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Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

So, you agree that homosexuals do not fall under the "middle tier"? Zyphlin, you should thank him for doing your work.

What?
2. MIDDLE-TIER SCRUTINY
1. Gender
2. Illegitimacy

One sex can do something the other can't. Of course it is gender discrimination.


SSM isn't only about homosexuals. They are the only ones who would want to (I assume), but that doesn't change the fact that no one has the right (except in a few states) to marry a person of the same gender.
Males can marry females. Females can't. How is that not gender discrimination?
 
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Wow!

So homosexuals don't love eachother at all?

And they all want to do it JUST for the benefit right?

Well if we're going to talk about costing tax payers a fortune, lets get rid of marriage benefits all together.

I mean honestly.

Only heterosexuals get married for love.

Look at this happy couple:

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Pulling the love card does not work. Pedophilles may love the child they are molesting and an Incestuous father may love the daughter hes molesting...LOVE doesnt make abnormal, normal get it right.
No matter what any niceynices people try to portray homosexuality with its ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR period. If it were normal two men and two women having sex would be able to pro create..
Everyone should attend in person a gay paraded in San Francisco and NYC so they can see firsthand just how abnormal and sickening homosexuality is....do whatever you want in public but do not try and tell me its normal and you deserve the same rights to marriage and benefits as a man and a woman...What homosexuals deserve is the same rights as any other single male and female american
 
Pulling the love card does not work. Pedophilles may love the child they are molesting and an Incestuous father may love the daughter hes molesting...LOVE doesnt make abnormal, normal get it right.[\QUOTE]

Straw man.

I did not imply love makes anything normal.

But even mentioning pedophiles in this thread is a fallacy.

A child cannot consent.

Try again.

No matter what any niceynices people try to portray homosexuality with its ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR period. If it were normal two men and two women having sex would be able to pro create..
Everyone should attend in person a gay paraded in San Francisco and NYC so they can see firsthand just how abnormal and sickening homosexuality is....do whatever you want in public but do not try and tell me its normal and you deserve the same rights to marriage and benefits as a man and a woman...What homosexuals deserve is the same rights as any other single male and female american

Your own prejudices are yours. I cant help you here.
 
Pulling the love card does not work. Pedophilles may love the child they are molesting and an Incestuous father may love the daughter hes molesting...LOVE doesnt make abnormal, normal get it right.
No matter what any niceynices people try to portray homosexuality with its ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR period. If it were normal two men and two women having sex would be able to pro create..
Everyone should attend in person a gay paraded in San Francisco and NYC so they can see firsthand just how abnormal and sickening homosexuality is....do whatever you want in public but do not try and tell me its normal and you deserve the same rights to marriage and benefits as a man and a woman...What homosexuals deserve is the same rights as any other single male and female american

This implies children are equal to adults in reasoning, which is false. You might as well make the argument that black people shouldn't be allowed to vote because children can't.

The oppression of a minority by a majority does not make the minority inherently wrong and the majority inherently right.
 
No matter what any niceynices people try to portray homosexuality with its ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR period. If it were normal two men and two women having sex would be able to pro create..

Abnormal for what goal? Procreation? Hell that's past abnormal, that's bloodly well into impossibility. Pleasure? If you achieve pleasure AND it's with another consentint adult(s) then how can you say whether it's normal or not. Maybe not normal for YOU. My wife and I and our girlfriend are into BDSM. We derive pleasure from being bound and from certain levels of pain. This is quite normal for us and for a large number of people, not just in the US but worldwide.

In addition abnormal is not automatically bad. It is simply that which is not normal or common. Having electricity in the house was at one time abnormal. Does that mean it was bad? No. Did some people think it was bad? Yes.
 
What?
2. MIDDLE-TIER SCRUTINY
1. Gender
2. Illegitimacy

One sex can do something the other can't. Of course it is gender discrimination.


SSM isn't only about homosexuals. They are the only ones who would want to (I assume), but that doesn't change the fact that no one has the right (except in a few states) to marry a person of the same gender.
Males can marry females. Females can't. How is that not gender discrimination?

Both sexes can get married, it's not gender discrimination. You're grasping at straws to give your argument legitimacy. Homosexuals are covered under "third tier" protections.
 
The oppression of a minority by a majority does not make the minority inherently wrong and the majority inherently right.

Or vice versa.
 
So, you agree that homosexuals do not fall under the "middle tier"? Zyphlin, you should thank him for doing your work.

Where did I ever suggest "homosexuals" fall under the middle teir? Show me one time I mentioned "homosexuals" being protected under the EPC.

I've argued that gender/sexual discrimination falls under the middle teir. I talk about Same Sex Marriage, not "Homosexual marriage". My arguments got jack crap to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality.
 
Both sexes can get married, it's not gender discrimination.

Men can marry women. Women can't marry women however. That means under the law a man can do something a woman isn't legally allowed to do.

Women can marry a man. A man can't marry a man. That means under teh law a woman can do something a man isn't legally allowed to do.

This is an issue of discrimination. Let me change it for you.

Athiests can marry Religious people. Religious people can't marry religious people.
Religious people can marry Athiests. Athiests can't marry athiests.

I guess that'd be perfectly legal and constitutional in your mind and unquestionably wouldn't be subject to the EPC because hey...religious and non-religious people can both be married, who cares if the law restricts who they can marry based on their religious views.

Or how about this.

White people can marry non-whites, and non-whites can marry whites, but whites can't marry whites and non-whites can't marry non-whites.

I guess that'd be perfectly okay too. I mean, every race can still get married so who cares that it restricts who they can get married to.

You're grasping at straws to give your argument legitimacy. Homosexuals are covered under "third tier" protections.

Please demonstrate how stating its a gender discrimination is grasping at straws. Saying "they can both get married" doesn't disprove the fact that men can't do what women can do and vise versa.
 
Both sexes can get married, it's not gender discrimination. You're grasping at straws to give your argument legitimacy. Homosexuals are covered under "third tier" protections.

As I said before "SSM isn't only about homosexuals.... One sex can do something the other can't."
That IS gender discrimination.
 
The existence of chimeric hermaphrodites is why not allowing same sex marriage is discrimination. There exist people who are both genetically male and genetically female. If we allow them to marry, they would technically be allowed to legally marry BOTH genders (which discriminates against person's of a single gender who cannot marry both genders). If we don't allow them to marry, we discriminate against them based on their gender.
 
Men can marry women. Women can't marry women however. That means under the law a man can do something a woman isn't legally allowed to do.

Women can marry a man. A man can't marry a man. That means under teh law a woman can do something a man isn't legally allowed to do.

As I said before "SSM isn't only about homosexuals.... One sex can do something the other can't."
That IS gender discrimination.

It isn't discrimination. It's categorizing. Both sexes have equal opportunity to marry.
 
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It isn't discrimination. It's categorizing. Both sexes have equal opportunity to marry.

No, they don't. Both sexes can do something the other sex can't do under the law.

Lovely how you skipped over my other examples and refused to answer any of them. Are those "categorizing" as well? Could you explain why those are "different" if that's what you think?
 
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