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CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests

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So I hear they were shouting "jew" as they raped her.


These savages should be shot and killed. Think they will face any justice? :roll:

Of course they won't, cause Obama is a big puss.
 
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I have to partially blame her judgement... for whatever reason. She didn't ask for it... but this is akin to a war correspondent putting himself too close to the front lines and getting shot. Is it not his fault for getting too close or is it the enemy's fault for shooting a non-combatant who's next to someone shooting at them?
I don't think that comparison is the same. In a war zone, you expect bullets. In supposedly "pro Democracy" demonstrations in broad daylight with security and hundreds of people around, you don't (or I don't) automatically think rape. Besides, are you comparing these rapists to soldiers in battle?
 
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I don't think that comparison is the same. In a war zone, you expect bullets.
And in a crowd of tens of thousands, don't you expect danger?

In supposedly "pro Democracy" demonstrations in broad daylight with security and hundreds of people around, you don't (or I don't) automatically think rape. Besides, are you comparing these rapists to soldiers in battle?
I think that's the common mistake - we, Americans, think that pro-Democracy has the safety and same meaning everywhere, just like it has here. It doesn't. There was an expectation of danger going into that crowd and she well knew and heard that other journalists have been assaulted - seriously injured. She had a lapse in judgement. Are you seriously saying she didn't?
 
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You are being PC, where it is unwarranted.
I don't think I've ever been accused of being PC. You might want to consider, before you say that about me, that you're essentially making the same argument as Hatuey and WhySoSerious. No, I think we've seen the PC response here, and that's to be more concerned with what this event did to damage the protesters' image than what this did to damage the victim.

You think by even suggesting some blame on her or her handlers, rape is condoned. That's bull****.
Once again, I'm not saying that anyone condones this. I'm willing to believe that nobody does. I'm just expressing frustration at the idea that Logan is partially at fault here. Blaming everything but the scum suckers who did this is akin to blaming "society" for a criminals actions in the US and that is most decidedly not a conservative position in my eyes.
 
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I don't think I've ever been accused of being PC. You might want to consider, before you say that about me, that you're essentially making the same argument as Hatuey and WhySoSerious. No, I think we've seen the PC response here, and that's to be more concerned with what this event did to damage the protesters' image than what this did to damage the victim.

Once again, I'm not saying that anyone condones this. I'm willing to believe that nobody does. I'm just expressing frustration at the idea that Logan is partially at fault here. Blaming everything but the scum suckers who did this is akin to blaming "society" for a criminals actions in the US and that is most decidedly not a conservative position in my eyes.

I don't think we'll close the gap, because you still think she made zero mistakes. And btw, that doesn't mean the bastards don't deserve punishment, it only means that the risks were improperly assessed but everyone up the line.
 
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And in a crowd of tens of thousands, don't you expect danger?

I think that's the common mistake - we, Americans, think that pro-Democracy has the safety and same meaning everywhere, just like it has here. It doesn't. There was an expectation of danger going into that crowd and she well knew and heard that other journalists have been assaulted - seriously injured. She had a lapse in judgement. Are you seriously saying she didn't?
I'm saying it was not a lapse in judgment for her to not expect to be raped.
 
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I don't think we'll close the gap, because you still think she made zero mistakes. And btw, that doesn't mean the bastards don't deserve punishment, it only means that the risks were improperly assessed but everyone up the line.
Yeah, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
 
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Pretty much sums it up with a one-word headline.
 
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20-30 minutes??!? What in the hell were they doing to her for that long that was NOT considered rape!?!
 
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and yet, glenn beck said this moring, and i quote "she was raped by 200 men".

...and yet, I'm not Glenn Beck and am capable of doing my own research into issues. ;)
 
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and yet, glenn beck said this moring, and i quote "she was raped by 200 men".

OK, she was molested. Feel better? What's your point?
 
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and yet, glenn beck said this moring, and i quote "she was raped by 200 men".
Well and we all know that what Beck said is what's really important in this whole thing. :roll:
 
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I'm shaking with anger at reading the rest of this thread. Some are ignoring what this woman went through to push through a political agenda... "see, all muslims are violent and can't be trusted." Excuse me, but it was muslims, women and men, who rescued her. Some are basically blaming her for being there, because hell, everyone knows that a hot woman is going to get herself raped if she tries to do the same job her male counterparts do... "see, this is why women just aren't suited to go where men go." Some are saying, "hey, a lot of journalists got beat up, so she should have expected it" without noting that the area inside Liberation Square AFTER the two days of thugs-gone-wild was about the ONLY place safe for journalists, and the only place journalists... male or female... were reporting from.

This woman was targeted by a large group of criminals... not muslims, dammit, opportunistic criminals, a group that systematically pushed between her and her tv crew and her security personnel. They knew exactly what they were doing, they planned to kidnap her, and they did it. If not for the bravery of muslim women who eventually saw what was happening and rushed to her rescue, alerting the Egyptian soldiers who ran to assist, she might have been killed.

But hey, it's a great way to use a woman's horrific experience, a woman who is STILL hospitalized with severe injuries, to push a political, xenophobic, or misogynist agenda without anyone actually giving a fat flying fig about the courageous woman who, in the course of doing her job, was brutalized.

God, some of the posts on this thread have sickened me.

DiAnna, I think you are missing the point of where she was.

She went to a country where human life has very little value.

She was working for an American company so she was grouped in with Americans.

A foriegner can't go into a country like Egypt and think they are somehow special or protected for the mere fact that she was not from there.

I don't think it has anything to do with "see, this is why women just aren't suited to go where men go." She shouldn't have been in a place where he life meant nothing.

I wish people would live in the real world and not in the fantasy world they create for themselves. (I am talking about the reporters and not you)
 
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cbs tried to cover it up

CBS complicit in news coverup - BostonHerald.com

the misogynist face of HATE that permeates so much of islamic maleness runs counter, evidently, to whatever agenda tiffany is tossing these days

even at the expense of one of its own, even at the price of the reputation of 60 minutes, even at the cost of its concern for the treatment of women

paley is shamed in his grave
 
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cbs tried to cover it up

CBS complicit in news coverup - BostonHerald.com

the misogynist face of HATE that permeates so much of islamic maleness runs counter, evidently, to whatever agenda tiffany is tossing these days

even at the expense of one of its own, even at the price of the reputation of 60 minutes, even at the cost of its concern for the treatment of women

paley is shamed in his grave

do you think it's possible that she didn't want the story told?
 
My sympathy to Ms. Logan for what she went thru but.... what the hell was she doing there in the first place??? Is CBS out of there fricking mind? You'd think they would have gotten a clue after the Fox guys were roughed up. No... what I see here is very Nieve Liberals (at CBS) thinking they were covering a simple democracy movement (which is what the dear leader told them)without considering the Radical Islamic element which is a large segment of the Egyptian people.

Personally I'm not at all surprised

In Islam this type of treatment of "Kafir" women is commonplace, just ask the Copts........ or pick up a history book.
 
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See, this is nothing more than partisanship to you. It isn't about the rape, but how you want to push a certain political viewpoint and want help doing it. This woman looked western, she LOOKED European and was a easy target. These people hate the West. The Muslim Brotherhood is in there pushing Sharia Law, and trying to ride in on the back of this revolution. When they raped this women, they were raping the West; that's my take. And I think it's accurate. All that matters to you is that someone pushes liberalism. :doh:

Muslim woman and man get raped in the ME too. There were a lot of attacks on journalist, Western and Egyptian.

People need to understand that there were different fractions of people in the crowd. The anti-government protestors, the hired hands by the government to stoke violence into the protest, the police, the soldiers. The government tried to shut down the journalists in many ways. Some of those people could get out of hand and attack this particular female reporter because they saw the opportunity. There's no particular reason to believe that she was attacked because of her hair color or because the crowds were Muslims, or because she was female.
 
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You are being PC, where it is unwarranted. You think by even suggesting some blame on her or her handlers, rape is condoned. That's bull****. You don't think a risk assessment was done prior to doing over there? If it wasn't CBS ought to be shut down. I'll be they coordinated this trip with the State dept. Nevertheless, I think a mistake was made. If that sounds sexist, I'm sorry. But it's not more sexist than not putting women in the infantry. She was placed in an extremely risky environment for any reporter, and I think the fact that she looked Nordic (and was a women) might have made it worse. There were tons of people that hate the West out there, the West supported Mubarak for years.

This guy looks "ethnic" and he was attacked: BBC Reporter Beaten In Egypt | Assad Sawey | Egyptian Reporter | Mediaite

Why does no one acknowledge the Egyptian Journalist that was killed?
 
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DiAnna, I think you are missing the point of where she was.

She went to a country where human life has very little value.

She was working for an American company so she was grouped in with Americans.

A foriegner can't go into a country like Egypt and think they are somehow special or protected for the mere fact that she was not from there.

I don't think it has anything to do with "see, this is why women just aren't suited to go where men go." She shouldn't have been in a place where he life meant nothing.

I wish people would live in the real world and not in the fantasy world they create for themselves. (I am talking about the reporters and not you)


Have you ever been to Egypt? Egyptian are quite nice though they are very touchy and outgoing (even more than Americans). I'm Asian, and they seem to like that, always want to pinch my cheeks, whereas Americans want to hug when we meet, say goodbye etc. They definitely don't regard human as close to nothing. In Cairo and other touristy place like Luxor, Westerners are a norm.
 
My sympathy to Ms. Logan for what she went thru but.... what the hell was she doing there in the first place??? Is CBS out of there fricking mind? You'd think they would have gotten a clue after the Fox guys were roughed up. No... what I see here is very Nieve Liberals (at CBS) thinking they were covering a simple democracy movement (which is what the dear leader told them)without considering the Radical Islamic element which is a large segment of the Egyptian people.

Personally I'm not at all surprised

In Islam this type of treatment of "Kafir" women is commonplace, just ask the Copts........ or pick up a history book.

Or you could put that book down, and buy a ticket to the Middle East to see for yourself that "seaxual assault" of "kafir" is nowhere near common place.
 
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So I hear they were shouting "jew" as they raped her.
i've been to egypt quite a few times. i'm blonde, i've never been sexually assaulted and i've never been called a jew.

you get assholes anywhere. not just in egypt. i'm sure everyone is aware of the hundreds of thousands of sexual assualts that happen in the U.S. every year and i'm sure everyone is equally outraged about that right?

i hope she will be ok and recovers soon.
 
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i've been to egypt quite a few times. i'm blonde, i've never been sexually assaulted and i've never been called a jew.

you get assholes anywhere. not just in egypt. i'm sure everyone is aware of the hundreds of thousands of sexual assualts that happen in the U.S. every year and i'm sure everyone is equally outraged about that right?

i hope she will be ok and recovers soon.
Why does your knee-jerk response have to be, "well, Americans do it too"? Are we not allowed to be upset about this? Well, don't worry, I'm sure nothing bad will happen to the guys who did this.

Anyway You must have missed where I said all rapists are scum, however, it takes a special kind of "boldness" to do that to a reporter in the middle of a news report. That suggests to me that it was more than a rape, it was a statement.
 
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Well, don't worry, I'm sure nothing bad will happen to the guys who did this.
you're edgy this morning mr x. do you need a hug?

you really need to stop jumping to conclusions. i'm not the least bit worried that something bad might happen to them. i hope they are caught and held accountable for their disgusting actions.

Anyway You must have missed where I said all rapists are scum
you must have missed the part where i said they were assholes.
 
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