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White House denies regime change is part of Libya mission [edited]

So what? Tell me what kind of government would you like to see in Libya? I have been watching the word play going on it disgustingly unbelievable listening to some of these space cadets second guessing every thing.

A free and peaceful nation where the government is determined by the people and not a tinhorn tyrant.

Some are crying he should have moved sooner some are crying he should be going after Kadafi, some are crying that he should have held congressional meetings before committing and now some are taking installing a democratic system to mean that they want to install puppets like we installed in Iraq and Afganistan. the UN is running this show not the USA, the people of Libya are going to form their own government just like the people in Egypt are attempting to do.

The UN passed a resolution. They aren't running the show by any means. From what I'm reading the UN wants to give this thing to NATO.

0bama has to stand up and lead on this one. As with any military operation there will be problems, mistakes and valid criticisms.

We did not install puppet governments in Iraq or Afghanistan as you know.

I am not crazy about our decision to go into Libya but it would be a hard not to try to save the rebels looking to oust Kadafi. There are 28 NATO countries plus some Arabian countries participating, this may be the beginning of a world environment that could redefine the way that wars and conflicts are approached and settled in the future. Finally we have a united front ready to deal with a dictator who we know has caused a lot of pain and suffering around the world, isn't it time to stand up and support the President and his administration?

I support the President on this one as well. The coalition is falling apart and 0bama needs to drop the clubs and start leading.
 
When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....
 
When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....

It went something like this:

"Today I have ordered US forces to join a coalition of nations to prevent Gaddafi from killing his own people. I'm off to Rio ..... you guys handle it."
 
It went something like this:

"Today I have ordered US forces to join a coalition of nations to prevent Gaddafi from killing his own people. I'm off to Rio ..... you guys handle it."

I think you may be letting your conservative values cloud your judgement, try this go back and make believe that a Conservative President was in office if you can and then form a decision based on what you think would best serve America and the world.

Don't get to upset remember that I said "I think" that is nothing more then my opinion I did not research it so the only source I have is what I read
 
When did obama announce to us he was attacking lybia btw? i missed the prime time pre-emption to let us know....

When a man attacks Labia, he doesn't announce his intentions.
 
When a man attacks Labia, he doesn't announce his intentions.

If he doesnt thats a FOR SURE impeachment...at LEAST. Im thinking jail time...
 
A free and peaceful nation where the government is determined by the people and not a tinhorn tyrant.



The UN passed a resolution. They aren't running the show by any means. From what I'm reading the UN wants to give this thing to NATO.

0bama has to stand up and lead on this one. As with any military operation there will be problems, mistakes and valid criticisms.

We did not install puppet governments in Iraq or Afghanistan as you know.



I support the President on this one as well. The coalition is falling apart and 0bama needs to drop the clubs and start leading.

I think you may be missing the point, President Obama should continue on doing what his schedule dictates, The United States is not alone on this one the decisions are being made by NATO, Secretary Hillary Clinton is on the point as our representative and keeps the President informed, they work as a team like they should. I would specualte "my opinion again" if he had cancelled his planned trip to talk to other nations about possible trade agreements there would be a bunch that would jump up and claim that our unemployment situation was less important then Libya.

You state one thing "your support" and then use one of those clubs you reference above to drive home your real point, so not to be real repetitive I will state it again, if President Obama changed color and walked on water some would still hate him.
 
Seriously, let's leave other countries alone and take care of our own troubles first.
 
I think you may be missing the point, President Obama should continue on doing what his schedule dictates, The United States is not alone on this one the decisions are being made by NATO, Secretary Hillary Clinton is on the point as our representative and keeps the President informed, they work as a team like they should. I would specualte "my opinion again" if he had cancelled his planned trip to talk to other nations about possible trade agreements there would be a bunch that would jump up and claim that our unemployment situation was less important then Libya.

You state one thing "your support" and then use one of those clubs you reference above to drive home your real point, so not to be real repetitive I will state it again, if President Obama changed color and walked on water some would still hate him.

As it stands now, the whole opposition is a disorganized **** sammich and they'll probably start infighting as soon as *IF* Gaddaffi is removed.

But wait....The rebels are an unknown quantity and this'll end up with boots on the ground. It's gonna turn into both a cluster**** and a PR nightmare.
 
if President Obama changed color and walked on water some would still hate him.

Good lord...how pathetic. The race card now huh? Nice. Just run up your white flag and surrender already. Oh...wait...white flag...dang it...racist...this whole racism thing is a just a black hole... :doh

Couldnt be that those that disagree with him have philosophical differences on the direction he wants to take the government...right? Couldnt be that people watched inactivity for three weeks and then weak activity once he decided to engage and saw that as ineffective leadership. Nah...I guess people that dislike President Obama HAVE to be as racist as the blacks that dont like Bush...right? Or the democrats that dont like black republicans. Buncha racist democrats...sheesh...talk about going back to the 1950s...
 
I think you may be missing the point, President Obama should continue on doing what his schedule dictates, The United States is not alone on this one the decisions are being made by NATO, Secretary Hillary Clinton is on the point as our representative and keeps the President informed, they work as a team like they should. I would specualte "my opinion again" if he had cancelled his planned trip to talk to other nations about possible trade agreements there would be a bunch that would jump up and claim that our unemployment situation was less important then Libya.

You state one thing "your support" and then use one of those clubs you reference above to drive home your real point, so not to be real repetitive I will state it again, if President Obama changed color and walked on water some would still hate him.

A couple of years ago, comments like that scared people. Now, they just make your side look like idiots for even bringing it up.

When are you going to figure out that no one gives a **** that Obama is bi-racial? Except, the Liberals, of course. It's a huge deal to ya'll. It's such a big deal that ya'll insist that he's actually black.
 
A couple of years ago, comments like that scared people. Now, they just make your side look like idiots for even bringing it up.

When are you going to figure out that no one gives a **** that Obama is bi-racial? Except, the Liberals, of course. It's a huge deal to ya'll. It's such a big deal that ya'll insist that he's actually black.

Actually Im starting to see a pattern...and Im sensing this guy is actually another one of those conservatives CLAIMING to be liberal and then saying a bunch of stupid **** to make liberals look bad.
 
Actually Im starting to see a pattern...and Im sensing this guy is actually another one of those conservatives CLAIMING to be liberal and then saying a bunch of stupid **** to make liberals look bad.

Ya think that's it? :rofl
 
Ya think that's it? :rofl

Im HOPING...because if thats his honest attempt at discussion...well...sheesh...Petex2, Boo, HandH...they gots themselves a new best friend...
 
Good lord...how pathetic. The race card now huh? Nice. Just run up your white flag and surrender already. Oh...wait...white flag...dang it...racist...this whole racism thing is a just a black hole... :doh

Couldnt be that those that disagree with him have philosophical differences on the direction he wants to take the government...right? Couldnt be that people watched inactivity for three weeks and then weak activity once he decided to engage and saw that as ineffective leadership. Nah...I guess people that dislike President Obama HAVE to be as racist as the blacks that dont like Bush...right? Or the democrats that dont like black republicans. Buncha racist democrats...sheesh...talk about going back to the 1950s...

This is what I said "if" he changed colors and walked on water some would still hate him. Is that a correct quote? If so I guess you have some kind of guilt complex related to race after all it was you who brought his race into this discussion, Try this one on "if the shoe fits wear it
 
As it stands now, the whole opposition is a disorganized **** sammich and they'll probably start infighting as soon as *IF* Gaddaffi is removed.

But wait....The rebels are an unknown quantity and this'll end up with boots on the ground. It's gonna turn into both a cluster**** and a PR nightmare.

Apparently there are already "boots on the ground" in order to guide missiles specifically to locations to where Gadaffi might be hiding. Otherwise the bombs they're dropping might hit anyone, anywhere.
 
This is what I said "if" he changed colors and walked on water some would still hate him. Is that a correct quote? If so I guess you have some kind of guilt complex related to race after all it was you who brought his race into this discussion, Try this one on "if the shoe fits wear it

Color is always an issue with the Left, EarlzP, so your unnecessarily mentioning it once again brought race into a debate which had only centered around his ineptitude. People of every race and color can be incompetent, and BHO just happens to be one of them. Bill Ayers, Michael Moore and Rev. Wright, as a few examples, would also be ineffective Presidents but that would have nothing to do with their race.
 
This is what I said "if" he changed colors and walked on water some would still hate him. Is that a correct quote? If so I guess you have some kind of guilt complex related to race after all it was you who brought his race into this discussion, Try this one on "if the shoe fits wear it

Again...another one of your pathetic debate reactions. First, its accusations of thread derailment even though I responded directly to YOUR posting...then YOU inject race and claim OTHERS have aguilty conscience. Too friqin funny man. Sad...pathetic...but too friqin funny.
 
Apparently there are already "boots on the ground" in order to guide missiles specifically to locations to where Gadaffi might be hiding. Otherwise the bombs they're dropping might hit anyone, anywhere.

Oh, dear!! Obama's term as POTUS is like a comedy thats about to turn to a tragedy.
 
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