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Canadian government falls, election set for May

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OTTAWA (Reuters) – The opposition toppled Canada's Conservative government on Friday, accusing it of sleaze and mismanagement, setting the scene for a May election that polls indicate the Conservatives will win.

Opposition legislators threw papers in the air in glee after voting 156-145 in the House of Commons to defeat the minority government, which they also say has mismanaged the economy and is overly secretive.

The irony here is that Conservatives in Canada are about to win an election, after their coalition was toppled. Why would the Conservatives win after losing, you ask? Because of all those Liberal FRENCH Canadians, who are predicted to surrender, come election time. :mrgreen:

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This shows the utter stupidity of Micheal Ignattief, what the hell did he hope to accomplish by this?

There's no way he'll be elected Prime Minister.

Harper will cling onto power.

Bad Move Mikey, bad move.

In the middle of a budget crisis, lets all spend a ****load of money on a federal election.

Moron.
 
Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.
 
Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.


It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.
[emphasis added by bubba]
... We end up spending about a third of our overall health care resources in the last year of life ...
it appears that a disproportionate share of health care dollars are spent prolonging the inevitable

End-of-life care costs continue to climb upward | Reuters

maybe its time that should change
 
Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.

Jesus.

Dumbest thing I've read in awhile.

Don't know what country you're talking about.

But it ain't Canada.
 
Not to start a war on whose country is better, but it had to be said…

I won’t claim our healthcare system is without its faults, but NOBODY gets denied because they don’t have insurance. NOBODY I know has gone broke because of an illness… From what I remember, Canada’s books weren’t in as bad a shape as the US’s when the meltdown happened, and I’d rather invest in just about ANY dollar than the US’s right now…

I’ve witnessed long waits for some people with health problems, but I’ve NEVER seen or heard of anyone dying because they couldn’t get care. As bubba pointed out, we even spend too much keeping people alive who’d rather be dead.

If you are near deaths door, you get bumped to the head of the line, pronto, even if you have to take it upon yourself to go to emergency… We have too many people using Emergency for silly reasons, that’s about it…

I would agree that is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in awhile. Not partisan at all either.

But, back to topic, yes, we have a bunch of effing yahoo’s running our country too. Canadians had two concerns of late.

  1. Keeping their jobs, job creation
  2. NO ELECTION
Ah well, at least the bud in BC is strong enough to tune them out, and I won’t be doing 10 years for having a roach in my ashtray…

Peace
 
The budget was designed to trigger a non-confidence vote and an election. The poll numbers favour the conservatives right now, but the other thing to consider is that only 58% of Canadians voted in the last federal election. Nothing is for certain.
 
Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.

Forcing people into healthcare is anti-liberal.
 
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Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.

So, how's it going in Bizarro Universe these days?
 
Jesus.

Dumbest thing I've read in awhile.

Don't know what country you're talking about.

But it ain't Canada.

http://www.fpechs.com/docs/2010_01_28_ERdoctors.pdf

Canada is one of the few countries in the world, Cuba and North Korea as well, which prohibits private care, no matter what the qualifications of the doctor.

This is starting to change, only because those with money have been able to go to the States for treatment, and that the system itself is obviously failing.

It is unsustainable, and everyone should know it.

"Because of economic and demographic trends, Canadian provinces are going to have to make some tough choices when it comes to health spending. A recent article in The Economist described the scope of the challenge:

Health spending, which is administered by the provinces, has increased from nearly 35% of their budgets in 1999 to 46% today. In Ontario, the most populous province, it is set to reach 80% by 2030, leaving pennies for everything else the government does, not counting tax increases or new federal transfers. The biggest culprit is prescription drugs, which have seen their share of public-health spending triple since 1980".
 
it appears that a disproportionate share of health care dollars are spent prolonging the inevitable

maybe its time that should change

death panels, anyone?
 
we even spend too much keeping people alive who’d rather be dead

at least the bud in BC is strong enough to tune them out, and I won’t be doing 10 years for having a roach in my ashtray

death panels and dope

even better
 
^ It's sad that people know so little about Canada, and what they think they know is informed by politics only.

This thread is about the election, not UHC or death panels.
 
Not to start a war on whose country is better, but it had to be said…

I won’t claim our healthcare system is without its faults, but NOBODY gets denied because they don’t have insurance. NOBODY I know has gone broke because of an illness… From what I remember, Canada’s books weren’t in as bad a shape as the US’s when the meltdown happened, and I’d rather invest in just about ANY dollar than the US’s right now…

I’ve witnessed long waits for some people with health problems, but I’ve NEVER seen or heard of anyone dying because they couldn’t get care. As bubba pointed out, we even spend too much keeping people alive who’d rather be dead.

If you are near deaths door, you get bumped to the head of the line, pronto, even if you have to take it upon yourself to go to emergency… We have too many people using Emergency for silly reasons, that’s about it…

I would agree that is one of the dumbest things I’ve read in awhile. Not partisan at all either.

But, back to topic, yes, we have a bunch of effing yahoo’s running our country too. Canadians had two concerns of late.

  1. Keeping their jobs, job creation
  2. NO ELECTION
Ah well, at least the bud in BC is strong enough to tune them out, and I won’t be doing 10 years for having a roach in my ashtray…

Peace

Well, the US' dollar is still special. What other country could print trillions of dollars and have deflation :3
 
Forcing people into healthcare is anti-liberal.

I so agree

Why yesterday I was forced to get an xray by the health nazis of canada. I heard they are going to force prostate exams next month on everyone
 
^ It's sad that people know so little about Canada, and what they think they know is informed by politics only.

This thread is about the election, not UHC or death panels.

You'll see just as many uninformed people, including Canadians, commenting on the United States. A good way to get informed is to have your ideas and opinions challenged.
 
The results will be the same as the last election. Minority government until the parties change their leaders.
 
The results will be the same as the last election. Minority government until the parties change their leaders.

I dunno. I think the Conservatives have got a shot at winning (mainly because the other party leaders are a joke right now). And a majority Conservative party lead by Harper scares me.
 
Canada has moved so much to the Left it is in need of serious reform but I doubt it will happen any time soon.

Their Socialized medical system is in disarray and allows the ill to die rather than trying to save lives.

It should be a warning to those who back the Obama plan, but thery are Liberals and they never learn.

They've come a long way from that Commi-Lib Trudeau, and from when Mulroney got slaughtered. But they're still out there, and yes Jetboogieman... Kanuckistani Kare is a mess, and that was obvious in a couple short decades after its institution... but it's tough to take candy from children, especially when there is a medical care safety net south of the border. Ask Stronach how great the system is and why she didn't wait her turn?

They didn't have a crisis caused by the failure of the housing market because they do not have laws forcing banks to make bad loans. Quite the opposite in fact. That's a point in their favour.

Pull My Finger: People aren't just denied, they do die waiting for care. That is why the Quebec Supreme Court ruled a waiting list does not constitute medical care. I know someone right at this minute who had an eye op go bad in Kanuckistan. This person went to the doc time after time... of course waiting their turn every time during those 18-months. If this person hadn't been persistent they wouldn't be on a further waiting list to get their eye repaired. In the US this would have be handles 18-months ago.

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I dunno. I think the Conservatives have got a shot at winning (mainly because the other party leaders are a joke right now). And a majority Conservative party lead by Harper scares me.

Why would you be "scared" by a Harper government? That doesn't seem to make much sense. What are you afraid of?
 
They've come a long way from that Commi-Lib Trudeau, and from when Mulroney got slaughtered. But they're still out there, and yes Jetboogieman... Kanuckistani Kare is a mess, and that was obvious in a couple short decades after its institution... but it's tough to take candy from children, especially when there is a medical care safety net south of the border. Ask Stronach how great the system is and why she didn't wait her turn?

They didn't have a crisis caused by the failure of the housing market because they do not have laws forcing banks to make bad loans. Quite the opposite in fact. That's a point in their favour.

Pull My Finger: People aren't just denied, they do die waiting for care. That is why the Quebec Supreme Court ruled a waiting list does not constitute medical care. I know someone right at this minute who had an eye op go bad in Kanuckistan. This person went to the doc time after time... of course waiting their turn every time during those 18-months. If this person hadn't been persistent they wouldn't be on a further waiting list to get their eye repaired. In the US this would have be handles 18-months ago.

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I had skin cancer on my lip diagnosed as herpes, even though I could look at it and see it wasn't. Then waiting until it was re-diagnosed, a wait for a trip to the specialist, then a wait for the biopsy results, another wait for the operation by a butcher, then two long waits and visits to a plastic surgeon for repairs.

Many Canadians are happy with their health care because they don't know any better and believe that it's 'free'. They've become dependent and have no idea that it was once the best in the world before the bureaucracies took over. They just don't know.

And that's what will happen in te States too, just as it has happened everywhere else.
 
I had skin cancer on my lip diagnosed as herpes, even though I could look at it and see it wasn't. Then waiting until it was re-diagnosed, a wait for a trip to the specialist, then a wait for the biopsy results, another wait for the operation by a butcher, then two long waits and visits to a plastic surgeon for repairs.

Many Canadians are happy with their health care because they don't know any better and believe that it's 'free'. They've become dependent and have no idea that it was once the best in the world before the bureaucracies took over. They just don't know.

And that's what will happen in te States too, just as it has happened everywhere else.

this post causes me to question why you did come down to the lower 48 to purchase the medical care you insist is better than that available to you in canada, in addition to being more responsive to your medical needs

nothing prevented you from purchasing the medical services you required
 
this post causes me to question why you did come down to the lower 48 to purchase the medical care you insist is better than that available to you in canada, in addition to being more responsive to your medical needs

nothing prevented you from purchasing the medical services you required

I would have done that if i had realized the ballsup it would eventually become. But we're looking at hindsight here.
 
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