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DEA Seizes Key Execution Drug in Georgia

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The Drug Enforcement Administration on Tuesday seized the state of Georgia's supply of a key lethal injection drug less than two months after the state executed a man who unsuccessfully argued it was bought from a "fly-by-night" supplier in Britain.
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Yes, states are required to obey the law too, or are they? What about California, with its marijuana dispensaries? I imagine that there are now going to be 2 groups in a quandary over Federal laws:

1) Those who support marijuana, but are against the death penalty.

AND

2) Those who support the death penalty, but are against medical marijuana.

Damn, it sucks to be them, doesn't it? Not really. They will just continue to say that it's OK in the case they favor, and protest against the other case. Why?........

ANSWER: Because that's politics - Collections of interests disguised as ideologies. :mrgreen:

Article is here.
 
Who gives a damn where the drug is from if it works.

I do wish we would go back to public hangings and the convict would here: Having found guilty you will be taken from here to a place of execution where at Sunrise tomorrow you will be hanged by the neck until Dead.
 
danarhea said:
Yes, states are required to obey the law too, or are they? What about California, with its marijuana dispensaries? I imagine that there are now going to be 2 groups in a quandary over Federal laws:

1) Those who support marijuana, but are against the death penalty.

AND

2) Those who support the death penalty, but are against medical marijuana.

Damn, it sucks to be them, doesn't it? Not really. They will just continue to say that it's OK in the case they favor, and protest against the other case. Why?........

ANSWER: Because that's politics - Collections of interests disguised as ideologies. :mrgreen:

Article is here.
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I'm number 1 on your list, what should I say?
 
Councilman said:
Who gives a damn where the drug is from if it works.

I do wish we would go back to public hangings and the convict would here: Having found guilty you will be taken from here to a place of execution where at Sunrise tomorrow you will be hanged by the neck until Dead.
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If it came from the black market, then I don't want it. I could be supporting the Mafia and drug cartels, for all I know.
 
danarhea said:
If it came from the black market, then I don't want it. I could be supporting the Mafia and drug cartels, for all I know.
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You don't know.

This seizure had nothing to do with drug laws or worrying about the source and everything to do with using a flimsy excuse to stymie the use of the DP. It was ALL about politics, and even your thread is political ideology trying to pass off as not.
 
With sodium thiopental in short supply nationally, Georgia corrections officials ordered the drug from a pharmaceutical distributor in London, England, DeYoung attorney John Bentivoglio wrote in the February 24 letter.
The state received 50 vials of sodium thiopental in July, Bentivoglio said, citing public records.
But Bentivoglio said the state was not registered to import the controlled substance and failed to notify DEA about the shipment.
"I think it raises very troubling questions about the lengths to which they would go to pursue lethal injections when that process requires careful attention to the integrity of the process," Bentivoglio told Reuters on Tuesday.
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U.S. agents seize Georgia execution drug supply - Yahoo! News


Seriously?


I say screw the damn injections and just shoot em in the head.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Still doesn't make sense to me.

"less government, small government!"

"you can't trust government!"

However, I completely trust government to put people to death and not **** it up,

Id like to see how happy you'd be on the other end of a rifle after a rushed conviction...
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I love you Jet, but this isn't a discussion about the conviction or evidence, it's a discussion about the methods used to put to death a properly convicted criminal. In this case the State of Georgia is being accused of buying black market drugs and failing to register them with the DEA. One of the claims by the defense attorney's is that the drugs might be past their use and case pain during execution process.

Seriously?


As for convictions and government not screwing up....

We could go round and round and round on that one, but we don't have RUSHED convictions here, we have 10 year waits to put people down. And that's in FAST states. Cali has people that have rotted for 20-30 years tried, convicted.. never executed.

I don't dismiss legitimate concerns about past mistakes, and believe the older the conviction, the more correct extra scrutiny is. but modern convictions, with DNA and other evidence? No, don't really worry bout those.
 
MrVicchio said:
I love you Jet, but this isn't a discussion about the conviction or evidence, it's a discussion about the methods used to put to death a properly convicted criminal. In this case the State of Georgia is being accused of buying black market drugs and failing to register them with the DEA. One of the claims by the defense attorney's is that the drugs might be past their use and case pain during execution process.

Seriously?


As for convictions and government not screwing up....

We could go round and round and round on that one, but we don't have RUSHED convictions here, we have 10 year waits to put people down. And that's in FAST states. Cali has people that have rotted for 20-30 years tried, convicted.. never executed.

I don't dismiss legitimate concerns about past mistakes, and believe the older the conviction, the more correct extra scrutiny is. but modern convictions, with DNA and other evidence? No, don't really worry bout those.
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DNA isn't the end all be all, you can have some DNA evidence that can't fully constrict who the suspect is. Illinois did a study and had found something like 1/3 of their state killings were people innocent of the charged crime. When the put the moretorium up, they found that about half the people on death row were not guilty of the crime they were sentenced for. They finally did the right thing and ended it. The death penalty consumes innocent life, you can be really careful like CO and not really use the death penalty (we have HUGE restrictions on attempting to get the DP, as a result we have very very few people on death row); but it's best to just not have it. It's no longer a necessity and state sanctioned killing of its own people...not maybe the thing I would like best for government to do.
 
I'm against marijuana being legal and I'm against the death penalty. I'm such a misfit :(
 
I have several points and not much time.
#1
The federal government requires states to register and process all drug-purchases for the use of lethal injection / care with the DEA because the DEA oversees and intercedes in this area concerning drugs and foreign markets.

#2
The state of Georgia did not comply with these regulations - until they investigate where it came from and who manufactured it there's no guarantee of it's quality.

#3
There is a lot to be answered for when any method of execution doesn't happen correctly.

#4
This has nothing to do with political ideologies - but more so accountability. If Georgia had followd the rules it could have obtained it without qualms.

#5
The Irony behind having to get said drugs from foreign sources to kill our own people is ridiculous - thanks to outsourcing and failed economic policies.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I have several points and not much time.
#1
The federal government requires states to register and process all drug-purchases for the use of lethal injection / care with the DEA because the DEA oversees and intercedes in this area concerning drugs and foreign markets.

#2
The state of Georgia did not comply with these regulations - until they investigate where it came from and who manufactured it there's no guarantee of it's quality.

#3
There is a lot to be answered for when any method of execution doesn't happen correctly.

#4
This has nothing to do with political ideologies - but more so accountability. If Georgia had followd the rules it could have obtained it without qualms.

#5
The Irony behind having to get said drugs from foreign sources to kill our own people is ridiculous - thanks to outsourcing and failed economic policies.
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I just had a twisted thought. Since we don't really know where the drugs are coming from, they could be coming from Al-Qaeda, for all we know. Who knows? Could their desire for a jihad against America include sending execution drugs through the black market? After all, they could announce that they were once more able to kill Americans on American soil.

I know, I know. Tacky, tacky. :mrgreen:
 
Ahh Nathan Deal, what an idiot.
 
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