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U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

I'm okay with it, as long as the US doesn't end up landing 150'000 troops.
 
zimmer said:
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm... are we going to hear the leftists call The One a "warmonger"?

Protest with Hitler signs?

No War for Oil?

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If he's going to be called a warmonger he could at least try to be a good one while he's at it.

What's going on in Afghanistan?
 
Four Qatari jets currently reported to fly in Libyan airspace. Good to have an Arab nation join us.
 
Juiposa said:
I'm okay with it, as long as the US doesn't end up landing 150'000 troops.
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We might as well break camp and go home, then. A no-fly zone, by itself, isn't going to accomplish anything.

Something like this, to be successful, has to have a long term committment. The Brits and the French can't carry on sustained long term operations that are needed here. Qatar sure as hell can't. They will find a jumping off point and leave the United States holding the bag. There's already alot more American involvement that we were told there was going to be and I'm sure that we'll become more and more involved in the coming weeks.
 
paris said:
Four Qatari jets currently reported to fly in Libyan airspace. Good to have an Arab nation join us.
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Have they flown any actual sorties, yet? Or, is it just a dog-n-pony show at this point?
 
apdst said:
We might as well break camp and go home, then. A no-fly zone, by itself, isn't going to accomplish anything.

Something like this, to be successful, has to have a long term committment. The Brits and the French can't carry on sustained long term operations that are needed here. Qatar sure as hell can't. They will find a jumping off point and leave the United States holding the bag. There's already alot more American involvement that we were told there was going to be and I'm sure that we'll become more and more involved in the coming weeks.
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Without regime change this is all a waste of time and money.
 
apdst said:
Have they flown any actual sorties, yet? Or, is it just a dog-n-pony show at this point?
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What do you mean by actual sorties? They are flying over Libya. What more do you want?
 
Ron Mars said:
We have started hitting Gaddafi's tank and infantry units outside of Misrata and Benghazi?

This was from your own link Spud.

Colonel Gaddafi earlier flouted his own ceasefire and the UN resolution by continuing heavy artillery bombardment on the eastern city as tanks were reported in the streets.

I support this effort but have lots of problems with it. What happened to "Gaddafi must leave"?
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Ousting of Gaddafi is not part of the UN resolution.
 
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paris said:
What do you mean by actual sorties? They are flying over Libya. What more do you want?
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I want to see smoking tanks and artillery positions.

I want Gaddafi and his murdering scum running for their lives with the rebels right on their heels.
 
paris said:
Ousting of Gaddafi is not part of the UN resolution.
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I'm well aware of that.

It was kinda why I was asking what has changed from a few weeks ago when the US position was "Gaddafi must leave"?
 
Ron Mars said:
I want to see smoking tanks and artillery positions.

I want Gaddafi and his murdering scum running for their lives with the rebels right on their heels.
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What you want and what the UN resolution is about is a whole different thing, fortunately.
 
“The violence must stop. Moammar Gadhafi has lost legitimacy to lead, and he must leave," the president said. "Those who perpetrate violence against the Libyan people will be held accountable.”
Obama: Gadhafi 'Must Leave' | News | English

Has the US dropped this policy? If so why?
 
Ron Mars said:
I'm well aware of that.

It was kinda why I was asking what has changed from a few weeks ago when the US position was "Gaddafi must leave"?
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The UN resolution, that's what have changed from a few weeks ago.
 
paris said:
What you want and what the UN resolution is about is a whole different thing, fortunately.
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Without air strikes against Gaddafi's ground forces to aid the rebels this will all be for nothing. Especially if Gaddafi is allowed to stay in power.

Hopefully deliberate attacks against his loyal ground forces will increase/begin soon.

BTW UN 1973 authorizes the use of force against Gaddafi's ground units.
 
Ron Mars said:
Without air strikes against Gaddafi's ground forces to aid the rebels this will all be for nothing. Especially if Gaddafi is allowed to stay in power.

Hopefully deliberate attacks against his loyal ground forces will increase/begin soon.

BTW UN 1973 authorizes the use of force against Gaddafi's ground units.
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Only to protect civilians.
 
Ron Mars said:
It sure is.

That the very body that gave Gaddafi a seat on the UNHRC is now determining US foreign policy is quite a change. Not for the better.
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The US must have been happy with the UN resolution 1973 otherwise it would have been vetoed. You are aware the US is one of a very few with that power. If not, check the last resolutions concerning Israel.
 
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paris said:
The US must have been happy with the UN resolution 1973 otherwise it would have been vetoed. You are aware the US is one of a very few with that power. If not, check the last resolutions concerning Israel.
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I don't care if the UN has authorized the removal of Gaddafi or not.

The US has stated its position is that "Gaddafi must leave" and I have not heard that has been rescinded.

So the statements and policies of the US President don't matter anymore if the UN doesn't pre-approve them?
 
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