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Unemployment dips to 8.9 pct., 192K jobs added

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while you were perusing the bls database evidently you must have overlooked this little chart.:roll:

Never overlooked it at all but what do you expect when you spend over a trillion dollars to stimulate the economy? Let me know when the employment numbers get back to what they were when he took office. Obama record, 2 million fewer employed now than when he took office and 3.5 trillion added to the debt. Apparently you missed those results which have been posted many times.
 
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I'm not sure from where you get your "million a month" number. Your numbers show that total unemployed+discouaged was 12.6M in Jan 2009 when Obama started and is now 14.7. 2.1M/25 = 84K month. How do arrive at 1M/mo?

I did notice that in Bush's last 12 months the total unemployeed+discouraged increased by 4.6M or about 383K/mo. I also notice that the current trend is in the right direction.

I posted three charts there, unemployment, discouraged workers(where I got the million a month), and total unemployment+discouraged workers. Here is that chart separated. See it now?

Discouraged workers
2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642
2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318
2011 993 1020
 
Here ya go, move to Seattle, if your a techie and like rain have a go at it. 1900 hundred jobs. :2wave:

<Amid a sluggish job market and shaky economic recovery, the world's biggest Internet retailer is hiring like crazy at its headquarters complex. Consider Amazon's online jobs board: It lists about 1,900 openings in Seattle, at least twice as many as a year ago. More than 900 call for techies. >

url=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2014412815_amazon06.html]Business & Technology | Amazon.com on a hiring spree | Seattle Times Newspaper[/url]


Thanks for the info.... However, I do think that area has enough unemployed to fill any job demands. I have a couple of kids who did that kind of work around here, and the pay and benefits were lousy.... High turn over rate, and the work tentative to say the least since people have to have jobs or income to buy things....

The millions of real wealth generating private sector jobs that have been stripped out of this country have not returned, and until they do no amount of stats, or low paying computer sales jobs will stop the collapse of our Republic....


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while you were perusing the bls database evidently you must have overlooked this little chart.:roll:

Since I know how much you like posting all those gains in private sector employment under Obama. Let me know when they achieve the Bush levels prior to 2008

Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)
Original Data Value

Series Id: CES0500000001
Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector: Total private
Industry: Total private
NAICS Code: -
Data Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
Years: 2001 to 2011

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2001 111634 111624 111555 111227 111146 110910 110737 110544 110276 109918 109575 109368
2002 109214 109054 108989 108892 108814 108824 108732 108671 108659 108772 108758 108595
2003 108640 108484 108286 108252 108274 108233 108231 108266 108421 108570 108611 108724
2004 108882 108913 109213 109437 109747 109841 109883 109984 110135 110465 110493 110624
2005 110718 110949 111095 111441 111583 111847 112122 112311 112392 112492 112796 112934
2006 113247 113533 113795 113961 113965 114049 114200 114347 114432 114438 114628 114803
2007 114993 115051 115251 115308 115419 115469 115486 115391 115396 115470 115568 115606
2008 115610 115482 115395 115209 114969 114752 114487 114170 113736 113245 112458 111822
2009 110981 110260 109473 108700 108374 107936 107649 107434 107221 106971 106937 106835
2010 106793 106772 106916 107145 107193 107258 107351 107461 107570 107713 107841 108008
2011 108076 108298


I am sure that you will notice the 110.9 million private sector employees in January 2009 and the 108.3 million in February 2011. Looks to me like a 2.6 million decrease after spending over a trillion dollars to turn this around. How do you explain less private sector jobs today than when Obama took office?
 
I am sure that you will notice the 110.9 million private sector employees in January 2009 and the 108.3 million in February 2011. Looks to me like a 2.6 million decrease after spending over a trillion dollars to turn this around. How do you explain less private sector jobs today than when Obama took office?

It's easier to blame Bush, than it is to explain how spending a trillion FAILED to improve the picture.
 
Thanks for the info.... However, I do think that area has enough unemployed to fill any job demands. I have a couple of kids who did that kind of work around here, and the pay and benefits were lousy.... High turn over rate, and the work tentative to say the least since people have to have jobs or income to buy things....


Absolutely...the thing that the Obamabots never want to talk about or admit is that in counting their supposed jobs, they count anything. If you were a software tech, that made upper 5 digits, and take a job working some check cashing hole for $9 an hour with no benefits, well then you are employed....Back to work...

This group in the WH now lies with ease. Remember the stimulus jobs that were "saved" or "created"? They were counting some jobs more than one time, and even going as far as counting those jobs that only worked say 4 hours in any particular week as jobs for the month. What a joke.

The numbers are skewed. I believe that the rate is really closer to 15% or even 20% when you take all the factors in to account. You want solid manufacturing, and business enterprise to come back to America? Then we have to show them the incentive to do such. And we have to sell them on the idea that America is great again. Something Obama can't do because he doesn't believe that.

j-mac
 
Thank you President Obama for preventing a meltdown and stimulating job growth.

Great job! Jobs and the economy will be the focus of the next election.
 
Thank you President Obama for preventing a meltdown and stimulating job growth.

Great job! Jobs and the economy will be the focus of the next election.

Absolutely, congratulations President Obama for showing the world how naive, gullible, and misinformed liberals are and that they will always vote based upon rhetoric and not data or facts. Jobs and the economy will be the focus of the next election and creating less employment than when Obama took office will resonate.
 
Absolutely, congratulations President Obama for showing the world how naive, gullible, and misinformed liberals are and that they will always vote based upon rhetoric and not data or facts. Jobs and the economy will be the focus of the next election and creating less employment than when Obama took office will resonate.

Except that you've been caught multiple times twisting Data, quoting it out of context and then denying or refusing to acknowledge that you've been caught.

So you talking like this is well... ironic.
 
Except that you've been caught multiple times twisting Data, quoting it out of context and then denying or refusing to acknowledge that you've been caught.

So you talking like this is well... ironic.

Interesting, prove it. You buy what the other liberals tell you and ignore their distortion. What exactly have I misquoted or twisted? I give the sites where i get my information.
 
Absolutely...the thing that the Obamabots never want to talk about or admit is that in counting their supposed jobs, they count anything. If you were a software tech, that made upper 5 digits, and take a job working some check cashing hole for $9 an hour with no benefits, well then you are employed....Back to work...

This group in the WH now lies with ease. Remember the stimulus jobs that were "saved" or "created"? They were counting some jobs more than one time, and even going as far as counting those jobs that only worked say 4 hours in any particular week as jobs for the month. What a joke.

The numbers are skewed. I believe that the rate is really closer to 15% or even 20% when you take all the factors in to account. You want solid manufacturing, and business enterprise to come back to America? Then we have to show them the incentive to do such. And we have to sell them on the idea that America is great again. Something Obama can't do because he doesn't believe that.

j-mac

Correct.... It is all one big shell game perpetrated by the progressive global governance clowns in both the so-called two parties.... Watch the right hand while their left continues stripping the real wealth and power away from our people....
 
It's easier to blame Bush, than it is to explain how spending a trillion FAILED to improve the picture.

It's easier to talk in mindless prepackaged soundbites than it is to show what you are claiming. Since all the evidence is that the stimulus did create jobs and grow the economy, in point of fact your argument is not just mindless but wrong.
 
Except that you've been caught multiple times twisting Data, quoting it out of context and then denying or refusing to acknowledge that you've been caught.

So you talking like this is well... ironic.


Nonsense. "out of context" is a liberal cop out to ensure that they don't have to face reality. Look Jet, it takes what? 200K, 210K new jobs per month just to stay static in the unemployment numbers? His administration got close with the 192K but this ain't horseshoes. Yet they reported that the rate went down....it is a lie, and libs are gullible enough to buy it lock, stock, and barrel.


j-mac
 
It's easier to talk in mindless prepackaged soundbites than it is to show what you are claiming. Since all the evidence is that the stimulus did create jobs and grow the economy, in point of fact your argument is not just mindless but wrong.


Um no it didn't.....Growing the economy means adding more jobs than just those to keep the country at the same levels without losing ground....I call it treading water.


j-mac
 
Interesting, prove it. You buy what the other liberals tell you and ignore their distortion. What exactly have I misquoted or twisted? I give the sites where i get my information.

That's rather funny because you know, you never addressed this post:

Originally Posted by Conservative

I offer facts that can be verified but often are ignored.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

Conservative: "tax cuts in 2001-2002 were rebates, withholding rates were dropped as part of the tax cuts that went into effect July 2003."

Oops: http://www.unclefed.com/IRS-Forms/2000/p15t.pdf
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Conservative: "It is easy to claim that Bush had a higher percentage of unemployment but notice you didn't mention Bush had a net job gain in his first two years and a net job gain over 8 whereas Obama has a net job loss in two years."

Oops: 1/2001: 137,778,000; 1/2003: 137,417,000; Net job loss: 361,000 jobs; Bureau of Labor Statistics Data ___________________

Conservative: "I posted what the CBO said. why aren't you concerned about the CBO stating that all those jobs created or saved cost 228k per job?"

Oops: No mention anywhere in the CBO report of jobs costing $228,000 per job. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/120xx/doc12074/02-23-ARRA.pdf
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Conservative: "Obama takes office and loses more jobs in 2010 than were lost in 2009 but of course that doesn't matter to the Obama cult."

Oops: 2009: 2,858,000 jobs lost; 2010: 979,000 jobs gained; Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Conservative: "I suggest you stop acting like fool, they had access to exactly the same intelligence"

Oops: Intelligence given to Bush: 96 page NIE; Intelligence given to 95% of Congress: http://usiraq.procon.org/sourcefiles/2002 National Intelligence Estimate.pdf
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Face it, Conservative, you wouldn't know a fact if you tripped over one.

In fact you ran away from this post like it was a hot potato.

Face it Conservative, you've lied about your "facts" in the past to push your agenda, its obvious and blatant and the more you run from that, the deeper a hole you dig, and the more we're all having a very good chuckle.
 
Um no it didn't.....Growing the economy means adding more jobs than just those to keep the country at the same levels without losing ground....I call it treading water.


j-mac

GDP grew about 1.5 to 3.5 % due to the stimulus according to CBO, as per link provided by Conservative.
 
Nonsense. "out of context" is a liberal cop out to ensure that they don't have to face reality. Look Jet, it takes what? 200K, 210K new jobs per month just to stay static in the unemployment numbers? His administration got close with the 192K but this ain't horseshoes. Yet they reported that the rate went down....it is a lie, and libs are gullible enough to buy it lock, stock, and barrel.


j-mac
Not a lie... it just means that the labor force shrunk. There are five unemployed for every job opening. People are simply giving up. Retiring. Staying home with the kids. Screw this.
 
GDP grew about 1.5 to 3.5 % due to the stimulus according to CBO, as per link provided by Conservative.
3.5% ? We haven't had a GDP that high since 2004. Or are you claiming that the stimulus worked because it raised it by that much for a single quarter?
 
3.5% ? We haven't had a GDP that high since 2004. Or are you claiming that the stimulus worked because it raised it by that much for a single quarter?

Total since the stimulus package went into effect, not for one quarter. That would be why I did not use the word "quarter" or specify which.
 
GDP grew about 1.5 to 3.5 % due to the stimulus according to CBO, as per link provided by Conservative.


Elmendorf has been either bought, or threatened by the administration. I don't believe those numbers for one second.


j-mac
 
Elmendorf has been either bought, or threatened by the administration. I don't believe those numbers for one second.


j-mac

It's all a conspiracy!!! Reality has a liberal bias!!!!
 
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It's all a conspiracy!!! Reality has a liberal bias!!!!

Yeah, you think so do you....? Remember this event?

Jesus. This is wildly inappropriate.

After a week in which Doug Elmendorf, the head of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, said that Congressional health care overhauls would balloon federal health care obligations by $240 billion over the next decade, the President Obama called him into the Oval Office for a little chat.

But Elmendorf didn't just get leaned on by the president. He was outnumbered by something like 10-1

CBO Chief Called Into the Principal's Oval Office | Rolling Stone Politics | National Affairs | Tim Dickinson on Political News


And look, I even used the Rolling Stone's own report of it....Not some right wing source. Oh and what was their opening line? "Jesus. This is wildly inappropriate." Yeah....ok.


j-mac
 
That's rather funny because you know, you never addressed this post:





In fact you ran away from this post like it was a hot potato.

Face it Conservative, you've lied about your "facts" in the past to push your agenda, its obvious and blatant and the more you run from that, the deeper a hole you dig, and the more we're all having a very good chuckle.

Didn't run away at all, all posts are irrelevant, In July 2003 the rate cuts were accelerated and the economy started generating jobs. Withholding tables are printed every year. What is the point of that entire "gotcha?"

As for percentage change, does it really matter. Which matters more the larger increase in percentages or the larger increase in actual numbers. If the base is higher then the percentage change is going to be lower but the actual numbers are real.

As was posted regarding job losses I was referring to employment numbers and if you even check the unemployment numbers they were worse than 2009 but you want to badly believe Sheik. Did you go to bls and confirm who was right? Employment is two million lower today than it was when Obama took office and 2.5 million less in the private sector. Keep buying what someone else tells you because you want badly to believe what they are saying. Sorry that I have created that type response here that you have to have a gotcha moment.

As for Iraq, the 9/11 Commission report, the actual quotes of Democrats prior to Bush taking office and even after taking office refute your comments.

As has been proven over and over again, I offer specific non partisan data that you ignore but continue to buy rhetoric from others that you want to believe.
 
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