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Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

Demon of Light said:
I think at the very least keeping it out of public availability is a good thing. How can one expect these people to become functioning citizens if they must automatically makes themselves pariahs wherever they go? What I think is people who consider keeping it out of the public eye a seriously bad thing really just want to be able to harass these people and drive them out of the area or at least lock them out of the community.
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Why keep it in the public eye? Even minor sex offenses? So that I know that there is some child molesting perverted idiot living down the street that I can keep my daughters away from, that's why. What seriously stupid reasoning. I looked at Megan's Law website and was astounding to find some of these perverts living around the local high school. Across the street, in fact. I recognized a couple of their faces from seeing them around town. I NEVER let my girls go unattended around where they lived again... To think that these predators can and should be left alone and trusted not to do harm is negligent. I pray to the almighty universe that you never have children, and if you do that they are taken from you. It is irresponsible of you to think as you do and your ideas put children, my children, at risk from predators. Out of all the stupid things that I have seen you type, this one finally convinced me that you are not only an idiot, but a human being that is undeserving of respect.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
What would be your content/logic based argument for child molesters being put to death?
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First off, I think that the system should be modified prior to initiating my death consequence. An 18 year old that has sex with a 17 year old partner should not be on the death track, nor should a 22 year old that has sex with a 17 year-old. Neither should a guy that flashed some kids and then ran away... I am talking about a guy that abducts or restrains and has sex with or has seriously inappropriate sexual contact with a 7 year-old, for instance. I am only talking about heinous actions. That being a starting point, I think that rape and molesters of the heinous type should receive death just as a murderer should. Is the system perfect? Nothing is. I still feel that this is the appropriate consequence and that this consequence shows that we uphold the highest values, but taking the harshest actions against those that commit the harshest actions...
 
The issue is not about a late teen/early 20 something having sex with an underage late teens girlfriend. This issue is about pervs who like sex with young girls and boys. The original post was about a gang rape of a young girl.

Check out the Megan's Law website sometime and see for yourself how many have committed "lewd and lascivious acts with a girl under 14." It's most of them.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
...I'm now on a crusade to educate. So much misinformation out there. People have no idea what is going on.
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You've always been on a crusade on behalf of sex offenders. You papered the PCF forum with this same kind of pap, and you're over here doing it all over again. We get it. You think sex offenders are being treated meanly. You take it personally. You crusade on their behalf.

Enough, man. You've been repeating yourself for days. Just... enough.
 
DiAnna said:
You've always been on a crusade on behalf of sex offenders. You papered the PCF forum with this same kind of pap, and you're over here doing it all over again. We get it. You think sex offenders are being treated meanly. You take it personally. You crusade on their behalf.

Enough, man. You've been repeating yourself for days. Just... enough.
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PCF has been shut down for 6 months, why are you bringing that forum up here?

It will never be enough as long as people like X factor spew forth their bull****.

Why is it enough? Can't dispute what I say so you want to shut me up? That's very left wing of you, independent. I don't take it personally. I didn't touch this kid, don't know anyone who did and abhore the idea of what they did. But that being said, I care about the truth, something many on the right don't seem to give a **** about. I post multiple links with the truth, and they don't even open them up, they just attack me.

It shows they're all emotion, no rational thinking. Nobody wants to be wrong, but it takes a bigger man to stand up and say "You know what, I bought all the hype from the media, but I see I was wrong." than it does to attack the messenger. We obviously don't have many big men around this forum.
 
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dontworrybehappy said:
Well said, DOL.
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That is never true...

People don't realize the original sex offender registry was a police-only list of the most heinous, abhorrent and violent sexual predators out there. Now, dozens of crimes will get you put on the list.
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Some should be modified, such as an 18 year-old having sex with his 17 year-old girlfriend, but most are just fine. Why shouldn't they be put on the list?

What I must ask X factor, is what good is it doing to register these people? Show me proof, links to reputable websites, that show studies done that say it actually protects anyone?
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What good? By looking at Megan's Law I can instantly tell that there are sexual predators, what they look like and what they have done. I looked at hundreds of them on the website and I don't think that I found one that was even close to just having sex with a minor. They all looked devious and they all had crimes like:

- 288(a) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS
- 288a(c)(1) ORAL COPULATION WITH A MINOR UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE AND MORE THAN A 10 YEAR AGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OFFENDER AND VICTIM
- 288a(c) ORAL COPULATION WITH A MINOR UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE OR BY FORCE OR FEAR
- 261.2 PRIOR CODE - RAPE BY FORCE
- 316 (Wi) PRIOR CODE - COMMITMENT AS A MENTALLY DISORDERED SEX OFFENDER
- 288 CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN/LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS

Those are the big ones... repeated hundreds of times. Just take a look.

California Megan's Law - California Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General

Where is your outcry for violent offenses such as assault?
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Some assaults should be listed like this as well... some thugs beat up an 80 year old and steal their stuff... yeah, put them on a website too.

Why, after someone has done their time and is a free man/woman, must they be publicly humiliated wherever they go and with whatever they do? Why do you have such hate for people of society who made a mistake, and worse yet, might be innocent?
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Hate? Don't be a dramatic weeny. Jeez. How pathetic. It is simple protection. I see where they live or see them on the street and I can keep my kids away from them. It is called RESPONSIBILITY! Why do you have such hatred against the innocent children that are harmed when these predators strike against the unaware and uninformed? What if these sites were taken down and even more were harmed? Where is your compassion for the innocent children? Why are you so spiteful in your unending hatred of the children!
 
dontworrybehappy said:
PCF has been shut down for 6 months, why are you bringing that forum up here?

It will never be enough as long as people like X factor spew forth their bull****.

Why is it enough? Can't dispute what I say so you want to shut me up? That's very left wing of you, independent. I don't take it personally. I didn't touch this kid, don't know anyone who did and abhore the idea of what they did. But that being said, I care about the truth, something many on the right don't seem to give a **** about. I post multiple links with the truth, and they don't even open them up, they just attack me.

It shows they're all emotion, no rational thinking. Nobody wants to be wrong, but it takes a bigger man to stand up and say "You know what, I bought all the hype from the media, but I see I was wrong." than it does to attack the messenger. We obviously don't have many big men around this forum.
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It is the sex offender that broke societies rules in a most foul manner. It is not the sex offender that deserves protection from us as a result, it is us from them. Or more importantly, our children from them.

Anybody that would prey on the weakest of us, the most innocent and trusting......deserves much worse treatment than what they now get in America.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Some should be modified, such as an 18 year-old having sex with his 17 year-old girlfriend, but most are just fine. Why shouldn't they be put on the list?
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This is kind of a crap argument he's putting forth anyways, Bod. Most states have a three year span under the age of consent. Meaning, though a 13 year old is under the age of consent, if she is sleeping with a 16 year old...the 16 year old is not a rapist. That also means that a 19 year old is not going to end up a lifelong predator for sleeping with someone under the age of 18...so long as she's not under the age of 16. 21 with a 17....that's different, but everyone knows that rule, including the 21 year old.

Regardless, the majority of sex offenders are not on the registry for this....they're on there for gang raping 11 year old girls....and other equivalently vile behavior.
 
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Were the perps Black?
 
mac said:
This is kind of a crap argument he's putting forth anyways, Bod. Most states have a three year span under the age of consent. Meaning, though a 13 year old is under the age of consent, if she is sleeping with a 16 year old...the 16 year old is not a rapist. That also means that a 19 year old is not going to end up a lifelong predator for sleeping with someone under the age of 18...so long as she's not under the age of 16. 21 with a 17....that's different, but everyone knows that rule, including the 21 year old.

Regardless, the majority of sex offenders are not on the registry for this....they're on there for gang raping 11 year old girls....and other equivalently vile behavior.
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Better put than what I said. Agreed. It is pretty obvious. Should a guy be on there for showing his weener? Yes. To me it is a gateway action that leads to then cumming and throwing or eventual rape. The actions of those listed on Megan's Law are all pretty horrific and I have not seen one semi-normal looking person that had some minor offense. That is why I question why those here arguing as they are, hate children and innocent people. Where does the bleeding heart, we are turning the criminal into a victim crap coming from?
 
mac said:
What difference does it make what color they were?
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The only people I know capable of perpetrating a crime like that are Black. Seriously........
 
mac said:
What difference does it make what color they were?
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If they are black, jesse jackson and al sharpton can come running in and blame their actions on institutionalized racism and the fact that their great,great,great, grandfathers were slaves. ;)
 
ElCid said:
The only people I know capable of perpetrating a crime like that are Black. Seriously........
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So out of the "people that you know" you know blacks that are capable of this or are you saying that you only think that people who have black skin are capable of this?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Better put than what I said. Agreed. It is pretty obvious. Should a guy be on there for showing his weener? Yes. To me it is a gateway action that leads to then cumming and throwing or eventual rape. The actions of those listed on Megan's Law are all pretty horrific and I have not seen one semi-normal looking person that had some minor offense. That is why I question why those here arguing as they are, hate children and innocent people. Where does the bleeding heart, we are turning the criminal into a victim crap coming from?
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I'm with you. Maine's Sexual Predator registry had pictures as well as name and address, and specific crime. Not a single one of them looked like there wasn't something wrong with them. I know that's entirely subjective...but sometimes you know someone just ain't right, the minute you see them.
 
ElCid said:
The only people I know capable of perpetrating a crime like that are Black. Seriously........
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Well, I'm half black....think I'm capable?
 
OscarB63 said:
If they are black, jesse jackson and al sharpton can come running in and blame their actions on institutionalized racism and the fact that their great,great,great, grandfathers were slaves. ;)
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And they be wrong for doing it. I think it's been quite some time since either of them played the slavery card though.
 
Bodhisattva said:
So out of the "people that you know" you know blacks that are capable of this or are you saying that you only think that people who have black skin are capable of this?
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Oh, hellz no. I'm just saying the only people I KNOW who are capable of this kind of perverse act are Black. That's all.
 
mac said:
And they be wrong for doing it. I think it's been quite some time since either of them played the slavery card though.
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How can Sharpton seriously represent Black interests when he 'conks' his hair like a White wannabe? Where's his Black pride?
 
OscarB63 said:
If they are black, jesse jackson and al sharpton can come running in and blame their actions on institutionalized racism and the fact that their great,great,great, grandfathers were slaves. ;)
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Not that I agree in anyway with how you seem to have twisted this to a racial issue - but it's too late for Sharpton and Jackson.. The New Black Panther Party beat them to the punch

"Quanell X, leader of the Black Panther movement in Houston - a mere 45 miles away - told ABC News: 'Every adult male that had sex with this child should go to prison, I don't care what the colour is.

'But I do not believe black males are the only ones that had contact with this young child. It appears to me there's only been the selective prosecution of one community, which is African-American"


Read more: Horrific gang rape by 18 men of girl, 11, in Texas sparks racial tension | Mail Online
 
snilloctjc said:
Not that I agree in anyway with how you seem to have twisted this to a racial issue - but it's too late for Sharpton and Jackson.. The New Black Panther Party beat them to the punch
"Quanell X, leader of the Black Panther movement in Houston - a mere 45 miles away - told ABC News: 'Every adult male that had sex with this child should go to prison, I don't care what the colour is.
'But I do not believe black males are the only ones that had contact with this young child. It appears to me there's only been the selective prosecution of one community, which is African-American"
Read more: Horrific gang rape by 18 men of girl, 11, in Texas sparks racial tension | Mail Online
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Oh..............so they were Black. Thought so..............
 
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