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Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

Walter said:
So the majority of Society are watching queer eye for the straight guy? And this conclusion in spite of the fact that over 40 states have laws ( a reflection of their morality) on the books that condemns the perversion for what it is. Keep trying to tell people that up is down and black is what, white? it seems to go well with the round peg, square hole theory.
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Do you actually address what is said? And do you know that what you are arguing makes no sense? 40 states have rejected gay marriage. What does that mean? That 40 states have rejected gay marriage. It does NOT mean that 40 states have rejected homosexuality. What you are attempting to do is called a non-sequitur logical fallacy. That is why this argument of yours makes no sense.
 
Jetboogieman said:
So let me ask you a base question.

What makes it a perversion?
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No, let him address my question about the mathematics of "normal/deviant" first. It will be easier.
 
Walter said:
So the majority of Society are watching queer eye for the straight guy? And this conclusion in spite of the fact that over 40 states have laws ( a reflection of their morality) on the books that condemns the perversion for what it is. Keep trying to tell people that up is down and black is what, white? it seems to go well with the round peg, square hole theory.
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Perhaps not, but a majority of Marylanders approve of gay marriage. And norms have little to do with morality. For awhile in this country, owning slavery was considered a norm. Segregation was considered a norm. Interracial marriages were considered to be against the norm. Social norms have little to do with morality.
 
Walter said:
So the majority of Society are watching queer eye for the straight guy? And this conclusion in spite of the fact that over 40 states have laws ( a reflection of their morality) on the books that condemns the perversion for what it is. Keep trying to tell people that up is down and black is what, white? it seems to go well with the round peg, square hole theory.
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What is the voting percentages of those states? When were these laws put into place and have any of them come back up to be overturned?

I'd say that there are plenty of people who really don't care if two men or two women are allowed to legally marry but they don't consider it something that would motivate them to waste their time just to vote on. Another thing that doesn't help, is certain religious organizations that put out false information about what allowing SSM to be legal will cause.
 
Walter;1059347700[B said:
]So the majority of Society are watching queer eye for the straight guy?[/B] And this conclusion in spite of the fact that over 40 states have laws ( a reflection of their morality) on the books that condemns the perversion for what it is. Keep trying to tell people that up is down and black is what, white? it seems to go well with the round peg, square hole theory. You simply cannot force your twisted sense of morality upon people.....regardless of how much you attempt to deceive people...even yourself.
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I'm gay, and I wouldn't watch that ****ty show EVER!!!!

Seriously, you know nothing about actual LGBT people, and your world view of them is nothing but stereotypes. I feel sorry for you.
 
Looks like the GOP will need a new witchunt/scapegoat
 
StillBallin75 said:
Perhaps not, but a majority of Marylanders approve of gay marriage. And norms have little to do with morality. For awhile in this country, owning slavery was considered a norm. Segregation was considered a norm. Interracial marriages were considered to be against the norm. Social norms have little to do with morality.
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Like I said, if he is using "normal/deviant" as a mathematical scale, he's correct... as are my examples of lefthandedness and being Jewish in the US. If he is using it as a societal norm, only, since these things change over time, the point is irrelevant.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Like I said, if he is using "normal/deviant" as a mathematical scale, he's correct... as are my examples of lefthandedness and being Jewish in the US. If he is using it as a societal norm, only, since these things change over time, the point is irrelevant.
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Yeah I don't see how he can argue his way out of this one.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Like I said, if he is using "normal/deviant" as a mathematical scale, he's correct... as are my examples of lefthandedness and being Jewish in the US. If he is using it as a societal norm, only, since these things change over time, the point is irrelevant.
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So Jews shouldn't marry?
 
this most recent murder of gay marriage at the state level was committed by a legislative body that is 98 dems and 43 reprobates

fyi
 
founded by lord baltimore
 
It's always interesting when the American right wing comes out in opposition of the so called 'nanny state' defining who should own and shouldn't own guns but has no issue with them imposing their definition of marriage on others. I mean even on the left you can find pro-gun advocates. Good-luck finding any prominent right winger who is adamantly pro-gay rights.
 
tell it to the 98 dem delegates
 
Liberals aren't you so glad Preznit O'Bummer has got your back?:blah:
 
Kane said:
Liberals aren't you so glad Preznit O'Bummer has got your back?:blah:
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I doubt those of us who support SSM would be better off with McCain on this issue alone.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
None of these things are immoral. Taking God out of the classroom is completely appropriate... unless you think that ALL religions should be represented, which would be what needs to occur, not just Christianity. Teaching kids how to use a condom correctly is one of the most effective methods of preventing unwanted pregnancy and STDs. And prove that homosexuality is NOT normal... but first, define normal.
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lol...wow. This is liberalism at its core. No talking to "people" like this. If you think that is normal thats between you and God.
 
Deuce said:
Says who?

Here's my take on personal freedom. I have the right to do anything and everything that I want to do, unless the government can show some reason for denying me that right. Usually this will involve that act doing harm to others somehow.

Government, why can't I shoot people randomly on the street?
Well, Deuce, because that would injure and/or kill them, taking away their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Oh, ok, that makes sense.

Government, why can't I fly passengers in a rickety old airplane that hasn't been inspected by a mechanic since the Truman administration?
Well, Deuce, that puts those passengers into a great risk, and a risk they have no way of analyzing themselves. Sorry.
Oh, ok, that makes sense.

Government, I'm a dude. Why can't I marry a dude?

Walter/Big Tom: insert an answer for me.
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I feel sorry for you. If you belive all that thats between you and God.
 
Big Tom said:
lol...wow. This is liberalism at its core. No talking to "people" like this. If you think that is normal thats between you and God.
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You know better than to make assertions without backing up your argument. You aren't right because you say so.

You haven't explained how "taking God out of the classroom" is immoral. You haven't explained how teaching kids to put a condom over a cucumber is immoral. There's really no reasoning with people who believe **** but can't explain their position.
 
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