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Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights withou

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Finally a governor that stands up for the Rights of Taxpayers and Property Owners.......God Bless America!
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Well, two of them at least...

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He's the "real" conservative 'round here, pardner.

People like you are why he changed his political lean.
 
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People like you are why he changed his political lean.

he changed his lean to draw attention to himself, because that is his primary role on this forum.
 
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he changed his lean to draw attention to himself, because that is his primary role on this forum.

Actually, it's not. Changing my political lean was an honest move on my part. I suggest you read my thread in the partisan politics forum, before you start calling me names.
 
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Reading is fundamental, guy. My thread about changing my political lean from Conservative to Independent has been posted for quite some time, and my lean is also public. Just go to where my avatar is, and look below it. Do you need easier directions? :mrgreen:

In changing my political lean to Independent, I can still talk about the good old days of Goldwater, Buckley, and other great thinkers, without being saddled with the likes of Beck, Palin, and YOU. LOL. :mrgreen:

You are backing Unions over the People of the State of Wisconsin. :roll:
 
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Actually, it's not. Changing my political lean was an honest move on my part. I suggest you read my thread in the partisan politics forum, before you start calling me names.

I also changed my lean.

the difference is I didn't feel complelled to make a vanity post about it.
 
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Actually, it's not. Changing my political lean was an honest move on my part. I suggest you read my thread in the partisan politics forum, before you start calling me names.

You were forced too because I and others like me have been pointing out how... unconservative many of your views are. I applaud your move to a more honest labeling of where and who you are.
 
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You are backing Unions over the People of the State of Wisconsin. :roll:

Which, in this case, they're on in the same.
 
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Hey Dan, still waiting on a reply to post #19....
 
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You are backing Unions over the People of the State of Wisconsin. :roll:

The People of the State of Wisconsin elected Walker as Governor to balance the budget, not to wage an ideological war against them.
 
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Breaking the law and setting the stage for a massive recall election...??

Breaking the Law? You mean like going awol while the UNIONS pay for your out of state luxury accommodations for the past 3 weeks? That's not unethical in the least, but forcing an up or down vote is an unheard act of contempt. Just a little hypocritical..no? Again...funny as hell, most enjoyable....now that the unions have been hit across the head with a 2x4 in getting their attention perhaps THE PEOPLES representatives will take their heads out of the union leaderships asses long enough to do the job they were elected to do...represent the Peoples Best Interests instead of siding with special interest groups.
 
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And most of those ineffective policies are in place because the union refuses to allow any innovation or experimentation, unless it directly benefits the union itself.

Sure, the unions love to tout any reforms that will increase the membership of the union, like small class sizes. It's the OTHER 90% of reforms that they block.

I'm sure that most teachers go into it to help children. That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that teachers' unions are cancers on society that protect bad teachers, inhibit education reforms, and overcharge taxpayers. Society would be far better off without them.

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The People of the State of Wisconsin elected Walker as Governor to balance the budget, not to wage an ideological war against them.

Are you trying to say that every single person in WI is in a union?
 
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The People of the State of Wisconsin elected Walker as Governor to balance the budget, not to wage an ideological war against them.

them?

what, the 3% of the population that belongs to a public union.

maybe you come visit the state before pretending to know what the residents think?
 
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You are backing Unions over the People of the State of Wisconsin. :roll:

Actually there are people in the unions in Wisconsin. Taxpayers too.
 
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I also changed my lean.

the difference is I didn't feel complelled to make a vanity post about it.

Don't be so shy. When a libertarian comes out of the closet, its always worth a listen.
 
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Which, in this case, they're on in the same.

No, they aren't. Read FDR's take on Public Sector Unions.
 
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False. The Police and Fire Departments formally backed Scott Walker for governor and then turned on him when he went after collective bargaining. The GOP is overreaching.

One thing I always thought conservatives could understand was that people don't like it when you take away their rights - aren't they always whining about gun rights and the like - they're done.

314 Police and Fire Unions in Wisconsin........

.......out of the 314.....4 of them endorsed Walker.

Please cease and desist from your liberal talking points......
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Are you trying to say that every single person in WI is in a union?

When you're Pro-Union, everyone is Union.

Don'tcha Know?
 
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You were forced too because I and others like me have been pointing out how... unconservative many of your views are. I applaud your move to a more honest labeling of where and who you are.

I wasn't forced to do a damn thing. I made my own choice, based on information I had available. It's as simple as that. As much as you would like to believe that you are God here, you aren't. You had diddly squat to do with my change. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
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This just more proof that this fight was never about the budget.

correct, it was also a fight over future budgets.
 
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I also changed my lean.

the difference is I didn't feel complelled to make a vanity post about it.

It wasn't about vanity whatsoever, but explaining the reasons for the change, which are deep rooted. Now, instead of the barrage of personal attacks you and your friends are making against me, which DOES make me feel good, in a vain sort of way, how about talking about the topic, which isn't about me, but about what is happening in Wisconsin?
 
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It is also no coincidence that the laws that caused the lending problem were enacted on Clintons watch. You of course don't have to believe me. Do some homework and you can see for yourself.

Hindesight is always 20/20 isn't it?

Same ole' talking points. You do of course realize that I am not a consevative right? You can find that out by looking through my 3000+ posts. As such your talking points mean nothing to me.

And yes there was a need. Study up on unions and see how they have continueally raised pay grades and demand more and more to the point where buisnesses and manufacturing companies move out of the country because of the demands that Unions make. Granted Unions are only part of the reason. But it is still there. And another view for you to look at. Why would there even be a need to cut pay and union benefits if it wasn't hurting US and State debts? If the US was "capable of meeting the demands"? Oh wait...you'll respond with the canned reply of "because they want to hurt the workers and not big buisnesses". Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Every single big buisness out there needs workers. Without them they cannot exist. Just as the workers cannot work without big buisness. It is a symbiotic relationship.

1. Democrats and Republicans both feed greedy ****s (I would never deny this), I have a hard time getting over the fact that the greediest of them all love the Republican Party and not to mention that least greedy of them all are Democrats who encourage the government to increase their taxes.
2. Being an independent doesn't meant that you don't subscribe to any conservative values or make any conservative arguments. Independent doesn't mean neutral.
3. I've studied plenty. I'm glad you make businesses the poor little guys who were forced to leave the country because the unions had to many demands. I've heard this argument made many a time...by conservatives. Businesses (not all, but many) are greedy - that's why they move their business to places where they can underpay their workers and let them work in horrible conditions - see a famous case - Nike.
4. Like I said, the U.S. is capable of meeting the demands of the unions because they ****ing agreed to make monetary concessions so long as they could keep collective bargaining...Walker doesn't care.
5. It is interesting how they are so adamant about attacking working class salaries and not adamant about attacking wealthy people who can afford to give a little extra in taxes. Why are working class people supposed to sacrifice but not wealthy people who still get multi-million dollar bonuses and lower taxes.
 
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