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Syria unrest: Thousands march in Deraa

i don't believe it. i am assured by the very highest officials that Assad is a "reformer".
 
Another week and more evidence of the truly brutal nature of the Assad dictatorship.

The Syrian people are getting exactly what they deserve.

Syrians flooded into Iraq before and after OIF to fight the coalition.

Hopefully the few remaining decent people will leave Syria and the rest can fight each other into extinction.
 
From today's edition of The Washington Post:

In his almost 11 years in office, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has brought about some remarkable changes to a country formerly run by his notoriously ruthless father, fueling perceptions that he is at heart a reformer, albeit one who has been held back by hard-liners intent on preserving the status quo...

Yet in all those years, the younger Assad has implemented not one measure that would relax the ruling Baath Party’s 48-year-long hold on power, lift the draconian laws that enable the security forces to operate with impunity or ease restrictions on free speech.

Syrian President Assad blows his reformist credentials - The Washington Post

There never were any reformist credentials to begin with. That notion was mere hope and illusion, nothing more. That such a myth persisted is remarkable given the evidence that ran against it. Indeed, the two quoted passages from the news article cited above are contradictory. The logical question to ask was if Mr. Assad is a reformist, why wasn't he taking substantive measures to ease his party's grip on power and to make the political system more inclusive and competitive? The reality is that he is not a reformist and never was. As noted early in this thread, Bashar Assad is a brutal tyrant. One should not be fooled by his Western post-graduate studies, any more than one should have been persuaded by Saif Gadhafi's Western graduate studies, that these individuals are moderate leaders. They are not. Assadi's idea of moderation is to offer moderate rhetoric, even as the underlying substance of his policies remains largely unchanged.

Indeed, The Washington Post's article goes on to mention that Assad's youth, education, and British-born wife all fueled speculation that he was a moderate. In effect, certain attributes were used to transpose an image that lacked credibility. There was no credible evidence that supported the idea that Assad is a reformer. Not surprisingly, at least to those who cut through the myth that lacked foundation, he is cracking down severely on Syrians who seek a more inclusive, responsive, and democratic government. He is, as his past actions would predict, putting his regime's maintenance of power ahead of the aspirations of Syria's people and acting as ruthlessly as is necessary to succeed.
 

It is easy to revise one's view in hindsight of events. Prior to that, it appeared that Secretary Clinton shared the view held by various members of Congress that Assad was a reformer. Certainly, in a Face the Nation interview, she did not contest that view stating, "There is a different leader in Syria now, many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer."

Clinton: No military action in Syria for now - Face The Nation - CBS News

In addition, the recent Congressional assessments that Assad was a reformer, even as no concrete policy actions on his part supported such a view, raise issues about the judgment of those members of Congress. More than likely, they view things from an overly idealistic and excessively optimistic perspective that misses the fundamental realities of various dictatorships such as Mr. Assad's.
 
From today's edition of The New York Times concerning the Assad dictatorship's willingness to do what is necessary to retain power:

Syria’s ruling elite, a tight-knit circle at the nexus of absolute power, loyalty to family and a visceral instinct for survival, will fight to the end in a struggle that could cast the Middle East into turmoil and even war, warned Syria’s most powerful businessman, a confidant and cousin of President Bashar al-Assad...

“The decision of the government now is that they decided to fight,” Mr. Makhlouf said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/11/world/middleeast/11makhlouf.html
 
the reformer in action

today:

Syrian forces spread through southern towns Thursday and tightened their grip on two other cities, broadening a crackdown ahead of what could prove a pivotal day for protests against President Bashar al-Assad.

While Assad has promised reforms in the hope of dampening dissent, tanks advanced in the southern towns of Dael, Tafas, Jassem and al-Harra before Friday -- the Muslim day of prayer which has become the main day of protests across the Arab world.

A Geneva-based jurists' group said troops have killed 700 people and rounded up thousands while indiscriminately shelling towns during the nearly two-month crackdown, the biggest challenge to Assad's 11-year authoritarian rule.

Assad broadens Syria crackdown, tanks push south - Yahoo! News

are you sure this white house knows what it's doing?

days, not weeks, anyone?
 
i don't believe it. i am assured by the very highest officials that Assad is a "reformer".

He is characterized by some as such, but he has hardliners within his command structure that constrain his ability to deal.
 
...and we care about Syria because of...?
 
bombshell, baby!

today: Mideast envoy George Mitchell to resign - The Washington Post

they're jumping left and right, the security team---blair, jones, mcchrystal, hillary

the economists---romer, orszag, summers

who's left except the ax?

when hillary huffed to wolf ("no, no, no, no") her camp leaked the next day that the fugitive from foggy bottom just couldn't take it anymore

the "indecisiveness," the "amateurs"

Obama’s indecision on Libya has pushed Clinton over the edge

mitchell is a mensch, former speaker of the us house of reps, from maine

his appointment as special envoy to palestinian peace was a big deal

so carney today blacked out the cameras:

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney today turned off the briefing room lights to address reporters in an unusual off camera gaggle, taking some of the spotlight off the White House as its senior Middle East peace negotiator resigns and questions arise over whether too much information has come out about the SEAL 6 raid that killed Osama Bin Laden. Carney would not confirm the then-breaking news that Middle East envoy George Mitchell, who was at the White House, was there to tender his resignation. But Carney didn’t deny it and said a written presidential statement would be released shortly. The decision to hold the off-camera gaggle just before releasing news of the Mitchell resignation is consistent with a clear White House strategy to low-key the departure.

With the news not official, Carney didn’t have to answer questions about it, and he didn’t have to appear to be stonewalling on TV. Obama will not appear in public today with Mitchell to thank him, denying the TV cameras a platform for a cable news feast on the failure of Obama to secure peace in the Middle East after nearly two and a half years of trying. The stakes in the Middle East are huge for Obama, who came into office disparaging George W. Bush for not placing sufficient emphasis on getting a deal and who appointed Mitchell to do just that. Mitchell’s departure is tantamount to an admission of failure.

Carney may also have wanted to avoid a public spat with Defense Secretary Gates, who yesterday appeared to be suggesting that White House officials broke an agreement to keep quiet about how the Bin Laden raid went down. "Frankly, a week ago Sunday, in the Situation Room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out bin Laden. That all fell apart on Monday, the next day." Gates added that Navy SEALs who performed the operation now have concerns for the safety of their families.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/05/13/carney-ducks-off-camera-briefing/
 
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The resignation of U.S. Middle East special envoy George Mitchell on Friday puts a punctuation mark on the end of two years of high-profile meetings and quiet stalemate in the Israel-Palestinian peace process, which has all but collapsed on the Obama administration’s watch.

But this year’s developments in the region – the Arab Spring, and a consequent surprise peace deal between rival Palestinian factions brokered by Egypt – cast the Obama administration’s role further to the margins. With the White House signaling that there will be no new push for Arab-Israeli peace in a major presidential speech on the Arab Spring tentatively scheduled for Thursday, there was little reason for Mitchell to stay. Mitchell’s departure ends what had seemed, at moments, like a window of opportunity for President Barack Obama but which now seems like a two-year exercise in pure futility.

“Twenty-plus months in, we’ve got no negotiations, no chance of an agreement, and an administration that’s been frustrated on what it thought might be its signature issue,” said Aaron David Miller, a former State Department negotiator, who called Mitchell’s departure “sad.” “This is a guy with a brilliant career who succeeded at just about everything he’s done and was convinced that there’s no conflict that couldn’t be resolved with enough will. And now he finds himself having to leave without results,” he said.

The American efforts ground to a halt last fall, when Palestinian leaders insisted on – and the U.S. tried and failed to deliver – a continued Israeli moratorium on construction on contested land. The focus on a settlement was Obama’s choice and was seen by both sides as a mistake. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas remarked to Newsweek recently that it was “Obama who suggested a full settlement freeze. I said, ‘OK, I accept.’ We both went up the tree. After that, he came down with a ladder and he removed the ladder and said to me; ‘Jump.’ ”

[T]he peace between Hamas and Fatah last month stunned both American and Israeli observers and deeply complicated negotiations between Israel and a partner now linked to militants who regularly fire rockets at Israel civilians. The revolt in Syria, meanwhile, scuttled peace talks between Syria and Israel that had been the subject of lengthy shuttle diplomacy by a top Mitchell deputy, Fred Hoff.

For an administration that already has its hands full in the Middle East, the Hamas-Fatah deal appears to have frozen U.S. attempts to capitalize on the Arab Spring for the purposes of Arab-Israeli peace. Now, Obama’s Middle East speech next week will not include a heavy focus on Israel and the Palestinians, White House officials say. And meetings next week with Jordan’s King Abdullah and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will likely focus on broader regional questions.

surprised?

George Mitchell's exit marks low point in peace process - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
 
thank you, i caught it after the edit window closed

absolutely, i was wrong---the stud was senate majority leader, 89 to 95, from maine
 
very big news, my friends, very sadly ominous

yesterday was nakba, anniversary of israel's founding

a great deal of violence on israel's 3 borders---syria, lebanon and gaza

thousands of muslim protesters marching on border villages, israeli troops opening fire

firebombs in the west bank and jerusalem

a truck driver plowing into a crowd in tel aviv

israel sees iran's fingerprints in the north

some backdrop---the hamas-fatah deal two weeks ago, george mitchell's exit friday

coming up---obama's major "arab spring address" thursday

Israel-Palestinian violence erupts on three borders | Reuters

Eight killed as Israeli troops open fire on Nakba Day border protests | World news | The Guardian

Video and Photos of Nakba Day Riots and

Eight said killed as IDF fires on infiltrators from Syria and Lebanon - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terr...-turn-deadly.-Israel-sees-Iran-s-fingerprints.
 
cnn's anderson cooper (the son of the poor little rich girl, gloria vanderbilt) just five minutes ago broadcast a video from deraa that's up on the internet, appears to be recorded on some local's cell phone, anderson said he couldn't vouch for it...

it showed an ambulance trying to make its way thru sniper fire to retrieve a victim or victims

the driver was shot, he appeared to be dead or very badly injured, no way any sniper could have mistaken the medic for anything other

cooper then aired a film he said he'd had showing a teen, flat on the ground vs sniper fire, shot while already down and bleeding very fast

cooper said he had another which he wouldn't show of a younger child being badly or hurt or "probably killed"

cooper was unequivocal in stressing that these innocents were targeted, scoped

obama tomorrow is making his big "arab spring address"

the world is watching

pray
 
hamas and fatah signed an agreement two weeks ago brokered by egypt

Rival Palestinian regimes of Hamas, Fatah reconcile in deal brokered by Egypt | cleveland.com

today in his highly anticipated major address on arab spring, barack the slasher hussein sided with those who deal with terrorists

President Barack Obama is endorsing the Palestinians' demand for their future state to be based on the borders that existed before the 1967 Middle East war, in a move that will likely infuriate Israel. Israel says the borders of a Palestinian state have to be determined through negotiations.

In a speech outlining U.S. policy in the Middle East and North Africa, Obama on Thursday sided with the Palestinians' opening position a day ahead of a visit to Washington by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu is vehemently opposed to referring to the 1967 borders.

Until Thursday, the U.S. position had been that the Palestinian goal of a state based on the 1967 borders, with agreed land swaps, should be reconciled with Israel's desire for a secure Jewish state through negotiations.

Obama says Palestine must be based in 1967 borders - Yahoo! News

know the man
 
in his big arab spring address this morning, obama says we must "change our approach" to the middle east

and here's what HE's prepared to do:

Key Points in Mr. Obama's Speech:

In the months ahead the US must use all its resources to encourage reform in North Africa and the Middle East

Will cut $1bn of debt for a democratic Egypt and work to create Enterprise Funds to invest in Tunisia and Egypt

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad must lead a political transition or "get out of the way"

US will continue to insist the Iranian people deserve their universal rights, and a government that does not smother their aspirations

Mass arrests and brute force in Bahrain are at odds with the universal rights of Bahrain's citizens.

The borders of Israel and a Palestinian state should be based on pre-1967 borders with agreed swaps

BBC News - Barack Obama presses for Middle East reform

when it comes to the palestinian peace process, obama sees it's "up to israelis and palestinians to take action"

well, that's just great, barry

but tell us

is all this gonna happen before or after you meet with the leaders of iran, without preconditions?

in other words, get real

embarrassed yet?
 
yesterday in yemen:

Hundreds of suspected al-Qaeda gunmen have captured the southern Yemeni city of Zinjibar after heavy fighting with security forces. Government officials said that the provincial capital was under the control of militants after fighting that began on Friday and had claimed 16 lives, including civilians.

The fighters "were able to gain control of the city of Zinjibar and took over all government facilities" a security official told AFP. Only the headquarters of the the 25th mechanised brigade was holding out, he added, but it was besieged by the gunmen.

A local resident said: "About 300 Islamic millitants and al-Qaeda men came into Zinjibar and took over everything on Friday."

Zinjibar is the capital of Abyan province in south central Yemen. The impoverished state, which was the ancestral homeland of Osama bin Laden, has been wracked by violence amid protests to end President Ali Abdullah Saleh's near 33-year rule.

Washington considers al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula - the Yemen-based al-Qaeda franchise - to be the world's most active terrorist cell.

Al-Qaeda gunmen seize Yemen city Zinjiba - Telegraph

obama has defined american national security as interested in maintaining un and nato credibility and protecting civilian lives in libya which evidently requires bombing the smithereens outta tripoli and ongoing attempts to assassinate gadhaffi in a de facto effort to institute regime change

but in what for half a century has been the center of united states interest in the middle east---israel and the gulf---the white house appears completely out of touch

do you all know exactly where yemen is?

are you aware that syria, land of the reformer assad, lies just across the upper jordan from zefat?

do you know the reformer's relations with hamas, hezbolloah, iran?

yet foggy bottom focuses on the mediterranean hiway traversed so transiently by wavell and rommel

why?
 
yesterday's wapo:

U.S. officials say Iran is dispatching increasing numbers of trainers and advisers — including members of its elite Quds Force — into Syria to help crush anti-government demonstrations that are threatening to topple Iran’s most important ally in the region.

The influx of Iranian manpower is adding to a steady stream of aid from Tehran that includes not only weapons and riot gear but also sophisticated surveillance equipment that is helping Syrian authorities track down opponents through their Facebook and Twitter accounts, the sources said. Iranian-assisted computer surveillance is believed to have led to the arrests of hundreds of Syrians seized from their homes in recent weeks.

The new assertions — provided by two U.S. officials and a diplomat from an allied nation, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive intelligence — are clearly aimed at suggesting deepening involvement of Iranian military personnel in Syria’s brutal crackdown against anti-Assad demonstrators.

In the account provided by the diplomat and the U.S. officials, the Iranian military trainers were being brought to Damascus to instruct Syrians in techniques Iran used against the nation’s “Green Movement’’ in 2009, the diplomat said. The Iranians were brutally effective in crushing those protests.

Iran reportedly aiding Syrian crackdown - The Washington Post
 
Hmm, this Bashir Assad seems to be as brutal as Ghaddafi.
 
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