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yes, apdst has admitted to getting a whole lot more government money back in excess of what he paid in last year

and you have been funded by tax dollars your entire life
and apdst was a net taxpayer most of his life

he also doesn't support the government getting bigger and bigger--you do

he doesn't support a tax system that promotes more government

you do
 
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Continual Costco Confusion. Poor Turtle is not able to distinguish shopping with his cart at a retail store and only paying for what he wants with the relationship of a citizen and their government.

i am much smarter than you which is obvious both by the general stupidity of your posts and your profession which attracts the bottom of the barrel. You continually lie about me because you cannot handle the fact I don't agree with your nonsense
 
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It doesn't specify, but I did notice in my rereading I got the amount wrong. It is $93,000, not $91,000.

"The tax bill gave a $93,000 tax cut, on average, to those earning more than $1 million a year. Most Americans, however, get less than $100."

You may have posted it already and I didn't see it but, what's the source you are using here?


j-mac
 
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Look Cat, if you think that the tax rates are too low, then you can send more money in. They'll take it, I promise.

I don't think tax rates are too low for those that make less than $1 million dollars. I think they are too low on those making more than $1 million dollars who we have giving a tax break of $93,000 each year since 2003, since it falls on all of us making less than $1 million dollars to pick up their share.

If you want to continue to donate to millionaires, then you can send in more money. They'll take, just like they've been taking it each year since 2003.
 
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I don't think tax rates are too low for those that make less than $1 million dollars. I think they are too low on those making more than $1 million dollars who we have giving a tax break of $93,000 each year since 2003, since it falls on all of us making less than $1 million dollars to pick up their share.

If you want to continue to donate to millionaires, then you can send in more money. They'll take, just like they've been taking it each year since 2003.

what government benefits do those millionaires get that you do not? how much did you pay in FIT last year?
 
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You may have posted it already and I didn't see it but, what's the source you are using here?


j-mac


The Congressional Record.
 
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I don't think tax rates are too low for those that make less than $1 million dollars. I think they are too low on those making more than $1 million dollars who we have giving a tax break of $93,000 each year since 2003, since it falls on all of us making less than $1 million dollars to pick up their share.

If you want to continue to donate to millionaires, then you can send in more money. They'll take, just like they've been taking it each year since 2003.

How are the middle class picking up the millionaire's share of the taxes, when they already pay more than they do, both %wise and in absolute dollars?

I paid over 200k in FIC last year. How am I "taking" from the government?
 
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I don't think tax rates are too low for those that make less than $1 million dollars. I think they are too low on those making more than $1 million dollars who we have giving a tax break of $93,000 each year since 2003, since it falls on all of us making less than $1 million dollars to pick up their share.

If you want to continue to donate to millionaires, then you can send in more money. They'll take, just like they've been taking it each year since 2003.

So you disagree with Obama then that the rich is comprised of those making over $250K per year?


j-mac
 
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yes, apdst has admitted to getting a whole lot more government money back in excess of what he paid in last year

I did? Really? Wanna provide us with a link, or just admit that you're lying your ass off? The choice is your's.
 
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I don't think tax rates are too low for those that make less than $1 million dollars. I think they are too low on those making more than $1 million dollars who we have giving a tax break of $93,000 each year since 2003, since it falls on all of us making less than $1 million dollars to pick up their share.

If you want to continue to donate to millionaires, then you can send in more money. They'll take, just like they've been taking it each year since 2003.

So you conclude that NOT TAKING by threat of fine or imprisonment MORE MONEY from successful people in order to give to those who were not successful...is a GIFT and YOU and I are giving these successful people SOMETHING? Really? Seems kind'a MARXIST to me..just say'n how is not strong arming someone and taking their wealth away from them....A GIFT from YOU? Did you EARN any of that Wealth to have a say as to how best to use it? And how do you justify this WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION and make it compliant with Article One Section Eight and its mandate of uniformity in relation to all LEVIES? Where do you get the authority to TAX some people a higher percentage of their wealth based upon their SOCIAL STATUS?
 
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I did? Really? Wanna provide us with a link, or just admit that you're lying your ass off? The choice is your's.

He was confusing you with ptif.
 
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How are the middle class picking up the millionaire's share of the taxes, when they already pay more than they do, both %wise and in absolute dollars?

I paid over 200k in FIC last year. How am I "taking" from the government?

Do the middle class not share in the debt created by the unfunded tax cuts to those making over $1 million a year?
 
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So you disagree with Obama then that the rich is comprised of those making over $250K per year?


j-mac



Yes, I do!
 
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I did? Really? Wanna provide us with a link, or just admit that you're lying your ass off? The choice is your's.

I will take Lying his ass off for 2000 Alex
 
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So you conclude that NOT TAKING by threat of fine or imprisonment MORE MONEY from successful people in order to give to those who were not successful...is a GIFT and YOU and I are giving these successful people SOMETHING? Really? Seems kind'a MARXIST to me..just say'n how is not strong arming someone and taking their wealth away from them....A GIFT from YOU? Did you EARN any of that Wealth to have a say as to how best to use it? And how do you justify this WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION and make it compliant with Article One Section Eight and its mandate of uniformity in relation to all LEVIES? Where do you get the authority to TAX some people a higher percentage of their wealth based upon their SOCIAL STATUS?

You seem to be under the impression that the $93,000 tax break on average given to those who make more than $1 million is some kind of a right, rather than a temporary tax break provided that it is.
 
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Do the middle class not share in the debt created by the unfunded tax cuts to those making over $1 million a year?

its the middle class and lower class that vote for more and more spending because they don't pay their share of government spending
 
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You seem to be under the impression that the $93,000 tax break on average given to those who make more than $1 million is some kind of a right, rather than a temporary tax break provided that it is.


the right is to keep what you earn-not to be given back what is yours

those who pay more taxes ought to be given more government privileges or rights
 
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Do the middle class not share in the debt created by the unfunded tax cuts to those making over $1 million a year?

I paid more in taxes percentage wise than the millionairs that boast of paying 17%....If they think that they should be paying more, why don't they? I mean taxes are supposed to be voluntary right?


j-mac
 
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You seem to be under the impression that the $93,000 tax break on average given to those who make more than $1 million is some kind of a right, rather than a temporary tax break provided that it is.

I want a link to this, you can't keep just throwing it out there like fact with no link.


j-mac
 
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I don't. I feel the lower class should start shouldering some of the burden instead of sponging off everyone else.

30 million plus Americans out of work, millions of American jobs being sent over seas. American companies moving overseas producing a product with labor costs far below what any American worker would need just to survive. Where would you suggest that all of these unemployed Americans find jobs?
 
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This proves that unions are made up of nothing but thugs. M&I executives gave the legal maximum of approximately $182,000 to Gov. Walker's campaign and are now to be driven into FDIC receivorship by withdrawal of union pension funds. If that happens, will cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars. They care about no one except themselves.

Unions and their membership will stop at nothing to get exactly what they want. Is there any stopping them? I don't know. But I now know that neither union officials nor their membership can be trusted to do anything that doesn't benefit themselves. They are selfish disloyal Americans who will do anything to get what they want -- including bleeding taxpayers dry.

Thugs? They are only exercising their rightful control over their own money. After all, that is what the free market is all about. If you don't like something, you have every right to stop supporting it with YOUR OWN MONEY. Or would you have the government regulate them? If so, then that is quite a LIBERAL position to take. :mrgreen:
 
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Do the middle class not share in the debt created by the unfunded tax cuts to those making over $1 million a year?

Just how do you CREATE DEBT by NOT TAXING? There is no Fluid movement of the economy one way or another when nothing is collected or SPENT. Therein lies the RUB. DEBT is created by SPENDING MORE THAN YOU TAKE IN. Basic Economics 101. Something is basically wrong with any government that collects 300 Billion per month yet still has a 14 Trillion dollar Federal Deficit. The problem is not TAXES but SPENDING. Right now, as we speak....every swinging DICK in these United States, Poor and Wealthy alike could be taxed at a 100% rate...and guess what? The budget would still not be compliant to a ZERO Balance.
 
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Thugs? They are only exercising their rightful control over their own money. After all, that is what the free market is all about. If you don't like something, you have every right to stop supporting it with YOUR OWN MONEY. Or would you have the government regulate them? If so, then that is quite a LIBERAL position to take. :mrgreen:


It's MY money before it is theirs, and I AM BROKE!


j-mac
 
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Do the middle class not share in the debt created by the unfunded tax cuts to those making over $1 million a year?

You made it sound as if I was taking money from the government. Unless my accountant somehow stole 200k from me last year, I don't believe I'm exactly getting government handouts.
 
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Laugh away, the millionaires really appreciate your good humor about their annual windfall at your expense.

"The tax bill gave a $91,000 tax cut, on average, to those earning more than $1 million a year. Most Americans, however, get less than $100."

Congressional Record
They most appreciate my ability to do simple arithmetic, and the numbers show your claim to be ludicrous.

As icing for the cake, you provide as proof... a Senate debate transcript. May as well be a youtube video of something Tom Harkin said on Crossfire eight years ago.
 
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