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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems

MADISON, Wis. — Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate voted Wednesday night to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber's missing Democrats.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker's so-called "budget repair bill" — a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall.

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, which spends no money, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved the bill a short time later.

The lone Democrat present on the conference committee, Rep. Tony Barca, shouted that the surprise meeting was a violation of the state's open meetings law but Republicans voted over his objections. The Senate then convened within minutes and passed it without discussion or debate.

Spectators in the gallery screamed "You are cowards."

I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.
 
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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems



I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.

Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.
 
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Since there was no quorum, it will not stand up in court. The Wisconsin State Supreme Court will overturn this in short order.
 
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Since there was no quorum, it will not stand up in court. The Wisconsin State Supreme Court will overturn this in short order.

So you say....


j-mac
 
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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems



I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.

Just so there's no misunderstanding, I thanked you for posting 15-minute-old news. Good job. I don't agree with your comment.

Wow. Just wow. Well, I guess the Democrats didn't see this coming....or maybe they did, but knew there was little they could do to stop it.

Now let's see if all those people who said, "HEY!!!!! The Dems are just using the rules...." will say the same thing about Republicans.

Wow. Just wow.

Edit: Bunch of courageous Republicans. I am now absolutely certain they honestly believe they are doing the right thing for the state of Wisconsin.
 
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Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.

Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers' influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

Gheeze Dana, you really are a cliche' of liberal hates and talking points, why not just drop the pretense and declare already?


j-mac
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

So you say...
 
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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems



I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.

The republicans just like the democrats are supporting and enacting legislation their constituents support and opposing and preventing legislation their constituents do not want. I say good for the republicans for finding a way to get this done.
 
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Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state,

All evidence and facts to the contrary... but go on...


and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.

Tomorrow, they'll be out of office.

Go GOP!

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All evidence and facts to the contrary... but go on...




Tomorrow, they'll be out of office.

Go GOP!

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Troll.


j-mac
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers' influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

the monetary concessions for this year would have fixed this year's budget; it would not have fixed the structural imbalances that produce massive growth in the single largest expense item for local and state governments and lead to budgets. Leaving the public unions in power but accepting a temporary cut from them would have been the equivalent of treating gangrene with perfume; it only solves the immediate stink.
 
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Since there was no quorum, it will not stand up in court. The Wisconsin State Supreme Court will overturn this in short order.

It will stand up if the quorum requirements are only for funding.
 
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The republicans just like the democrats are supporting and enacting legislation their constituents support and opposing and preventing legislation their constituents do not want. I say good for the republicans for finding a way to get this done.

False. The Police and Fire Departments formally backed Scott Walker for governor and then turned on him when he went after collective bargaining. The GOP is overreaching.

One thing I always thought conservatives could understand was that people don't like it when you take away their rights - aren't they always whining about gun rights and the like - they're done.
 
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:) one of the hilarious aspects of this? Rachel Maddow opened her show telling the unions that they had won, and proceeded straight into a victory party for her entire opening bit. (yes, occasionally i watch rachel maddow)
 
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One thing I always thought conservatives could understand was that people don't like it when you take away their rights

the ability of a private group such as a union to overturn representative democracy at will is not a right.
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers' influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

And what about tomarrow? Next month? A year from now? How long would it be before they demanded everything that they conceeded to be given back/increased again? How long would it be before they're demands were made larger?
 
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Edit: Bunch of courageous Republicans. I am now absolutely certain they honestly believe they are doing the right thing for the state of Wisconsin.

This has nothing to do with Wisconsin. It's all about 2012 and Obama.
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers' influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

No. What this is really about is a teachers' union that has stood in the way of every worthwhile education reform for the past 30 years, with the exception of those that directly benefited the teachers' union itself. **** them.
 
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:) one of the hilarious aspects of this? Rachel Maddow opened her show telling the unions that they had won, and proceeded straight into a victory party for her entire opening bit. (yes, occasionally i watch rachel maddow)

She is funny. I've seen her a few times, and have lovingly dubbed her "Rachael Madcow". :mrgreen:
 
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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems

I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.

I don't see it that way.

I think that people who can think about what all of the causes of our current economic problems recognize that Unions are at the center of of some of the problems along with Liberals who go along to get Union support and Conservative who fear the backlash if they oppose the Unions.

As I have said over and over Conservatives need to grow a back bone and stand up for what is right and forget what is easy.

We have to stick to the truth and facts and to hell with going along to get along.
 
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No, he doesn't care.

He feels that us "Rich" folks don't pay enough.



Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.
 
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Which is BS. The Teachers Union had already agreed to ALL of the monetary concessions. What this is really about is the Koch Brothers' influence over the Governor, who is breaking the unions, while lying that it is all about being fiscally responsible.

Didn't take you long to go from indy to libby. LMAO, Butch Maddow would be proud.
 
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