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Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

Fine Jetboogieman! You stay with your belief as a "Soldier of Hope" and I'll stay with mine. That "Hope" ain't workin' out too good is it! Your comments assume that people who want to change this very system of government are so stupid that they'll follow a plan that has historically resulted in eventual failure. That they'll announce their intentions and say...Get ready...Here we come. Oh sure...violent overthrow of the government that alienates the population. Here, though you choose to ignore that there is a seduction of the people by those seeking control. I've noted the divide and conquer strategy of class envy and pitting one group against the other. Do you think it's mere coincidence that American non-union workers now despise American union workers? You don't care, you're not an American. I cant do anything about that. You're so brazenly confident that all is just honky-dorey.

Take a personal challenge and start with the Obama's parents and his dysfunctional paental upbringing and both parents political lineage, grandparents the same, all close associates in his formative yeas the same, his Chicago friends/associates the same. The same being all radicals of one stripe or another that are hostile to our form of government in America and OUR way of life. This bum Obama never associated with or knew any normal and contented, happy Americans. You read my other posts wherein I added enough link references to make my valid points and still you're in denial. You likely also see nothing unusual with this administration being in bed with the biggest unions and simultaneously speading about stimulus $$$s to all the corrupt Wall Street criminal element. The "useful fools". Just great.
 
zimmer said:
How do you know people listen to Beck? Really. How do you know?

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Well I can tell because there are various talking points, concepts, beliefs, positions, etc., that all come straight out of the right wing propaganda firehose.

That right wing bias you just can't find anywhere else.

Which would be fine if their consumers were aware of the tools being used on them. Alas, such is not the case.

But that's "The Topic That Shall Not Be Discussed!", apparently.

Never mind...
 
What if...? said:
Well I can tell because there are various talking points, concepts, beliefs, positions, etc., that all come straight out of the right wing propaganda firehose.

That right wing bias you just can't find anywhere else.

Which would be fine if their consumers were aware of the tools being used on them. Alas, such is not the case.

But that's "The Topic That Shall Not Be Discussed!", apparently.

Never mind...
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Do you believe that people are smart enough to watch current events and put 2 and 2 together, or must everyone be "told" what to think? Or better yet are you one who believes that it is only the right whom is led by pundits? Maybe some serious projection going on here.


j-mac
 
doctorhugo said:
Fine Jetboogieman! You stay with your belief as a "Soldier of Hope" and I'll stay with mine. That "Hope" ain't workin' out too good is it! Your comments assume that people who want to change this very system of government are so stupid that they'll follow a plan that has historically resulted in eventual failure. That they'll announce their intentions and say...Get ready...Here we come. Oh sure...violent overthrow of the government that alienates the population. Here, though you choose to ignore that there is a seduction of the people by those seeking control. I've noted the divide and conquer strategy of class envy and pitting one group against the other. Do you think it's mere coincidence that American non-union workers now despise American union workers? You don't care, you're not an American. I cant do anything about that. You're so brazenly confident that all is just honky-dorey.
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Recent polls show you are wrong.


Take a personal challenge and start with the Obama's parents and his dysfunctional paental upbringing and both parents political lineage, grandparents the same, all close associates in his formative yeas the same, his Chicago friends/associates the same. The same being all radicals of one stripe or another that are hostile to our form of government in America and OUR way of life. This bum Obama never associated with or knew any normal and contented, happy Americans. You read my other posts wherein I added enough link references to make my valid points and still you're in denial. You likely also see nothing unusual with this administration being in bed with the biggest unions and simultaneously speading about stimulus $$$s to all the corrupt Wall Street criminal element. The "useful fools". Just great.
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Dude, you don't know what you are talking about -the stimulus funds didn't go to Wall Street.
 
j-mac said:
Do you believe that people are smart enough to watch current events and put 2 and 2 together, or must everyone be "told" what to think? Or better yet are you one who believes that it is only the right whom is led by pundits? Maybe some serious projection going on here.


j-mac
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Nope. I'm talking about "persuasion", propaganda. The output of the PR industry.

This is science, not punditry. There are feelings about things, opinions, beliefs, in ALL of our heads that were placed there by professionals, paid for by those who benefit from these ideas being there.

Some people can tell truth from propaganda, at least most of the time. Some of these tricks are so powerful NO ONE is immune. But most people are totally unaware these tools exist, much less that every political message anyone hears is devised by people conversant in this science.

I'm not challenging anyone's right to advocate and vote their own self interest. If you work in the oil industry, for instance, I won't challenge you supporting the industry your livelihood depends on. I might encourage you to look at your industry in a different light, but I won't "judge" you.

I feel that "persuasion", in all it's forms, is far more dangerous to our democracy than ANYTHING else facing us. Because the PR industry and its output obscures and confuses EVERYTHING in our national discourse.

Hell, the info on the site in my signature would make it easy to point out LIBERAL propaganda. I encourage you to do so. But more importantly, educate yourself about this.

I promise you will be better off if you do.
 
What if...? said:
Nope. I'm talking about "persuasion", propaganda. The output of the PR industry.

This is science, not punditry. There are feelings about things, opinions, beliefs, in ALL of our heads that were placed there by professionals, paid for by those who benefit from these ideas being there.

Some people can tell truth from propaganda, at least most of the time. Some of these tricks are so powerful NO ONE is immune. But most people are totally unaware these tools exist, much less that every political message anyone hears is devised by people conversant in this science.

I'm not challenging anyone's right to advocate and vote their own self interest. If you work in the oil industry, for instance, I won't challenge you supporting the industry your livelihood depends on. I might encourage you to look at your industry in a different light, but I won't "judge" you.

I feel that "persuasion", in all it's forms, is far more dangerous to our democracy than ANYTHING else facing us. Because the PR industry and its output obscures and confuses EVERYTHING in our national discourse.

Hell, the info on the site in my signature would make it easy to point out LIBERAL propaganda. I encourage you to do so. But more importantly, educate yourself about this.

I promise you will be better off if you do.
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Thanks for the link. I'm going to explore that site.
 
All I have to say about this:
doctorhugo said:
What's your problem? Do you always go to topic threads and change the subject whenever you want?
What if...? you open your own challenge thread.
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In light of all this:
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Y'know mister jetboogieman you appear to have that flawed perspective common to liberals who think that despite the record of history, they know better...that they know everything better. To even suggest that there has been and is no socialist/communist threat to this country since the 50s is to be in denial of reality and the very fact that there is a resident evil in man. That last comment shouldn't be minimized, because every generation has had it's tyrants whose names are written in the real history books. And the most insidious threat is the one from within, as it's often ignored

Do you think that the CPUSA is a social club?
Maybe you should give Chapter 19 a read, because you may be a victim of redacted/revisionist progressive education that got well cranked-up in the 60s. Much authoritative and respected opinion there, backed up by factual reality.
Or that this bunch, right out of Obama's Chicago past, are just another political party?
Or that Van Jones who became another casualty under Obama's political bus was a peace activist?
Or that this bum is no threat to anybody or anything?
And then there's the Nudge strategist Cass Sunstein who has this distorted view of the Second Amendment and accurately predicted his view would be overturned later, which happened in the DC Circuit Court of Appeals on 3/9/2007. That didn't stop him from participating in this puffball questioning laffer with notorious RINO Susan Collins ochestrated so he could loudly exclaim that he is a supporter of the Second Amendment, just NOT of any original intent interpretation that gives people the right to use arms to defend themselves. No un-American attitudinal threat there, huh. You miss all the subtleties of those who would usurp our system.
Or what about the most radical czar of all?

I looked in your public "profile" to see if you listed your age so I could get a better sense of you, but I see you're rather shy about personal information. You have an understandable admiration for the imaginative appeal of the old Star Trek TV series and what and how it related to the then future and inter-galactic travel, etcetera. What about the past though? Are you in complete denial of that? I'm honestly trying to get a sense of where you are coming from.

Why don't you make your case for that position I and others here consider outrageous. You took the position sugesting that our concerns were a joke, so now it's your responsibility to defend it...WITH FACTS!
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doctorhugo said:
Grow up, nobody is personally attacking you, so stop crying out for the moderators to help you. It's YOUR POSITIONS that are being attacked.



You haven't made ANY case for them being non-threatening. I've posted about current administration people who are such sympathizers. I can post many more and at what point would you agree they pose a threat? When it's too late? It doesn't take a college graduate to understand how they work. Just read up on Ayers and Dohrn and others, they're classic. Violence and subversive rhetoric to separate the have nots from the haves in society and create class envy. And its working. That's the reason this nation was foolish to enough to elect a radical usurper whose only promise was a vacuous prattle of Hope and Change. Naivete will yet be the death of this sovereign constitutional republic. And don't waste your time on charges of paranoia either. The lesson of all the assaults on our freedoms for control and influence of an ever-growing national government by constitutionasl violations is here and now in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011.



You've yet to snap out of your Che malaise. Obama is a control freakazoid. His very appointments and actions since he's been President can demonstrate that. He initiated his getting control of the means of production and commerce with the stimulus, ramping-up the bad example of the less than intelligent Bush. His administation and close associates read like a Goldman-Sachs alumni meeting. He broke the law by trampling all over debtor's rights via bankruptcy law in his attempt to gain a foothold of control with the unions for the control of the auto industry. He grabbed control of the health industry with ObamaCare, the first law ever passed that we had to pass to learn what it contained. He got stopped on Cap and Trade and has already started using regulations/directives with the full force of law via his EPA, Commerce Dept and other entities to slowly exert control. He's openly recognized the current financial disaster(would you like me to "go to the videotape"?) and reacted by pushing for more spending and refusing to take any substantive commitment to reduce spending as we head for disaster. Call him what you will. He's a mix of all of those corrupt and proven failed Russian political theologies. All verifiable FACTS.



I just made my case. You're still screaming and ranting! The "taking over" can only occur if more people start believing what you believe.



[sarcasm]Okay everyone. Relax. Disarm. Unlock your doors. Invite a commie or marxist or leninist or nazi or terrorist over for a garden party. No sweat![/sarcasm]


Says you. I say it's the Islamofundamentalist nutjob terrorists and their sympathizers here in the good old USofA. "Eternal Vigilance is the Responsibility of Freedom."
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doctorhugo said:
You keep saying that like when you suggested a "personal attack". The only serious issue I have is that when someone, anyone...posts rants like you do I call them on it. You've still failed to step up to the mark and only complain. In fact, you've posted that you are not an American. Does that mean you're not an American citizen, born here OR naturalized? I don't get why you think that's relevant, unless you honestly believe that NOT BEING an American gives you some kind of special status to take potshots whenever you want to and not justify anything you say with comments based in demonstrable fact. The only thing on your side is that this country hasn't YET been overthrown by radicals. As I suggested earlier, if most people had your dismissive attitude of perceived and real threats it would have already happened.
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doctorhugo said:
Fine Jetboogieman! You stay with your belief as a "Soldier of Hope" and I'll stay with mine. That "Hope" ain't workin' out too good is it! Your comments assume that people who want to change this very system of government are so stupid that they'll follow a plan that has historically resulted in eventual failure. That they'll announce their intentions and say...Get ready...Here we come. Oh sure...violent overthrow of the government that alienates the population. Here, though you choose to ignore that there is a seduction of the people by those seeking control. I've noted the divide and conquer strategy of class envy and pitting one group against the other. Do you think it's mere coincidence that American non-union workers now despise American union workers? You don't care, you're not an American. I cant do anything about that. You're so brazenly confident that all is just honky-dorey.

Take a personal challenge and start with the Obama's parents and his dysfunctional paental upbringing and both parents political lineage, grandparents the same, all close associates in his formative yeas the same, his Chicago friends/associates the same. The same being all radicals of one stripe or another that are hostile to our form of government in America and OUR way of life. This bum Obama never associated with or knew any normal and contented, happy Americans. You read my other posts wherein I added enough link references to make my valid points and still you're in denial. You likely also see nothing unusual with this administration being in bed with the biggest unions and simultaneously speading about stimulus $$$s to all the corrupt Wall Street criminal element. The "useful fools". Just great.
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Is: Healer, Heal Thyself! :lol:
 
pbrauer said:
Is this one liberal enough for you J?

Wisconsin Voters Oppose Weakening Collective Bargaining Rights in General But Strongly Support Specific Changes - Rasmussen Reports™
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from your link

What You Can Learn About Wisconsin Dispute from Differences in Poll Questions


In recent national polling about the situation in Wisconsin, Rasmussen Reports and Quinnipiac found a slight plurality in favor of Governor Scott Walker and his efforts, the Pew Center found a plurality opposed, and Gallup and the New York Times reported strong opposition...

Quinnipiac found a 45% to 42% national plurality in favor of the governor by asking, “In order to reduce state budget deficits, would you support or oppose limiting collective bargaining for public employees?” On the other hand, Pew found a 42% to 31% national plurality opposed to the governor by asking, “From what you’ve read and heard about the dispute between Wisconsin’s governor and public employee unions over collective bargaining rights, do you side more with the governor or the public employee unions?”

Quinnipiac put the collective bargaining rights dispute in context as a potential way to reduce the state budget deficit. Pew described the entire issue as a collective bargaining dispute and never mentioned the state budget deficit. When the deficit is mentioned, the governor does much better; when it’s all about limiting collective bargaining rights, the unions do better.

This distinction was mirrored in a Rasmussen Reports statewide survey that found support for statewide budget cuts but not for weakening collective bargaining rights. A national Rasmussen Reports survey didn’t mention what the dispute was about and asked, “In the dispute between the governor and the union workers, do you agree more with the governor or the union for teachers and other state employees?” In that case, Walker most recently was favored 47% to 42%.

Nationally, the New York Times did not ask who people supported but found 60% opposition to “taking away some of the collective bargaining rights of the unions.” Gallup asked a similar question and found 61% opposed.

But both the New York Times and Quinnipiac found that nationally a plurality thought the debate was more about budget issues than about weakening unions. That’s one reason polls asking only about collective bargaining rights show better results for the unions. If the focus is on budget cutting, as it is for a plurality of adults nationwide, the results look better for the governor...
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Moral: Polls which want so show union support should not mention the state budget or deficits.
 
These Leftys just will never understand the change that IS occuring in the United States......Barak was right...change is coming....just not in the way he and his accolytes thought.

We don't want what he is peddling, and 2010 was simply a foretatse of what will happen in 2012.
 
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Moral: Polls which want so show union support should not mention the state budget or deficits.
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This is one subject that can have a very wide range of poll results based on how the question is worded. Plus the fact that so many people are unclear on what collective bargaining actually is, and don't have a clear understanding of what the law in WI actually does.

That's the reason I have totally ignored all the polls on this subject.
 
Plato said:
If you continue to believe the Earth is flat then you're not going to be convinced.

Look at it this way. Just as posters on here who defend Beck will never ever be taken seriously in a debate again, brand managers want to avoid such a fate for their brands.

Liberals won't discuss it with you. Why would they? You've crossed the line from right wing radicalism to fundamentalist crankiness. It would simply be a waste of time. I mean of course the Earth is flat otherwise all the water would just fall off wouldn't it?

Beck is way beyond neocons, Reaganites, earnest Mormons or other conservatives. He is an end of days Christian Talibani. There simply is nothing to discuss. He and his cohorts are enemies of democracy. Those who are intoxicated by his childish political incorrectness cross that line with him. He is a de facto ally of islamofascism, a provocateur and hatemonger who pushes the agenda of global jihad every time he opens his mouth. Osama would love it if the whole US media was dominated by such morons and their friends. He's the enemy within.

Which brand would associate with such a nutter?
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So what do you think of the Rev Wright? Is he beyond the leftwing universe? Is there anything to discuss? Is your view balanced?
 
doctorhugo said:
Do you think it's mere coincidence that American non-union workers now despise American union workers?
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pbrauer said:
Is this one liberal enough for you J?

Wisconsin Voters Oppose Weakening Collective Bargaining Rights in General But Strongly Support Specific Changes - Rasmussen Reports™
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First, that poll is on state, not national.

Second, perhaps you could point to the part of this poll that shows 'American non-union workers do not despise American union workers', since that is what you claimed the polls all show.

I guess finding a poll to actually back up the specific thing you claim is too much effort, huh.
 
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First, that poll is on state, not national.
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Yes, it's state, but it sure doesn't look well for many of the GOP state senators where recall efforts going on now. And there will be a recall effort launched to unseat Gov. Walker in January. Also, collective barganing is not quite the partisan issue you think it is; there are Republican/conservatives who are members of unions and didn't know this was on Walkers list. Stay tuned.

Second, perhaps you could point to the part of this poll that shows 'American non-union workers do not despise American union workers', since that is what you claimed the polls all show.

I guess finding a poll to actually back up the specific thing you claim is too much effort, huh.
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Show me where non-worked despise union workers. That claim by doctorhugo, is the opinion that needs to be backed up.
 
This thread isn't about Glenn Beck anymore, is it?

:eek:t
 
Fiddytree said:
PBS had an entire show dedicated toward the Neoconservative viewpoint for many many years. In the mainstream media, that is quite the rarity.
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We don't mind Republicans, but Beck and Hannity aren't your Daddys GOP, their fascists.
 
What if...? said:
Nope. I'm talking about "persuasion", propaganda. The output of the PR industry.

This is science, not punditry. There are feelings about things, opinions, beliefs, in ALL of our heads that were placed there by professionals, paid for by those who benefit from these ideas being there.

Some people can tell truth from propaganda, at least most of the time. Some of these tricks are so powerful NO ONE is immune. But most people are totally unaware these tools exist, much less that every political message anyone hears is devised by people conversant in this science.

I'm not challenging anyone's right to advocate and vote their own self interest. If you work in the oil industry, for instance, I won't challenge you supporting the industry your livelihood depends on. I might encourage you to look at your industry in a different light, but I won't "judge" you.

I feel that "persuasion", in all it's forms, is far more dangerous to our democracy than ANYTHING else facing us. Because the PR industry and its output obscures and confuses EVERYTHING in our national discourse.

Hell, the info on the site in my signature would make it easy to point out LIBERAL propaganda. I encourage you to do so. But more importantly, educate yourself about this.

I promise you will be better off if you do.
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I would think that with liberal outlets outnumbering conservative ones at least in print, and broadcast, by a factor of 10-1 that the spin would decidedly be liberal.

j-mac
 
Kane said:
We don't mind Republicans, but Beck and Hannity aren't your Daddys GOP, their fascists.
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Wattenberg is a Democrat.....
 
pbrauer said:
Recent polls show you are wrong.
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Polls are the opinions of 'selected' groups of people who are selected by the polling company. For that very reason this back and forth debate about what polls show is misleading and only serves a simple-minded agenda of ditarction from the real truths. Their the carefully crafted "finger-in-the-wind" barometers engineered for politicians who are gutless and will never be statesmen. Poll outcomes can be steered simply by a careful question phrasing that imparts subliminal suggestion to the question. Then, submitted to a few hundred selected opinion givers an outcome is a foregone conclusion. In short, polls as truth are useless! Most polls are taken by politically prejudiced entities today, because that's the real state of things in this country, diametrically prejudiced to a fault. Opinions you see in online forums are, after you cull out the simple trolling agitators, representative of those views in this country. People who don't get active as we do have MUCH LESS understanding of what is actually happening around them politically and sadly care little..., in my opinion. They are to a great degree, which I won't quantify by % because I have no idea, totally uninterested and uninformed being preoccupied with their little personal day-to-day existences and whatever fuels their mental and psychological engines. Most parrot opinons common to their social groups and if challenged haven't a clue how to respond, because they have no in-depth interest or knowledge. These are the true "sheeple" who can be easily led and influenced. Many are not so and simply not interested in political confrontations. I speak from personal experience as I don't just engage politically online. To this point I've taken care to NOT give a political, one-sided opinion. It holds for BOTH sides as THE TRUTH.

I'll give you an example now of the left in action. I subscribe to what I call "the propaganda of the enemy camp" meaning the left or, for me, the insurrectionist left. Right there I define myself in this case, wherein I observe one subliminal suggestive that I'll point out after this quoted post. It's a newsletter from democrats.com, an information arm of the progressive left, headed by one Bob Fertik, whose beliefs can easily be researched by anyone.
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Dear ,

Last weekend, tens of thousands of us rallied in New York City and around the nation. We demonstrated our solidarity with workers in Wisconsin and around the nation who are under attack by Tea Party Republicans like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Step by step, we're creating a powerful grassroots response to the Tea Party: a Job Party.

On Tuesday, we're joining with Moveon again to rally across the nation. Will you join us after work?
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Sign up to join your local rally here.

Scott Walker isn't backing down. When Wisconsin Democrats bravely refused to surrender, Republicans crammed their union-busting bill through, breaking laws in the process.

And in Michigan, Republicans passed an "Emergency Manager" law to let Gov. Rick Snyder appoint virtual dictators to rule struggling towns by breaking unions and selling local utilities.

These two actions are being called the "Ash Wednesday Massacre" - not of people, but democracy. And so we absolutely must respond on Tuesday after work:

Sign up to join your local rally here.


Our Job Party movement is just beginning. On Wednesday March 16, we'll join Progressive Democrats of America in lunch-hour "Brown Bag Vigils" at local Congressional offices to demand Jobs not Cuts, Healthcare not Warfare, and Corporations Out of Politics.

On Monday April 4, we'll join the AFL-CIO in "We Are One" rallies to mark the date in 1968 when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated while helping Memphis sanitation workers form a union.

And on Monday April 18, we'll mark "Tax Day" with Moveon by demanding an end to tax dodging by corporations and billionaires.

I've been a progressive organizer my whole life, and I've never seen so much unity, passion, and determination. Workers, students, parents, the unemployed, veterans, feminists, Democrats, and a true rainbow coalition are coming together to protect our basic economic rights.

And we're not just on defense - we're organizing recall elections and building support for a 21st Century WPA.

So let's hit the streets, make new friends, broaden our coalition, and increase our demands for change - because our economic and political survival is at stake.

Thanks for all you do!

Bob, Charles, Corinne, Diane, Harry, Jonathan, and Justin and the rest of the team

P.S. if you'd like to help us build the Job Party, please visit our new web site:
Job Party: because America needs 15 million jobs NOW
or "like" us on Facebook:
Job Party | Facebook
or follow us on Twitter:
Job Party (JobParty) on Twitter

p.p.s. Please share your thoughts in our new blog:
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You'll note the big banner proclaiming USA Job Party WPA 21st century and in the text the reference to "we'll join Progressive Democrats of America ". Carefully avoided is pointedly telling you what the WPA means. That should be the first subliminal clue of ulterior motivation. It is, I BELIEVE,, the Workers Party of America, a new entity to rally the PDA and socialists(DSA, Soialist Party, et al) and Marxists and Communists under one banner to give the appearance of being what the Tea Party actually was and is. A true grassroots advocacy with NO central leadership origins, but spread from a single idea. Fertik's group seek to CONSTANTLY bombard us with the suggestion that the Tea Party is a "Republican" entity. Any "fair-minded " observer knows that is a lie, but Fertik needs to do that to justify getting new people to affiliate with his crowd who are NOT a Tea Party 'natural grassroots endeavor' equivalent, but what I stated they are here. Poseurs of a similar origin who are man-made by Fertik, and intent on a calculated insurrection to change our system of governance and by extension America. They try to hide it though so we can't so easily identify that motivation. Those scattered amongst the Tea Party ranks hold up whatever signs they want by whomever happens to attend (without internal censure and guidance) they are very different. Have Repubs affiliated with it. Of course, just like demonRATic left affiliates with this 'man-made', staged attempt they see as useful to their beliefs and cause.

The Tea Party is an overview of those disparate groups, trying to organize to some semblance of common unity to give them common voice. It is the most honest grassroots endeavor ever in this country since the original Tea Party. Palin didn't start it. Bachmann didn't start it. Rush didn't start it. Hannity didn't start it. No single political entity did. Do they take advantage of it. You bet your ass they do and why not! No doubt this post comment will be followed by leftist barbs posting hate sign and hate videos alleged to have been taken at Tea Party gatherings and some may be and some may not be. Way far-out and race- based fringe groups inhabit BOTH left and right to get attention. Some may also be set-ups by the left to disparage the Tea Party, which have been documented in the past. Point being, that nobody walks about censuring or whispering in the ears of those participating at the assorted Tea Party gatherings telling them what to do and what not to do. It's Grandma and grandpa and Mom and Pop and sometimes the kids out celebrating what America is really all about. The left attempt is the opposite as this newsletter proves and they deeply strategize any of their efforts to FOLLOW A PLAN.
It's the same with Beck as the left has mounted the same vicious assault upon him as they did with Palin and the Tea Party. Hate is their name and spreading it far and wide is their game.

In short, take some time to inform yourself to BOTH views BEFORE posting about this comment of mine. This logo This one is that being espoused by Fertik. It's all dressed up as the 21st century version of FDR's WPA. A great and simple opposing analysis of this may be found here.

My guess is that similarity is a setup and if he can get the progressives and other disparate radicals attention and unified them it will magically morph into the Workers Party of America to seduce non-union American workers to the socialist bent of the current corruption of "private" and "public" unions secured in a what's in it for me attitude ONLY. Separate the working class as a class and set them up as a class against the wealthy and wealth producers as their natural enemies to bring down this system. It's what Obama is all about. It's why he won't enact REAL spending cuts. NOw even some mainstream dems see the insanity of his position and are breaking awy from him. America is Obama's Titanic and he knows just where he's navigating us to, but some of the crew senses that and is starting to mutiny.
 
I'll not stand with PROGRESSIVES on any level. They've ruined our Nation, our Families, our Faith and our Hearts. I hate what they stand for and where they seek to take us. Period. Point blank. The end.
 
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