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Young Protesters Clash With Police in Bahrain

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/world/middleeast/15bahrain.html?_r=1&hp

Skirmishes broke out early Monday between heavily armed police and scattered groups of young people in villages outside of the capital, as this strategically important nation in the Persian Gulf braced to see if the wave of unrest which has toppled two presidents would reach its sun-scorched shores.

Shops stayed closed and shuttered, the streets were clear of cars amid a heavy police presence, and there were calls for universities to close in anticipation of what organizers here have called Bahrain’s own “Day of Rage,” a demonstration modeled after the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia.

“What happened in Egypt and Tunisia inspired us,” said Maryam al Khawaja, 23, with the Bahrain Center for Human Rights Monday. “For years, there has been hopelessness here. Are we ever really going to be able to change anything? With Egypt, there is a sense of empowerment, that the young people can do it.”

Freedom is apparently a dangerously contagious virus.
 
I see protesters as idiots every time they try to fight with police. It makes them look really stupid and invites a very harsh response.

If you want to peacefully protest that's fine but once police say move on you need to shut up, hat up and leave the area.

Sorry but I don't any respect any dumb-ass who tries to stand up to armed police.
 
I see protesters as idiots every time they try to fight with police. It makes them look really stupid and invites a very harsh response.

If you want to peacefully protest that's fine but once police say move on you need to shut up, hat up and leave the area.

Sorry but I don't any respect any dumb-ass who tries to stand up to armed police.

It is all in one's perspective. I for one am very proud of those with the courage and conviction to stand up for freedom against armed aggressors.

"Day and night for a week in early 1943, hundreds of unarmed German women did something that was unheard of in Nazi Germany.

They stood toe-to-toe with machine gun-wielding Gestapo agents and demanded the release of their Jewish husbands from Adolph Hitler's murderous grip. The men were locked up in the Jewish community center in the heart of Berlin, victims of Hitler's "final roundup" of German Jews.

The women's courage and passion prevailed: As thousands of other Berlin Jews were crammed into cattle cars and transported to Auschwitz, the Jews married to "Aryan" German women were set free."
Rosenstrasse Protest in Nazi Germany, Early 1943
 
does anybody else believe this will be a sea change for the ME? and not necessarily in our favor? of course, that's not the most important thing, but i wonder how any new leaders that might emerge will impact our foreign policy.

I believe that our response to this will potentially impact the longterm outcomes. If we stand up and say that people in the middle east deserve to have a voice in government and that they should control their own government, we are true to ourselves and our principles. If we continue to support dictators and tyrants against their own people, we will continue to look like the enemy that they may believe us to be.

We have a base in Bahrain. It provides major financial incentives to the country. When the dictator is using hired mercenaries against his own people, it seems hypocritical for us to be on his side, politically speaking. How can the people of Bahrain possibly view us as allies when we are complicit in their victimization?
 
George Bush should get the credit for this, taking out Iraq is finally paying off in people seeking liberty.
 
I believe that our response to this will potentially impact the longterm outcomes. If we stand up and say that people in the middle east deserve to have a voice in government and that they should control their own government, we are true to ourselves and our principles. If we continue to support dictators and tyrants against their own people, we will continue to look like the enemy that they may believe us to be.

We have a base in Bahrain. It provides major financial incentives to the country. When the dictator is using hired mercenaries against his own people, it seems hypocritical for us to be on his side, politically speaking. How can the people of Bahrain possibly view us as allies when we are complicit in their victimization?

agreed. it's pretty funny how it again comes down to the fact the U.S. foreign is very hypocritical. i would love to see some strong statements coming from the WH, followed be actual deeds.

i wonder how this is playing in Saudi Arabia?
 

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Bahrain. They have little to no industry so when they say they want jobs, one has to wonder what that really means, considering they (like most ME countries) import the majority of their workers as Third Country Nationals to do the menial jobs. Bahrain is seen in the ME as little more than a playground that the wealthy can escape to and enjoy 'strippers' and alcohol outside of Allahs watchful eye (I'm not slamming Islam...Im just sayin...thats the reality of the place). So...like Egypt...when you are protesting due to the lack of jobs and low pay...well...what is the plan to suddenly **** a few million jobs to make people happy?
 
George Bush should get the credit for this, taking out Iraq is finally paying off in people seeking liberty.

I don't see many people looking to Iraq as a shining example of what their country should be like, unless you enjoy secterian violence, corrupt government and regular beheadings...
 
agreed. it's pretty funny how it again comes down to the fact the U.S. foreign is very hypocritical. i would love to see some strong statements coming from the WH, followed be actual deeds.

i wonder how this is playing in Saudi Arabia?[/QUOTE]

Well for starters, some of the more wealthy Arabs probably have to change their weekend plans...maybe stay at home and abuse one of the Philipino workers instead of going to Bahrain and get some elbow.
 
agreed. it's pretty funny how it again comes down to the fact the U.S. foreign is very hypocritical. i would love to see some strong statements coming from the WH, followed be actual deeds.

i wonder how this is playing in Saudi Arabia?[/QUOTE]

Well for starters, some of the more wealthy Arabs probably have to change their weekend plans...maybe stay at home and abuse one of the Philipino workers instead of going to Bahrain and get some elbow.

i don't know...maybe the royal family is getting nervous.
 
i don't know...maybe the royal family is getting nervous.

Understatement of the century.

Only difference with Saudi Arabia, is their forces are much more effective, and will deal a deadly blow to whoever dares stand against the current state. I'd put money on the fact they're already tracking down potential Trouble Makers within their country.
 
Well for starters, some of the more wealthy Arabs probably have to change their weekend plans...maybe stay at home and abuse one of the Philipino workers instead of going to Bahrain and get some elbow.

You type this like you have experience with getting some elbow.
 
Understatement of the century.

Only difference with Saudi Arabia, is their forces are much more effective, and will deal a deadly blow to whoever dares stand against the current state. I'd put money on the fact they're already tracking down potential Trouble Makers within their country.

I wouldn't be surprised if our War on Terror dollars and technology are being put to that very use.
 
does anybody else believe this will be a sea change for the ME? and not necessarily in our favor? of course, that's not the most important thing, but i wonder how any new leaders that might emerge will impact our foreign policy.


Absolutely! But I am called a conspiracist on another thread for suggesting the like.


j-mac
 
I wouldn't be surprised if our War on Terror dollars and technology are being put to that very use.


You're probably correct in that, oh what a tangled web we weave, when we won't drill our own.


j-mac
 
You're probably correct in that, oh what a tangled web we weave, when we won't drill our own.


j-mac

Our replace our unhealthy addiction on foreign oil with homegrown technology and innovation. ;)
 
You're probably correct in that, oh what a tangled web we weave, when we won't drill our own.
j-mac

We haven't had that capacity since 1971. What's too bad is that we sat on our asses for forty years after we passed peak oil in this country.
 
Our replace our unhealthy addiction on foreign oil with homegrown technology and innovation. ;)


Great, do it. However, that technology is years, maybe decades off in the future. What now?


Catawba said:
We haven't had that capacity since 1971. What's too bad is that we sat on our asses for forty years after we passed peak oil in this country.


Peak oil is a myth. You can't say that we have peaked when you put off limits the known oil in the first place. It is a man made shortage.

j-mac
 
You type this like you have experience with getting some elbow.

Sitting in a strip club in Bahrain is one of the most sad and anti-climactic experiences you will EVER have...
 
Peak oil is a myth. You can't say that we have peaked when you put off limits the known oil in the first place. It is a man made shortage.

Thanks for your opinion. I think I'll go with the military, the world's geologists, and the oil companies on this one.
 
Thanks for your opinion. I think I'll go with the military, the world's geologists, and the oil companies on this one.


And I'll wait for real technology to take the place of fossil fuels, meanwhile, calling for the exploration, and drilling of our own resources. Only then will we see a shift in how the world approaches this dilemma.


j-mac
 
Sitting in a strip club in Bahrain is one of the most sad and anti-climactic experiences you will EVER have...

I'm pretty sure it's one of the most sad and anti-climactic experiences I will NEVER have. I've sat in strip clubs in Panama City and Pensacola. That was enough.
 
I'm pretty sure it's one of the most sad and anti-climactic experiences I will NEVER have. I've sat in strip clubs in Panama City and Pensacola. That was enough.

I was a bodyguard at the Palomino Club in Vegas...different strip club atmosphere there than say...the Crazy Horse Too...also in Vegas...

Picture a blonde, a redhead, or a philipino woman (but they preferred American women). Coming out in a dress, with gloves on...every once in a while hiking the dress up to get the slighest hint of garter. She walks around the room while men 'buy' her silk flowers and feather boas...which they gallantly hand to her and she carries or wears them...ADDING to the layers of clothing...the climax of the performance comes when she removes her gloves...slooooooooowly...seductively...maybe taking the fingertip of the glove in her teeth as she pulls it off...and then drops it...in some lucky guys lap. As she walks off stage she hands the silk flowers and boas to the sales girl who also collects the glove.

I think the most risque outfit I saw was a redheaded woman in a Daisy Duke outfit...

For the right price you can have the privelege of sitting across from one of the dancers and...now...calm down...hold her hand while you sip tea and make small talk. for what I can only assume is a MUCH greater price, you can be taken upstairs. I have to confess I have no idea what happens upstairs...but I know whatever happens it doesnt happen with the dancers. Im guessing TCN stunt doubles...
 
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