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Student accused of plotting to bomb Bush home

apdst said:
I doubt it. We might get our asses chewed for it, but that's all.
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That is delusional talk. You saying that is as crazy as any far FAR left wing person. That belongs in the catagory of fecal matter. America stands for something much MUCH better than that man.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
What allies? You mean the leeches that we waste tax payer money protecting?
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I don't remember them asking you nicely to stay. Particularly France, Germany, Japan, and South Korea. It's a happenstance of the latest world war.

I doubt it. We might get our asses chewed for it, but that's all.
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Don't act like mighty America heroically holds their weight. They have the means and some have drafted measures to replace American military might if the 'protectorate' were to be withdrawn.

Which muslim army is attacking us again? With bombs and tanks and centers of productions oriented against our military power?
Or are you talking about mercilessly slaughtering civilians until they give in?
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^ I noticed everyone neglected the above. Seems to be a habit. Does this mean you don't have the means to reply and concede? You were pretty adamant on the 'terrorist armies' before.
 
SE102 said:
Which Muslim army is attacking us again?
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An army of Islamic jihadis hell bent on killing as many infidels as possible while installing an Islamic caliphate across the world. It's not that difficult to figure out. jihadis tell us everyday what they want to do and how they intend to do it.

SE102 said:
With bombs and tanks and centers of productions oriented against our military power?
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They use hijacked airplanes, IED's and suicide bombers (including children) to attack our "military power". Just to name a few.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
So you are implying that all Muslims are terrorists?
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Where do you see that? I'd be pleased to know how you came up with that idea in order that I make myself more clear.

I tend not to imply, Mr. Invisible. If i were to believe all Muslims are terrorists you can be assured that I will say it.
 
Ron Mars said:
An army of Islamic jihadis hell bent on killing as many infidels as possible while installing an Islamic caliphate across the world. It's not that difficult to figure out. jihadis tell us everyday what they want to do and how they intend to do it.
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Something tells me. That somewhere there is a definition of what is an army... but who would define what an army is. Such a dilemma... Can anyone tell me who defines what an army is. I don't think you're buggered enough to move down to the ME forum with me. I don't even like it down there. Also, you say global caliphate, is this some sort-of apocalyptic religious thing the US army and a few dozen thousands terrorists are engaged in?

They use hijacked airplanes, IED's and suicide bombers (including children) to attack our "military power". Just to name a few.
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So bomb the children suicide bombers? And bomb the hijacked airplanes? What are you bombing again? How you're going to use a military to fight a global asymmetric war that is more political than it is a classic war... might present a dilemma to you. And last I remembered our allies against terror have used kids as human shields as well... the enemies kids...
 
SE102 said:
I don't remember them asking you nicely to stay. Particularly France, Germany, Japan, and South Korea. It's a happenstance of the latest world war.
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You don't remember West Germany, Japan or South Korea asking for the US to keep military bases in those countries? I do. They signed agreements with the US for that very purpose.

I was stationed in SK for a year ('87-'88) and the vast majority of the Korean people are very thankful for the US presence. I went back as a civilian in 97' and they still felt the same way. South Koreans are the nicest and most decent people I've ever met outside the US and they know why the US is there.
 
Ron Mars said:
You don't remember West Germany, Japan or South Korea asking for the US to keep military bases in those countries? I do. They signed agreements with the US for that very purpose.

I was stationed in SK for a year ('87-'88) and the vast majority of the Korean people are very thankful for the US presence. I went back as a civilian in 97' and they still felt the same way. South Koreans are the nicest and most decent people I've ever met outside the US and they know why the US is there.
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Do you realize South Korean 'defense' is an inheritance from Japan? And I'm not sure how voluntary Japans occup---- protectorate was initially. Mind you, I don't defend empires, the essentials don't differ too strongly. Also 'vast majority very thankful for the US presence' well... don't know about that without seeing numbers. Theres also alot of people unhappy with the US there as well. I couldnt estimate what it was like at all, nor likely you if on the DMZ.
 
Once again another Saudi in the footprints of his Saudi brothers who brought down the Twin Towers attempts to do damage to us...


So why are we in Iraq and Afganistan?
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Crickets chirping.

It's been, what, a decade now - yep - full 10 years.

And only one single punk kid tries to plan to bomb his house. Where have all the other hateful people been all this damned time?
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Trying to set off explosive devices but their hatreds seem to have overwhelmed their intelligence.

Of course a lot of hateful Muslims have been successful in destroying innocent lives since 9/11, and before, There are websites where you can actually follow their successes against innocent victims, if you genuinely want to learn more about it.
 
SE102 said:
Something tells me. That somewhere there is a definition of what is an army... but who would define what an army is. Such a dilemma... Can anyone tell me who defines what an army is.
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Of course the term Army can be used in many contexts, not just military. In this case, the "Army" in question is a group of armed jihadis targeting innocent people around the world.


SE102 said:
Also, you say global caliphate, is this some sort-of apocalyptic religious thing the US army and a few dozen thousands terrorists are engaged in?
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No, it wouldn't be that at all. How or why you would think that is anyone's guess.

Again, jihadis tell us everyday what they want to do and how they intend to do it.


SE102 said:
So bomb the children suicide bombers? And bomb the hijacked airplanes? What are you bombing again?
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We attack the jihadis before they strap the bombs on children. We kill them before they hijack airplanes. We are attacking Islamic jihadis who are deliberately targeting innocent people around the world.


SE102 said:
How you're going to use a military to fight a global asymmetric war that is more political than it is a classic war... might present a dilemma to you.
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This war is mostly political and I firmly believe it will not be won on the battlefield. There are many fronts in this war. The battlefield is important and must be won. No matter how much social or political success is achieved in the ME, it will not survive without winning on the battlefield.


SE102 said:
And last I remembered our allies against terror have used kids as human shields as well... the enemies kids...
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I have no idea what you can possibly mean by this. US and coalition military forces are using kids as human shields?

I think you have the US and our allies confused with Islamic jihadis.
 
SE102 said:
Do you realize South Korean 'defense' is an inheritance from Japan? And I'm not sure how voluntary Japans occup---- protectorate was initially. Mind you, I don't defend empires, the essentials don't differ too strongly. Also 'vast majority very thankful for the US presence' well... don't know about that without seeing numbers. Theres also alot of people unhappy with the US there as well. I couldnt estimate what it was like at all, nor likely you if on the DMZ.
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South Korea's 'defense' is a result of North Korea's attack in 1950. It has nothing to do with Japan.

While in S. Korea I was on a hilltop just outside Osan AB with our radio when some S. Korean students came to protest our "presence". I never felt threatened in anyway. After about 30 minutes or so they stopped chanting and sat down. We went over and talked with the ones who spoke English. We ended up swapping smokes, gave them some chocolate bars, and talked for a little while. We shook hands as they left.

The older Koreans don't protest. They know why the US is there.
 
Grant said:
Trying to set off explosive devices but their hatreds seem to have overwhelmed their intelligence.

Of course a lot of hateful Muslims have been successful in destroying innocent lives since 9/11, and before, There are websites where you can actually follow their successes against innocent victims, if you genuinely want to learn more about it.
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For how low his approval ratings went - for all the hatred that he stirred from US citizens (not even talking about the terorrism-elements) - I'm just surprised that this is the first situation remotely like this in all of this time.

Obama's had more attempts against himself than Bush.
 
This war is mostly political and I firmly believe it will not be won on the battlefield. There are many fronts in this war. The battlefield is important and must be won. No matter how much social or political success is achieved in the ME, it will not survive without winning on the battlefield.
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You sound like you're fighting WWII all over again.
 
Grant said:
Of course a lot of hateful Muslims have been successful in destroying innocent lives since 9/11, and before, There are websites where you can actually follow their successes against innocent victims, if you genuinely want to learn more about it.
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I WANT TO VIEW THESE WEBSITES OF ULTIMATE EVIL!!!!! shoe them tew us!

Or maybe you can read them and retell us the stories.
 
Ron Mars said:
South Korea's 'defense' is a result of North Korea's attack in 1950. It has nothing to do with Japan.

While in S. Korea I was on a hilltop just outside Osan AB with our radio when some S. Korean students came to protest our "presence". I never felt threatened in anyway. After about 30 minutes or so they stopped chanting and sat down. We went over and talked with the ones who spoke English. We ended up swapping smokes, gave them some chocolate bars, and talked for a little while. We shook hands as they left.

The older Koreans don't protest. They know why the US is there.
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Oh, I'm sure they'd be civil of course. They are much more likely to raze a university in frustration. After all. You have machine guns and whatnot.
 
The Giant Noodle said:
Wow..... and guess what religion he is! :roll: Any muslim here care to say anything about this!?!?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41758705/ns/us_news-security/
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And what do you expect with American enablers like this running around loose?
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SE102 said:
Oh, I'm sure they'd be civil of course. They are much more likely to raze a university in frustration. After all. You have machine guns and whatnot.
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I was an enlisted Air Force radio maintenance tech. We were unarmed as they could plainly see.

There was no reason to be armed. There was no threat. No fear of violence of any kind from either side.
 
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