where she was a contributor are clearly touched by her passing. They describe her character in glowing terms.
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I agree with your assessment, and I have been watching FOX most of the day and I noticed that.
 
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I always admired her, I never agreed with her...but she was always very intelligent and well spoken.
 
StillBallin75 said:
For the most part a lot of my female friends are feminists (my ex-gf was a pretty big feminist) and none of them adopted the politics of anger, so perhaps my generation is different.
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I know... I am bit shocked by her take on women in politics and feminism. I have had a lot of feminist friends... many of them were males, and they weren't gay or pushovers. A lot of the female feminists I knew in college were very academic and very intelligent... Many of them were concerned about women's issues in foreign countries and helping women globally..

When people really understand what feminism is, it's easy to know why men would be attracted to the movement too. Sexism isn't just a woman's issue...
 
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