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BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

You honestly don't know the difference between criminals and terrorists?

And, you obviously don't know what I mean when I say, "heads and tails".
 
Nope. You are. Somali pirates and Al Qaeda have nothing in common. Different coin.

Both murder Americans. I would say they have alot in common.
 
Both murder Americans. I would say they have alot in common.

Americans murder Americans. Doesn't mean they have anything in common with Somalis or Al Qaeda.
 

That was back in 2007 and Somalia has been run by warlords since 1991, long before George Bush was President. It remains an ugly mark against civilization. The country should be cordoned off from the rest of the world indefinitely.

The first thing third worlders apparently learn, apart from how to destroy each other, is to blame everything on the United States, just as you're doing. That absolves them of any responsibility for their own behavior, and of course you can always find support from the Left who will also agree that the US is the Great Satan,

Meanwhile conditions continue to deteriorate, the Somalian people continue to degenerate into one of the world ugliest cultures, no solution is nearly in sight, and it will continue to be the fault of the Americans. There are often excellent reasons why third world countries are third world countries.
 
Americans murder Americans. Doesn't mean they have anything in common with Somalis or Al Qaeda.

Now you're talking about American citizens, not foreign nationals that violate out soveriegnty to kill Americans.
 
Americans murder Americans. Doesn't mean they have anything in common with Somalis or Al Qaeda.

When Americans murder Americans they face American justice.

I guess the Somalians deserve American justice as well then.
 
When Americans murder Americans they face American justice.

I guess the Somalians deserve American justice as well then.

They deserve worse.
 
Besides, I don't understand why were 4 American civilians touring around the Somali coasts with no armed escort. Citizens who want to pass through that area should be legally forced to be escorted by armed security personnel.

That was my first thought. What the hell were they thinking? No one can be sailing in that area unaware of the threat of pirates. Either they were incredibly stupid, or they had some powerful, driving reason to be there that overrode concerns for their own safety.
 
Y'know, you're a bit of a douche, for, ironically, two reasons 1) My brother's a Christian missionary, so I find your statement offensive, and 2) You advocate random bomings rather than actually targeting just the pirates, which is just stupid and will make more people turn to piracy.

You shouldn't be in Somalia because of terrorism issues and the fact that, uhm, it has no visible government. Going there as a Christian missionary? Not so clever. Secondly, the US uses drones in Pakistan because there are pockets of areas where terrorists have a visible and dominant presence. Same goes for Somalia, but pirates too. At least Pakistan is functioning to an extend as an elected government.

Otherwise, insensitive and stupid post.
 
1) unarmed vessels traveling near Somalia is akin to a guy wearing a 3000 dollar suit and a Rolex watch walking in the South Bronx or East LA at 2 AM. doesn't mean they deserve to get robbed or killed but you have to say STUPID

2) the captured pirates are not entitled to geneva convention protections. they are not in uniform and piracy-like spying-has traditionally merited summary execution. after the bandits are interrogated, they should be quickly shot

3)since there is no viable government or organization behind this banditry diplomacy has no value. the only proper response is to kill those responsible as fast and efficiently as possible. this does not mean machine gunning or rocketing every vessel in the area but it does mean any active piracy should be met with utter and total ruthlessness.
 
They deserve worse.

That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

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That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

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It's not that. It doesn't matter to me the nationality of the victims. Thugs that murder people for no reason deserve the worst.
 
[
QUOTE=Arcadius;1059302783]Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples.

No.
Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down.

Yes, and other demcracies should develop the same attitude.
We are somehow separate from these people?

Clearly.

We are somehow better than these people?

Infinitely!

We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries

Certainly didn't in WWII but are you saying that the US is the 'policman of the world"?

(and when we're the ones who do it).

And when was that?

But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up.

So you're okay with that?

Sometimes people just disgust me.

Me too!
 
It's not that. It doesn't matter to me the nationality of the victims. Thugs that murder people for no reason deserve the worst.

I was just using your comment as an example. It's kind of easy to misinterpret your meaning when one reads the previous post. There is just this strange separation of our country from the rest of the world.
 

Clearly you don't live in America, because I hear it every three seconds.


Yes, and other demcracies should develop the same attitude.

So, we shouldn't help innocent people in need? Maybe we could actually uphold our lofty moral ideals for once.



Last time I checked we were all human.



Infinitely!

Not even a little.



Certainly didn't in WWII but are you saying that the US is the 'policman of the world"?

Yeah, after we were attacked we started playing the good guy (while bombing civilian populations). What I'm saying is that these are things that everyone should care about and want to stop. THESE ARE HUMAN PROBLEMS!



And when was that?

Ever heard about those people who lived here before us?


So you're okay with that?

No, but there are far more deplorable acts that we almost completely ignore.




Clearly not as intensely as me.
 
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That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

:rantoff:

It's that attitude that made America great.
 
She's said it numerous times on this forum.

Quote me where I have supported murder. Pfft.

I'm not going to condemn them. If that is what you are asking, if any ship enters Somali waters then yes. It deserves to be nicked. They are doing no different to what happened to them :shrug:

IW is a different issue

LOL
You mean evidence like United Nations Environment Programme and EU saying systematic illegal dumping and fishing has been occurring in Somalia?

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How about some links about European and Asian companies illegally fishing?
Do you know what is really funny ... Pirates have badly affected the fishing Industry. Now why would the fishing Industry, in particular tuna be so affected like that :roll:

Take your ignorance elsewhere, why do you think so few African neighbours are fighting Somali Pirates. Because the voluntary coast guards are doing more good than bad.
It is fine when rich countries break law but somehow it is the end of the world when a poor country does the same. Please, it doesn't work like that

You don't condemn those countries but expect me to start condemning people defending their country and people? No no.

Defending Somali waters from foreigners poisoning us, good. Now it's just plain greed. Stupidly holding a US hostage? I mean come on, were they high when they hatched that plan? :roll:

Edit: Note how many hijackings are happening close to Somalia. You deserve it
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But then again, I do not know why I am trying to explain the simple to you.
Someone who actually believes the Pirates are somehow in league with Islamists
 
That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

:rantoff:

Are we really that surprised?
Poor countries are expected to hold to the same law many wealthy and 1st world countries disregard.

This is nothing new. The double standard. One can get away with breaking the law, the other cannot.

It's that attitude that made America great.

Haha

Okay.
 
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It's one of the many things that makes deplore the fact that I was born in America.
Then take your ass to Somalia. Problem solved.
 
I guess they'd never heard of somali pirates. Or else they were just really, really cocky.
 
I guess they'd never heard of somali pirates. Or else they were just really, really cocky.

Crazy would be my guess.

I wouldn't go anywhere near HOA if I was sailing. No idea why anyone would unless they are escorted.
 
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