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Obama's FY 2012 Budget

Ockham said:
If you weren't contraditory, then you were ignorant or lying. Which one? I'll show it to you again...
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Again, you have it wrong, and your inability to explain it suggests you know you're wrong. I say medicare serves the most likely to need care. All those over 65 constitute a group that is most likely to need care. There is nothing contradictory in that, and a 5th grade could follow that. So either explain, or move on.
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, you have it wrong, and your inability to explain it suggests you know you're wrong.
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You're inability to understand what Medicare is and who it covers says about all I need to know. I'm just trying to educate you on either your mistake (contradiction), your lack of knowledge (ignorance). To suggest a lie suggests you understood it in the first place, so I take that off the table.

Not moving anywhere pal. Look at it again.


Boo Radley said:
You're knowledge is limit is appears. Medicare only serves the most likely to need care. Same with Medicad.
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Boo Radley said:
All Americans over 65. Over sixty five is a high risk group.
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Ockham said:
You're inability to understand what Medicare is and who it covers says about all I need to know. I'm just trying to educate you on either your mistake (contradiction), your lack of knowledge (ignorance). To suggest a lie suggests you understood it in the first place, so I take that off the table.

Not moving anywhere pal. Look at it again.
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You might as well go outside and argue with a fencepost. Boo NEVER admits when he is wrong, even though he's been proven wrong numerous times.

He just doesn't get what you're saying, which is kind of funny.
 
and thus we witness yet another once worthwhile thread descend into the twilight zone world of ALL ABOUT BOO

LOL!
 
Ockham said:
You're inability to understand what Medicare is and who it covers says about all I need to know. I'm just trying to educate you on either your mistake (contradiction), your lack of knowledge (ignorance). To suggest a lie suggests you understood it in the first place, so I take that off the table.

Not moving anywhere pal. Look at it again.
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To do that, you would have to explain. As you don't seem able to do so, I can't accept you complaint.

Now, let's look:

Medicare is a social insurance program administered by the United States government, providing health insurance coverage to people who are aged 65 and over.

Those over 65 are more likley to need care.

FASTSTATS - Older Persons Health

Now explain.
 
Gill said:
You might as well go outside and argue with a fencepost. Boo NEVER admits when he is wrong, even though he's been proven wrong numerous times.

He just doesn't get what you're saying, which is kind of funny.
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All any of you ahve to is explian. Either it's some sill thing ignoring the point, or he's completely wrong. Because he refuses to explain, I suggest he knows and is not willing to be shown his error.
 
"Most likely to need care". Simply strike this since it's controversial Boo, and replace it with the precise statement that you also posted "everyone over the age of 65".
You don't have to concede anything, you meant "everyone over 65", and you have nothing to back down from. Simply strike the ambiguous line and use the precise one. No harm no foul.
I mean, if you guys want ot get over that hump ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
To do that, you would have to explain. As you don't seem able to do so, I can't accept you complaint.

Now, let's look:

Medicare is a social insurance program administered by the United States government, providing health insurance coverage to people who are aged 65 and over.

Those over 65 are more likley to need care.

FASTSTATS - Older Persons Health

Now explain.
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Let me help you see your mistake... look again.

Boo Radley said:
You're knowledge is limit is appears. Medicare only serves the most likely to need care. Same with Medicad.
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Boo Radley said:
All Americans over 65. Over sixty five is a high risk group.
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Medicare serves everyone over 65 - so were you ignorant of this? A yes or no will do.
 
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Ockham said:
Let me help you see your mistake... look again.




Medicare serves everyone over 65 - so were you ignorant of this? A yes or no will do.
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As I've said they serve everyone over 65, where do you get I'm ignorant of this?
 
Boo Radley said:
As I've said they serve everyone over 65, where do you get I'm ignorant of this?
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So you were ignorant of that fact before it was pointed out to you. It only took 3 pages of your nonsense for that admission.

Thanks! :2wave:
 
Ockham said:
So you were ignorant of that fact before it was pointed out to you. It only took 3 pages of your nonsense for that admission.

Thanks! :2wave:
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No, I've known it all along. That's why I agreed, and point out over 65 is a group most likely to need care. You are once again mistaken.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, I've known it all along.
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Au contraire...

Boo Radley said:
You're knowledge is limit is appears. Medicare only serves the most likely to need care. Same with Medicad.
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Boo Radley said:
All Americans over 65. Over sixty five is a high risk group.
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Now you lie about being ignorant and blame someone else for your failure. You're words above.... you didn't know, and ignorant of medicare yet strangely defiant about said ignorance. You're a funny funny guy Boo.
 
If you change the phrasing a bit from "Medicare only serves the most likely to need care" to "Medicare often serves those likely to need care", it makes sense.
You guys are arguing over nothing.
Seniors aren't the most likely to need care. They are likely to need care. Not all of them need care.
 
iamitter said:
If you change the phrasing a bit from "Medicare only serves the most likely to need care" to "Medicare often serves those likely to need care", it makes sense.
You guys are arguing over nothing.
Seniors aren't the most likely to need care. They are likely to need care. Not all of them need care.
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Eligibility requires an age of 65 for Medicare. Boo didn't know that, but that's my fault you see.

Medicare.gov - Medicare Eligibility Tool (Eligibility Questions)
 
iamitter said:
If you change the phrasing a bit from "Medicare only serves the most likely to need care" to "Medicare often serves those likely to need care", it makes sense.
You guys are arguing over nothing.
Seniors aren't the most likely to need care. They are likely to need care. Not all of them need care.
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It is true we are arguing over nothing. And frankly, what you write is what I have been staying. I said it in two sentences, but together that is what I have said.
 
Ockham said:
Au contraire...




Now you lie about being ignorant and blame someone else for your failure. You're words above.... you didn't know, and ignorant of medicare yet strangely defiant about said ignorance. You're a funny funny guy Boo.
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Again nothing in my words says I didn't know. Your leap amzes me.
 
Boo Radley said:
Again nothing in my words says I didn't know. Your leap amzes me.
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Let me amaze you still... you may amaze yourself by recognizing the simplest of things like your own contradiction. Again... here it is.

Boo Radley said:
You're knowledge is limit is appears. Medicare only serves the most likely to need care. Same with Medicad.
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Boo Radley said:
All Americans over 65. Over sixty five is a high risk group.
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Ockham said:
Let me amaze you still... you may amaze yourself by recognizing the simplest of things like your own contradiction. Again... here it is.
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There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
I'm finshed with the silliness.
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so soon?

LOL!

meanwhile

obama's budget, released on monday, feb 14, valentines day, by all accounts PUNTS his responsibilities and kicks the can of entitlement reform down the road

obama's budget, released on valentines day, actually INCREASES the deficit over awful '11 by THIRTY PERCENT

obama's budget paints a totally unrealistic, pollyanna picture of our outyear projections, relying on rosy interest rates which can't be sustained and preposterously optimistic growth rates which can't be reached

White House Expects Federal Deficit to Spike to $1.65 Trillion - WSJ.com

the ny times a year ago predicted that service on the debt, MERE INTEREST ALONE, would soon approach A TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

News Headlines

the party in power pusillanimously passed on even PROPOSING a budget in terrible '10

Dems won

that's why we're still operating on appropriations

which obama's gonna have to VETO else swallow, thus SHUTTING DOWN the govt

over an issue as incumbent as the HIRING OF EXTRA IRS AGENTS to enforce THE MANDATE

substance, baby!

it's all in the LINKS
 
Boo Radley said:
There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness. :coffeepap
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One thing I know for sure Boo... is you won't get this medicare mistake wrong again for a very long time. I've taught you through forced repetition that medicare covers everyone at age 65. I'm glad I could help you and that you feel you now understand the difference.
 
Boo Radley said:
There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness. :coffeepap
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Meanwhile Boo, you also said that you think that Medicare does a pretty good job covering what they do.

The 2009 Social Security and Medicare Trustees Reports show the combined unfunded liability of these two programs has reached nearly $107 trillion in today's dollars! That is about seven times the size of the U.S. economy and 10 times the size of the outstanding national debt.

The unfunded liability is the difference between the benefits that have been promised to current and future retirees and what will be collected in dedicated taxes and Medicare premiums. Last year alone, this debt rose by $5 trillion. If no other reform is enacted, this funding gap can only be closed in future years by substantial tax increases, large benefit cuts or both.

Social Security and Medicare Projections: 2009 | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA
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You call running up hundreds of Trillions in promised debt doing a good job?


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
You call running up hundreds of Trillions in promised debt doing a good job?


j-mac
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I would think yes, since running up yet more debt requires (in Boo's mind) more government regulation, spending, control and intervention which is the ultimate goal right?
 
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